Hi all I have recently setup my RedHat 5.1 with Samba 1.9.18p10-51 from the mirror site I even tried the samba-1.9.18p10-51.1.src.rpm and had a look in the Makefile and it is using PAM I got it all working fine fixed the registry and all and its all going great guns without encryption -setup the smbpasswd -set update encrypted = yes and that updated smbpasswd ok as its supposed to -bought the Samba Book and read that. -did the diagnosis tests commented out update encryption uncommented encrypt passwords = yes login via another linux box and it works fine every thing works fine to here after several reboots of all systems I then removed the "EnablePlainTextPassword"=dword:00000001 and it stoped I put it back and it works again encrypt passwords is defineltly set is this a 98 problem or have I missed something thanks heaps Greg