samba - Apr 2016 - Best Pratice for installing samba package in production environment

Dear Rowland,

thank you for your mail and the details provided.

In that case, i suppose that it will be possible for someone that initially
install the sernet 4.2.X version, to receive  the earlier updates  of
samba4 after subcription.

I mean that passing to the earlier version of samba sernet package without
migrating active directory to another server.

Thank you again one more time.

Regards







On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Rowland penny <rpenny at samba.org>
wrote:
> On 19/04/16 16:21, Jules Houantonon wrote:
>
>> Hello Helmut,
>>
>> thank you for your feedback.
>>
>> I think that i am not making my self  clear enough.
>>
>> Independant of the distribution, is it recommended to install Samba4
tar
>> ball version in a production environment, or sernet package ?
>>
>> I know that with sernet you can have  benefit of support, so it may be
an
>> advantage.
>>
>> But what about if i choose to install code source version downloaded
from
>> samba.org ?
>>
>> Would it be recommended ?
>>
>> Thank you for your help
>>
>>
>>
> What version of Samba is used and where you get it from, is down to the
> sysadmin. You can use your distros packages, Sernet packages or compile
> Samba yourself. If you go with your distros packages, this usually means
> that they older versions, Sernet supply 4.2.x versions free of charge, but
> can also supply 4.3.x and soon 4.4.2 packages, but these are only available
> with a subscription.
> If you decide to download a tarball from Samba and compile it yourself,
> you must also realise that there is no readily available support, you can
> do what you already have done, ask questions here, or find local support if
> this is a must.
> One of the benefits of compiling Samba yourself is you can use the latest
> version and as you will be setting up a new domain,  you can just use all
> the configure defaults, this means in future, it will be as easy to update
> as a distro package.
>
> So, to put it in a nutshell, the best practise is whatever is the best for
> you.
>
> Rowland
>
>
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On 19/04/16 18:07, Jules Houantonon wrote:
> Dear Rowland,
>
> thank you for your mail and the details provided.
>
> In that case, i suppose that it will be possible for someone that 
> initially install the sernet 4.2.X version, to receive  the earlier 
> updates  of samba4 after subcription.
You only need a Sernet subscription to obtain the Sernet Samba packages 
 >= 4.3.x. I suppose if you did install the latest free 4.2.x package, 
you could upgrade to Sernet 4.3.x and up, but you would need to obtain a 
Sernet subscription, you would also need to contact Sernet to confirm this.
>
> I mean that passing to the earlier version of samba sernet package 
> without migrating active directory to another server.
Which ever way you install Samba as an AD DC, you should be able to 
upgrade Samba or change distro. You could do this by installing later 
packages on the DC, or by installing Samba on another DC. The only real 
problem comes when you try to move from a distros or Sernet packages to 
compiling Samba yourself, for by default 'configure' will put everything
in /usr/local/samba

Rowland
>
> Thank you again one more time.
>
> Regards
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

And for lazy people - as me - who started with Sernet's packages and then
switched to compiled version there is an option from ./configure script
called "--enable-fhd" which is meant to install Samba DB and stuffs
into
/var/lib/samba as with Sernet's packages.
>From configure's help:
    --enable-fhs
            Use FHS-compliant paths (default no)
            You should consider using this together with:
            --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var

So the configure line become:
./configure --enable-fhs --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc
--localstatedir=/var + Your own options.

This is better used when creating a package as stuffs are installed
directly inside the system (/usr, /var...) and so clean up if harder to
perform than when installing into dedicated directory. With a package your
distribution installer will perform that clean up for you when removing the
package or changing it.

2016-04-19 19:58 GMT+02:00 Rowland penny <rpenny at samba.org>:
> On 19/04/16 18:07, Jules Houantonon wrote:
>
>> Dear Rowland,
>>
>> thank you for your mail and the details provided.
>>
>> In that case, i suppose that it will be possible for someone that
>> initially install the sernet 4.2.X version, to receive  the earlier
>> updates  of samba4 after subcription.
>>
>
> You only need a Sernet subscription to obtain the Sernet Samba packages
>> 4.3.x. I suppose if you did install the latest free 4.2.x package, you
> could upgrade to Sernet 4.3.x and up, but you would need to obtain a Sernet
> subscription, you would also need to contact Sernet to confirm this.
>
>
>> I mean that passing to the earlier version of samba sernet package
>> without migrating active directory to another server.
>>
>
> Which ever way you install Samba as an AD DC, you should be able to
> upgrade Samba or change distro. You could do this by installing later
> packages on the DC, or by installing Samba on another DC. The only real
> problem comes when you try to move from a distros or Sernet packages to
> compiling Samba yourself, for by default 'configure' will put
everything in
> /usr/local/samba
>
> Rowland
>
>
>> Thank you again one more time.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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