Heh guys. I've noted a number of patches coming through here, and I've been watching myself trying to learn Samba well enough to write my own patches, and I recently had a thought: Thinking back to the "bad old days" of source licenses for mainframe OS's, there are alot of people who remember support being a nightmare for installations that had custom modifications of the source tree. I've been thinking that Open Source, which for a long time has had a reputation for being difficult to find support for, may actually combine the usefulness of site-required patches with the necessity of wide support for those patches. Whereas there is no way for the support organization to be familiar with the closed-source patches of old, open source patches can and often may work there way into the official tree. Once they're in the official tree, it is much easier for support organizations to deal with critical faults rather than just say "uninstall your custom build". In other words, open source means you can modify an app to suit your tastes and still have other people around to save you if it fails. This contrasts to true closed source, where the only way to get a modification is to beg the supplier, or source licenses, where you are on your own if your patch fails. Comments? We should probably keep this in private email, since it's rather off topic, but if there's interest I'll shove a writeup over at http://doxpara.netpedia.net . Yours Truly, Dan Kaminsky DoxPara Research -- If a vacuum cleaner doesn't suck, does it suck?