samba - Dec 2015 - domain authentication issue after rebooting Debian Jessie - need to restart samba each time

> On Dec 11, 2015, at 12:27 PM, Rowland penny <rpenny at samba.org>
wrote:
> 
>> On 11/12/15 16:52, gimili wrote:
>> I followed the instructions here:
https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Setup_a_Samba_Active_Directory_Domain_Controller.'
>> 
>> Everything works find except when I reboot I have to restart samba or I
added a pause and then restart to /etc/rc.local otherwise the windows machines
can't authenticate.
>> 
>> I googled this problem but have not been able to figure out the
solution.
>> 
>> My OS is debian Jessie.
>> 
>> Many thanks for any help/advice.
>> 
> 
> OK, I understand that you followed the wiki and you are using debian
jessie, but just how did you install Samba, from distro packages or Sernet, or
self compiled ?
> 
> Rowland
From the distro packages.

On 12/12/15 15:04, Gimili wrote:
>
>> On Dec 11, 2015, at 12:27 PM, Rowland penny <rpenny at samba.org>
wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/12/15 16:52, gimili wrote:
>>> I followed the instructions here:
https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Setup_a_Samba_Active_Directory_Domain_Controller.'
>>>
>>> Everything works find except when I reboot I have to restart samba
or I added a pause and then restart to /etc/rc.local otherwise the windows
machines can't authenticate.
>>>
>>> I googled this problem but have not been able to figure out the
solution.
>>>
>>> My OS is debian Jessie.
>>>
>>> Many thanks for any help/advice.
>>>
>> OK, I understand that you followed the wiki and you are using debian
jessie, but just how did you install Samba, from distro packages or Sernet, or
self compiled ?
>>
>> Rowland
>  From the distro packages.
OK, this means that you are running 4.1.17 and I think this is what is 
happening:

When you install the samba package on jessie it installs the following 
files in /etc/init.d

nmbd
samba
samba-ad-dc
smbd

It then runs 'update-rc.d xxxx defaults' and 'invoke-rc.d xxxx
start'
where 'xxxx' is one of the filenames above, it does this for all the 4 
files.

You then setup Samba as an active directory controller and so you only 
need the 'samba-ad-dc' init file, this will start smbd. You do not need 
the others, but they will still try to start at boot, so what I suggest 
you do (and what I did) is to remove the ones you do not need.

update-rc.d -f nmbd remove
update-rc.d -f smbd remove
update-rc.d -f samba remove

You should check if the winbind package is installed, if it is, you 
should also stop this being started at boot.

Reboot the DC, it should now just start the samba deamon via 
/etc/init.d/samba-ad-dc, this will then start smbd.

Hopefully this should fix your problem, if it does, you can then remove 
the unwanted init files:

rm -f /etc/init.d/ nmbd
rm -f /etc/init.d/ smbd
rm -f /etc/init.d/ samba

Note, if do this, you do it at your risk, it shouldn't damage anything 
(well it didn't for me), you should also backup everything just in case.

Rowland

On 12/12/2015 11:19 AM, Rowland penny wrote:
> On 12/12/15 15:04, Gimili wrote:
>>
>>> On Dec 11, 2015, at 12:27 PM, Rowland penny <rpenny at
samba.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 11/12/15 16:52, gimili wrote:
>>>> I followed the instructions here: 
>>>>
https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Setup_a_Samba_Active_Directory_Domain_Controller.'
>>>>
>>>> Everything works find except when I reboot I have to restart
samba
>>>> or I added a pause and then restart to /etc/rc.local otherwise
the
>>>> windows machines can't authenticate.
>>>>
>>>> I googled this problem but have not been able to figure out the
>>>> solution.
>>>>
>>>> My OS is debian Jessie.
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks for any help/advice.
>>>>
>>> OK, I understand that you followed the wiki and you are using
debian
>>> jessie, but just how did you install Samba, from distro packages or
>>> Sernet, or self compiled ?
>>>
>>> Rowland
>>  From the distro packages.
>
> OK, this means that you are running 4.1.17 and I think this is what is 
> happening:
>
> When you install the samba package on jessie it installs the following 
> files in /etc/init.d
>
> nmbd
> samba
> samba-ad-dc
> smbd
>
> It then runs 'update-rc.d xxxx defaults' and 'invoke-rc.d xxxx
start'
> where 'xxxx' is one of the filenames above, it does this for all
the 4
> files.
>
> You then setup Samba as an active directory controller and so you only 
> need the 'samba-ad-dc' init file, this will start smbd. You do not 
> need the others, but they will still try to start at boot, so what I 
> suggest you do (and what I did) is to remove the ones you do not need.
>
> update-rc.d -f nmbd remove
> update-rc.d -f smbd remove
> update-rc.d -f samba remove
>
> You should check if the winbind package is installed, if it is, you 
> should also stop this being started at boot.
>
> Reboot the DC, it should now just start the samba deamon via 
> /etc/init.d/samba-ad-dc, this will then start smbd.
>
> Hopefully this should fix your problem, if it does, you can then 
> remove the unwanted init files:
>
> rm -f /etc/init.d/ nmbd
> rm -f /etc/init.d/ smbd
> rm -f /etc/init.d/ samba
>
> Note, if do this, you do it at your risk, it shouldn't damage anything 
> (well it didn't for me), you should also backup everything just in
case.
>
> Rowland
>
Thank you kindly for the advice.  I gave it a whirl and still no luck on 
reboot.  I now have to manually start /etc/init.d/samba-ad-dc.  Any 
other suggestions please and thanks.
-- 
gimili

