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2014-Dec-18 11:36 UTC

Aw: Re: Re: rsync not copy all information for font file

Ram,
? Look inside the .AppleDouble folder and tou will find the resource forks that
hold the main part of the font data.

? Not a 'problem' with netatalk, but just how netatalk works so that it
can represent apple files on non-apple filesystems.

? ?If you confirm the data all matches, this will prove rsync is working
properly.

? Bryan

-------- Original message --------
From: Ram Ballu <ram at edom.it> 
Date:18/12/2014  22:11  (GMT+10:00) 
To: devzero at web.de,rsync <rsync at lists.samba.org> 
Subject: Re: Aw: Re:  Re: rsync not copy all information for font file 

ls -la Source folder
----------------------------********----------------------------------
root at ---:/BKP_SC//FONT# ls -la
totale 2808
drwxr-sr-x 1 nobody 65533 ? ?944 giu 30 ?2010 .
drwxr-sr-x 1 nobody 65533 ? 1440 mar 18 ?2014 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody 65533 ?12292 apr 20 ?2012 :2eDS_Store
drwxr-sr-x 1 nobody 65533 ? ?880 giu 30 ?2010 .AppleDouble
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody 65533 ? ? ?0 mar ?5 ?2010 Davys Dingbats 1
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody 65533 ? ? ?0 mar ?5 ?2010 Davys Dingbats 2
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody 65533 ? ? ?0 mar 22 ?2010 Graeca.fam
drwxr-sr-x 1 nobody 65533 ? ?144 mar 26 ?2010 Greca Opentype
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody 65533 ? ? ?0 lug 28 ?2007 L Decoration Pi 1
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody 65533 ? ? ?0 ago 18 ?2006 LDecPiOne
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody 65533 ? ? ?0 lug 28 ?2007 MathematicalPi 3
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody 65533 ? ? ?0 ago 18 ?2006 MathePiThr
drwxr-sr-x 1 nobody 65533 ? ?536 apr 23 ?2010 Method
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody 65533 279376 lug 31 ?2009 MinionPro-BoldCnIt.otf
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody 65533 236528 lug 31 ?2009 MinionPro-BoldCn.otf
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody 65533 280820 lug 31 ?2009 MinionPro-BoldIt.otf
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody 65533 234868 lug 31 ?2009 MinionPro-Bold.otf
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody 65533 280924 lug 31 ?2009 MinionPro-It.otf
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody 65533 279836 lug 31 ?2009 MinionPro-MediumIt.otf
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody 65533 236940 lug 31 ?2009 MinionPro-Medium.otf
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody 65533 235436 lug 31 ?2009 MinionPro-Regular.otf
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody 65533 281364 lug 31 ?2009 MinionPro-SemiboldIt.otf
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody 65533 237800 lug 31 ?2009 MinionPro-Semibold.otf
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody 65533 ? ? ?0 ago 18 ?2006 Monotype Sorts
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody 65533 ? ? ?0 ago 18 ?2006 Rapha
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody 65533 ? ? ?0 lug 28 ?2007 Raphael
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody 65533 ?75020 dic 25 ?2005 Symbol.dfont
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody 65533 154081 dic 25 ?2005 ZapfDingbats.dfont
----------------------********------------------------------

