FAUCONNET Alain
1999-Mar-08 10:43 UTC
Not Related: Ban Microsoft Outlook Express MUA from this list?
Hello, I think that all the problems we see are a conjunction of two factors : 1- so-called "modern" MUAs tend to overuse MIME attachements, sometimes in very useless ways (such as HTML versions of the plain text, quotations, and all kind of "cards"). Most of the time, they can be configured to keep a lower profile. Netscape Communicator 4.5, for instance, can be set up to only send pure ASCII and quote mails replied to inline the good old way (">" prefix). Unfortunately the wise guys at Netscape did not find it fit to set those as defaults. 2- the list processor program used for Samba lists is not particularily clever in the handling of headers. Actually it's even very dumb. I know, we use the same exact one for our internal e-mail lists. More specifically, it does not handle AT ALL headers with continuation lines. He eats up all but the first line, causing incomplete multipart mails (usually the "boundary" parameters misses). So what ? unless the nice people who manage those lists can find the time to switch to a better list processor like Majordomo, all we can do is asking people : - not to send any multipart mails : * do copy/paste logs or config files inline, not as attachements * disable any HTML evil (I hope Outlook can do that, I don't use it) * avoid non-ASCII characters (many MUA would convert them to quoted-printable or even worse base64 -- the HP CDE mailer does) - disable vcards an all that nonsense - disable auto attachement of PGP signatures too, this really confuses things in digests for people reading them with elm Regards, -- Alain Fauconnet