Sorry for the direct approach Am quite taken with the Winbind stuff. I spend most of my time working in mixed SG/NT sites .... with NT being the major backbone of the network. Winbind on the SGs would solve a lot of problems for me ... copying passwd files from machine to machine for one :-) Yes ... I know .. fraught with danger and yes, have had to reach for the boot CDs a couple of times :-) NIS .... don't ask :-) ... most of the people left in charge, on site, REALLY struggle with NIS. THe last time I rolled out NIS it lasted until I drove out of the carpark. Hence, Winbind seems just the ticket ... Q. How far away is the IRIX version ??? Regards Peter de Groot -- ______________________________________________________________ PDG Technical Services Pty Ltd ABN 25077936933 Peter de Groot P.O. Box 10349 08) 90916817 Kalgoorlie 6430 pdgtech@kalnet.com.au Western Australia ______________________________________________________________