ls -la destination folder
--------------------**************-----------------------
root at ---:/BKP_DES# ls -la
totale 2808
drwxr-sr-x ?1 nobody 65533 ? ?952 giu 30 ?2010 .
drwxr-xr-x 25 root ? root ? ?4096 dic 12 06:36 ..
-rw-r--r-- ?1 nobody 65533 ?12292 apr 20 ?2012 :2eDS_Store
drwxr-sr-x ?1 nobody 65533 ? ?884 giu 30 ?2010 .AppleDouble
-rw-r--r-- ?1 nobody 65533 ? ? ?0 mar ?5 ?2010 Davys Dingbats 1
-rw-r--r-- ?1 nobody 65533 ? ? ?0 mar ?5 ?2010 Davys Dingbats 2
-rw-r--r-- ?1 nobody 65533 ? ? ?0 mar 22 ?2010 Graeca.fam
drwxr-sr-x ?1 nobody 65533 ? ?170 mar 26 ?2010 Greca Opentype
-rw-r--r-- ?1 nobody 65533 ? ? ?0 lug 28 ?2007 L Decoration Pi 1
-rw-r--r-- ?1 nobody 65533 ? ? ?0 ago 18 ?2006 LDecPiOne
-rw-r--r-- ?1 nobody 65533 ? ? ?0 lug 28 ?2007 MathematicalPi 3
-rw-r--r-- ?1 nobody 65533 ? ? ?0 ago 18 ?2006 MathePiThr
drwxr-sr-x ?1 nobody 65533 ? ?612 apr 23 ?2010 Method
-rw-r--r-- ?1 nobody 65533 279376 lug 31 ?2009 MinionPro-BoldCnIt.otf
-rw-r--r-- ?1 nobody 65533 236528 lug 31 ?2009 MinionPro-BoldCn.otf
-rw-r--r-- ?1 nobody 65533 280820 lug 31 ?2009 MinionPro-BoldIt.otf
-rw-r--r-- ?1 nobody 65533 234868 lug 31 ?2009 MinionPro-Bold.otf
-rw-r--r-- ?1 nobody 65533 280924 lug 31 ?2009 MinionPro-It.otf
-rw-r--r-- ?1 nobody 65533 279836 lug 31 ?2009 MinionPro-MediumIt.otf
-rw-r--r-- ?1 nobody 65533 236940 lug 31 ?2009 MinionPro-Medium.otf
-rw-r--r-- ?1 nobody 65533 235436 lug 31 ?2009 MinionPro-Regular.otf
-rw-r--r-- ?1 nobody 65533 281364 lug 31 ?2009 MinionPro-SemiboldIt.otf
-rw-r--r-- ?1 nobody 65533 237800 lug 31 ?2009 MinionPro-Semibold.otf
-rw-r--r-- ?1 nobody 65533 ? ? ?0 ago 18 ?2006 Monotype Sorts
-rw-r--r-- ?1 nobody 65533 ? ? ?0 ago 18 ?2006 Rapha
-rw-r--r-- ?1 nobody 65533 ? ? ?0 lug 28 ?2007 Raphael
-rw-r--r-- ?1 nobody 65533 ?75020 dic 25 ?2005 Symbol.dfont
-rw-r--r-- ?1 nobody 65533 154081 dic 25 ?2005 ZapfDingbats.dfont
-------------------------***********----------------------------

hmmmmm never think about this, it is 0 kb also on source from command line of my
ubuntu server?
:-(
I always thought problem relating to rsync but rsync is doing well job exactly
copy what it found in source to destination.

Just to check i connect to shared folder of my ubuntu server that i use for job
and enter from terminal (command line of mac os X) and view ls -la for same
folder, it also show what i get from linux command line. Here i copy these
information as well

Mac-Pro-di-Ram:FONT MacPro$ ls -la
total 7008
drwxr-xr-x@ 27 MacPro ?staff ? ? 874 30 Giu ?2010 .
drwxr-xr-x@ 36 MacPro ?staff ? ?1180 18 Mar ?2014 ..
-rwxr-xr-x@ ?1 MacPro ?staff ? 12292 20 Apr ?2012 .DS_Store
-rwxr-xr-x@ ?1 MacPro ?staff ? ? ? 0 ?5 Mar ?2010 Davys Dingbats 1
-rwxr-xr-x@ ?1 MacPro ?staff ? ? ? 0 ?5 Mar ?2010 Davys Dingbats 2
-rwxr-xr-x@ ?1 MacPro ?staff ? ? ? 0 22 Mar ?2010 Graeca.fam
drwxr-xr-x@ ?4 MacPro ?staff ? ? 264 26 Mar ?2010 Greca Opentype
-rwxr-xr-x@ ?1 MacPro ?staff ? ? ? 0 28 Lug ?2007 L Decoration Pi 1
-rwxr-xr-x@ ?1 MacPro ?staff ? ? ? 0 18 Ago ?2006 LDecPiOne
-rwxr-xr-x@ ?1 MacPro ?staff ? ? ? 0 18 Ago ?2006 MathePiThr
-rwxr-xr-x@ ?1 MacPro ?staff ? ? ? 0 28 Lug ?2007 MathematicalPi 3
drwxr-xr-x@ 17 MacPro ?staff ? ? 534 23 Apr ?2010 Method
-rwxr-xr-x ? 1 MacPro ?staff ?234868 31 Lug ?2009 MinionPro-Bold.otf
-rwxr-xr-x ? 1 MacPro ?staff ?236528 31 Lug ?2009 MinionPro-BoldCn.otf
-rwxr-xr-x ? 1 MacPro ?staff ?279376 31 Lug ?2009 MinionPro-BoldCnIt.otf
-rwxr-xr-x ? 1 MacPro ?staff ?280820 31 Lug ?2009 MinionPro-BoldIt.otf
-rwxr-xr-x ? 1 MacPro ?staff ?280924 31 Lug ?2009 MinionPro-It.otf
-rwxr-xr-x ? 1 MacPro ?staff ?236940 31 Lug ?2009 MinionPro-Medium.otf
-rwxr-xr-x ? 1 MacPro ?staff ?279836 31 Lug ?2009 MinionPro-MediumIt.otf
-rwxr-xr-x ? 1 MacPro ?staff ?235436 31 Lug ?2009 MinionPro-Regular.otf
-rwxr-xr-x ? 1 MacPro ?staff ?237800 31 Lug ?2009 MinionPro-Semibold.otf
-rwxr-xr-x ? 1 MacPro ?staff ?281364 31 Lug ?2009 MinionPro-SemiboldIt.otf
-rwxr-xr-x@ ?1 MacPro ?staff ? ? ? 0 18 Ago ?2006 Monotype Sorts
-rwxr-xr-x@ ?1 MacPro ?staff ? ? ? 0 18 Ago ?2006 Rapha
-rwxr-xr-x@ ?1 MacPro ?staff ? ? ? 0 28 Lug ?2007 Raphael
-rwxr-xr-x ? 1 MacPro ?staff ? 75020 25 Dic ?2005 Symbol.dfont
-rwxr-xr-x ? 1 MacPro ?staff ?154081 25 Dic ?2005 ZapfDingbats.dfont