Hai, 

If not, well, very stange, i have about 7 Jessie's here with samba and 
i dont have any problems.
I think systemd is blocking your startup of samba due to multple errors on
startups previously.

Few questions? 

Do you have samba with shares over nfs? 
If so, create te following folder : 
/etc/systemd/system/nfs-common.service.d/ 

Add the following file with content to the file : remote-fs-pre.conf
[Unit]
Before=remote-fs-pre.target
Wants=remote-fs-pre.target


What is the output of ? 
systemctl status samba-ad-dc 

if its masked..  then type :'
systemctl unmask samba-ad-dc
and 
systemctl restart samba-ad-dc

reboot and see if its all started. 



Greetz, 

Louis



> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: samba [mailto:samba-bounces at lists.samba.org] Namens gimili
> Verzonden: dinsdag 15 december 2015 16:32
> Aan: Rowland penny
> CC: samba at lists.samba.org
> Onderwerp: Re: [Samba] domain authentication issue after rebooting Debian
> Jessie - need to restart samba each time
> 
> On 12/12/2015 11:19 AM, Rowland penny wrote:
> > On 12/12/15 15:04, Gimili wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Dec 11, 2015, at 12:27 PM, Rowland penny <rpenny at
samba.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 11/12/15 16:52, gimili wrote:
> >>>> I followed the instructions here:
> >>>>
> https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Setup_a_Samba_Active_Directory_Domain_Con
> troller.'
> >>>>
> >>>> Everything works find except when I reboot I have to
restart samba
> >>>> or I added a pause and then restart to /etc/rc.local
otherwise the
> >>>> windows machines can't authenticate.
> >>>>
> >>>> I googled this problem but have not been able to figure
out the
> >>>> solution.
> >>>>
> >>>> My OS is debian Jessie.
> >>>>
> >>>> Many thanks for any help/advice.
> >>>>
> >>> OK, I understand that you followed the wiki and you are using
debian
> >>> jessie, but just how did you install Samba, from distro
packages or
> >>> Sernet, or self compiled ?
> >>>
> >>> Rowland
> >>  From the distro packages.
> >
> > OK, this means that you are running 4.1.17 and I think this is what is
> > happening:
> >
> > When you install the samba package on jessie it installs the following
> > files in /etc/init.d
> >
> > nmbd
> > samba
> > samba-ad-dc
> > smbd
> >
> > It then runs 'update-rc.d xxxx defaults' and 'invoke-rc.d
xxxx start'
> > where 'xxxx' is one of the filenames above, it does this for
all the 4
> > files.
> >
> > You then setup Samba as an active directory controller and so you only
> > need the 'samba-ad-dc' init file, this will start smbd. You do
not
> > need the others, but they will still try to start at boot, so what I
> > suggest you do (and what I did) is to remove the ones you do not need.
> >
> > update-rc.d -f nmbd remove
> > update-rc.d -f smbd remove
> > update-rc.d -f samba remove
> >
> > You should check if the winbind package is installed, if it is, you
> > should also stop this being started at boot.
> >
> > Reboot the DC, it should now just start the samba deamon via
> > /etc/init.d/samba-ad-dc, this will then start smbd.
> >
> > Hopefully this should fix your problem, if it does, you can then
> > remove the unwanted init files:
> >
> > rm -f /etc/init.d/ nmbd
> > rm -f /etc/init.d/ smbd
> > rm -f /etc/init.d/ samba
> >
> > Note, if do this, you do it at your risk, it shouldn't damage
anything
> > (well it didn't for me), you should also backup everything just in
case.
> >
> > Rowland
> >
> Thank you kindly for the advice.  I gave it a whirl and still no luck on
> reboot.  I now have to manually start /etc/init.d/samba-ad-dc.  Any
> other suggestions please and thanks.
> --
> gimili
> 
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