To be useful for us non-subscribers, a mailing list archive web page should: - specify no background color or use a _dark_ brackground color to make it easier on the eyes - sort messages/threads most-recent _FIRST_ - include certain mail headers: - From - To - CC - Subject - Date - Message-ID <------- This one is a MUST - if at all possible include a mail-to-me button on each message - handle end-of-month events smoothly (Samba's do; you'd be surprised at the list archives which don't close the current month archive until half the next month has passed) I mean, why subscribe to lists?! For each list I must keep around unsubscription info, I must setup up procmail filters, mutt list aliases, etc, etc... I have to deal with lists which are badly setup and have stale subscriber lists which cause me to get bounces when I post. And there's lists which sometimes just unsubscribe me (the Samba lists did that once, which was the drop that made me switch to following the lists through the archives). AND, the place I work at changes its domain name every 18 months, so I have to re-subscribe to must-subscribe-to-post lists. Get real. Give us decent mailing list archives. Please. In a whining mood today, Nico --