At 12:19 PM 10/6/2000 +0100, you wrote:>Cass Surek wrote:
> >
> > Hello guys,
> >
> > We?ve used Novell here and there was a cool thing about it that
wouldn?t
> > really delete a file when a user deleted that file. It?d be stored in
a
> > spool directory and then we?d be able to recover it in case it was
deleted
> > by mistake by the user.
>
>Samba doesn't actually do the deletion, it just uses the system unlink()
>call. Unix, unlike Netware, takes the attitude that if you ask it to
>delete a file, that's because you don't want the file. It ain't
coming
>back...... The filesystems on most Unices are such that your chances of
>recovering data from deleted files are virtually nil. Use a tape
>backup....
Hey Ya'll, sorry about the blank reply a few minutes ago.
What I have to offer here about file-delete protection is not really a samba
thing (as far as I know, there is no good samba solution for this). But
some of your samba admins must have pure UNIX users. This is for them.
For a little protection for my users (all of whom I set up with the CShell), I
put some code into their .cshrc file to do what I call "safe_rm".
To be fair, I can't take full credit for the idea. I got the idea from my
time at the
University of Tennessee when I was completing my MS degree. I think
a guy named David Mutchler came up with the original idea, but I've
made so many changes to it over time I don't know if he'd recognize it
in its current form.
That said (wishing to give Dave his due)...
1 - I put a script in the user's ~/bin directories called
"safe_rm" (I have
attached
that script).
2 - I plant some code in their .cshrc file. That code is attached as
"cshrc.safe_rm".
Note: in this code, "rm" is aliased to the "safe_rm" script.
I have also
aliased "RM"
to the real /bin/rm for those who are absolutely sure that they want to
blow something
away right now.
3 - I plant the following code in their .logout file.
if ( $SAFERM == on ) then
if ( -d $SAFERMDIR ) then
setenv SAFERM on
echo " "
echo removing files from $SAFERMDIR
echo " "
/usr/bin/rm -R $SAFERMDIR
mkdir $SAFERMDIR
chmod 700 $SAFERMDIR
endif
This last piece clears the "safe_rm" deleted files for their
current session when they log out (I don't have the disk space to
protect them forever). But this could be altered to delete
based on date stamp (holding deleted files for a longer time),
or it could be ignored completely, never clearing the
deleted files (which, in my opinion, would not be a very good
idea).
Jay
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Jay Thompson
Support Systems Analyst, Sr.
Northern Arizona University
College of Ecosystem Science and Management
J.Thompson@NAU.EDU
(520) 523-8033