tridge - hey man - i rememebr talkign to you about tdb - i (finally) decided to check it out and notice it's licence is GPL instead of LGPL or BSD etc. - so that means i can't link to it without my programs becoming all GPL (from bsd) - so i'm asking - are you looking at a license change for tdb? or is gpl here to stay? -- --------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------------- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) raster@rasterman.com raster@valinux.com raster@enlightenment.org raster@linux.com raster@zip.com.au