Hi there, I almot exlusively use samba for printing in a semi large scale (>2.000 windows hosts & >500 printers). I have been running 3.0.20 for a long time and was quite happy with it. Unfortunately my windows fellows have now updated to AD 2008 R2 and I experienced some immediate problems with encryptions types so I updated to 3.4.5 which is not really working for me. I see a lot of connection rests and also the load is significantly higher than before, looks a bit like a denial of service attack ;) Also the shares don't show up constantly in the domain but disappear from time to time. My clients are 32bit windowsxp domain members and to make things a bit more complicated they received a MS security update at the same time which mainly concerns SMB (MS10-06 SMB Update). Are there any advices or experiences, I'm really in need ? :( cheers ~christoph PS: Of couse I am also waiting for a samba based solution for windows 7 64 bit printing ;) -- /* Christoph Beyer | Office: Building 2b / 23 *\ * DESY | Phone: 040-8998-2317 * * - IT - | Fax: 040-8998-4060 * \* 22603 Hamburg | http://www.desy.de */
Hi Robert, OK at least I am not all alone ;) To be honest I avoided cups so far and used lprng with good results. Have to use cups now though for my linux clients they just need the cups libraries for all kind of stuff. Did you find any way to avoid massive drop down lists on client applications with hundreds of printers in it ? I established 6 or 8 cups servers now just to keep the list of printers on the client manageable :( Another question, does the complete driver transfer to the client including presets work when you use cups for windows ? Thanks a lot for your support !!!! cheers christoph On Thu, 18 Feb 2010, Robert Freeman-Day wrote:> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > Jeremy Allison wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 12:02:22PM -0700, Jack Downes wrote: > > > Similar situation here, 484 printers at current count, 2120 users > > > (hospital), and we've been pretty happy with the Samba/CUPS solution. > > > However, recently, too many issues with Samba an printing (3.4.5, > > > debian), so we've gotten rid of it, still use it for file shares and > > > such. Anyway, we are a straight to cups setup here now. several > > > scripts are used by us with Desktop authority to "convert" the old samba > > > printers to cups printers as the user logs in. It's working pretty good > > > actually, and our load on the printserver is always around .07... it's > > > flat amazing. For printing, I'd suggest looking at IPP - from windows > > > 2k on, MS supports it client side, so it's pretty nice. > > > > > > We are actually working on a system that will allow printer grouping - > > > eg, load a group of printers to a machine based on it's location or > > > presumed location. And have printers load to the system as a > > > system-wide printer instead of a personal printer - with all > > > driver/drawer settings correct. Yes, this is doable with samba easily, > > > but cups we've been having to do a bit of this on our side. Working > > > pretty good. > > > > Guenther and Metze are working on the print spool code for 3.5.0. > > > > Hopefully we'll have a solution for you soon. Right now the > > best Samba release for printing is 3.3.10. > > > > Jeremy. > Jeremy, > > Does the team have recommended versions of samba to use generally in an > AD 2008 R2 environment? We are running into many ntlmv2 issues similar > to a bug reported to RedHat, but with more then just the 3.0.x code (of > which I know is no longer supported upstream, but RH supports): > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=561325 > > I was unable to pin down a specific release/patch that fixed the > problem, but it seems to work better with 3.4.5. Some guidance would be > very helpful. In the meantime, I am going to be adding my two cents on > the above bug report. > > Thanks, > > Robert > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > > iEYEARECAAYFAkt9k3EACgkQup357T5MfTYbiwCfdkWW4UmdikpRTmf/Z7nTSfMK > G2EAoNLv9NznIsqwDFr471/3Zn4V5PCV > =T/OO > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > -- > To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the > instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba >best regards ~ christoph -- /* Christoph Beyer | Office: Building 2b / 23 *\ * DESY | Phone: 040-8998-2317 * * - IT - | Fax: 040-8998-4060 * \* 22603 Hamburg | http://www.desy.de */
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 07:53:00PM +0100, christoph.beyer at desy.de wrote:> Hi there, > > I almot exlusively use samba for printing in a semi large scale > (>2.000 windows hosts & >500 printers). I have been running 3.0.20 > for a long time and was quite happy with it. > > Unfortunately my windows fellows have now updated to AD 2008 R2 and > I experienced some immediate problems with encryptions types so I > updated to 3.4.5 which is not really working for me. > > I see a lot of connection rests and also the load is significantly > higher than before, looks a bit like a denial of service attack ;) > Also the shares don't show up constantly in the domain but disappear > from time to time. > > My clients are 32bit windowsxp domain members and to make things a > bit more complicated they received a MS security update at the same > time which mainly concerns SMB (MS10-06 SMB Update). > > Are there any advices or experiences, I'm really in need ? :( > > > cheers > ~christoph > > PS: Of couse I am also waiting for a samba based solution for > windows 7 64 bit printing ;)Please try 3.5.0rc3, which should have working Windows 7 64-bit printing. Jeremy.
Hi Jeremy, thanks for the advice will keep that in mind for the near future :) Do you have any ideas about my other problem (slow printing with AD 2008 R2 - 3.3.10) is 3.5.0rc3 also a 'maybe' solution for that ? cheers christoph On Sun, 21 Feb 2010, Jeremy Allison wrote:> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 07:53:00PM +0100, christoph.beyer at desy.de wrote: > > Hi there, > > > > I almot exlusively use samba for printing in a semi large scale > > (>2.000 windows hosts & >500 printers). I have been running 3.0.20 > > for a long time and was quite happy with it. > > > > Unfortunately my windows fellows have now updated to AD 2008 R2 and > > I experienced some immediate problems with encryptions types so I > > updated to 3.4.5 which is not really working for me. > > > > I see a lot of connection rests and also the load is significantly > > higher than before, looks a bit like a denial of service attack ;) > > Also the shares don't show up constantly in the domain but disappear > > from time to time. > > > > My clients are 32bit windowsxp domain members and to make things a > > bit more complicated they received a MS security update at the same > > time which mainly concerns SMB (MS10-06 SMB Update). > > > > Are there any advices or experiences, I'm really in need ? :( > > > > > > cheers > > ~ christoph > > > > PS: Of couse I am also waiting for a samba based solution for > > windows 7 64 bit printing ;) > > Please try 3.5.0rc3, which should have working Windows 7 64-bit > printing. > > Jeremy. >best regards ~ christoph -- /* Christoph Beyer | Office: Building 2b / 23 *\ * DESY | Phone: 040-8998-2317 * * - IT - | Fax: 040-8998-4060 * \* 22603 Hamburg | http://www.desy.de */