but if i open folder i got what i posted in screenshot :-(

So problem is netatalk??

Thanks a lot Ronald?
Ram


Il giorno 18/dic/2014, alle ore 11.18, devzero at web.de ha scritto:

so, apparently you may have missed this mail:
?>but this does not explain why the files on the destination are 0kb sized -
with that background
>information you delivered, i assume they may already be 0kb on the source
side - but Ram may
>have overseen that because he did not look from the shell`s point of view
but from the OSX
>point of view via netatalk ? so this is not a rsync problem at all then...?
you look onto the files from the OSX`s point of view via netatalk.
?
please send the output of "ls -la" from the unix commandline, i`m sure
this looks very different there. I still assume the files are 0kb on the source
side already when you? take a look below the appletalk layer...
?
regards
roland
?
?
Gesendet:?Donnerstag, 18. Dezember 2014 um 10:02 Uhr
Von:?"Ram Ballu" <ram at edom.it>
An:?devzero at web.de
Betreff:?Re: Aw: Re: rsync not copy all information for font file
Il giorno 17/dic/2014, alle ore 20.48, devzero at web.de ha scritto:
?
I`m curious how linux should be able to distinguish that "Monotype
Sorts" is a "Font Suitcase" and "Rapha" is a PS Type1
Font.
are these screenshots taken on OSX or on linux ?
?
Screenshots taken from mac after backup i open both folder source folder from
the server and destination folder from the back hdd.
?
?
Gesendet:?Mittwoch, 17. Dezember 2014 um 14:01 Uh
?
Von: "Ram Ballu" <ram at edom.it>
An: devzero at web.de
Betreff: Re: rsync not copy all information for font file
Il giorno 16/dic/2014, alle ore 20.28, devzero at web.de ha scritto:
maybe you can put them on minus.com (that works without login) and link them
here?
?
Link Screenshot original folder--> http://min.us/i/KKFsDDgZcwaq
Link Screenshot backup folder--> http://minus.com/i/cDtRj8iQzCYA
?
please, what is the source and what is the destination filesystem ?
?
Source file system --> Ext4
Destination file system --> HFS+
?
Thanks a lot
Ram

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2014-Dec-18 13:31 UTC

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Ram Ballu

2014-Dec-18 14:44 UTC

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Il giorno 18/dic/2014, alle ore 12.36, bryan.pliatsios ha scritto:
> Ram,
>   Look inside the .AppleDouble folder and tou will find the resource forks
that hold the main part of the font data.Thanks Bryan for your kind suggestion, but i have no idea how to use
.AppleDouble file, if you can provide some link or idea about this?
>   Not a 'problem' with netatalk, but just how netatalk works so
that it can represent apple files on non-apple filesystems.
> 
>    If you confirm the data all matches, this will prove rsync is working
properly.yes rsync working properly.
> 
>   Bryan

Bryan Pliatsios

2014-Dec-18 21:31 UTC

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Ram,
  As Roland mentions in his other email, you should investigate and understand
the way netatalk works.

  I think at this point it?s best that you get assistance from the Netatalk
community, as this appears not to be an rsync issue.
  http://netatalk.sourceforge.net/2.2/htmldocs/
<http://netatalk.sourceforge.net/2.2/htmldocs/>  (v3 does not use
Appledouble, so you must be on v2.x)
  http://netatalk.sourceforge.net/mailing_lists.php
<http://netatalk.sourceforge.net/mailing_lists.php>
Regards,

  Bryan
> On 19 Dec 2014, at 1:44 am, Ram Ballu <ram at edom.it> wrote:
> 
> Il giorno 18/dic/2014, alle ore 12.36, bryan.pliatsios ha scritto:
> 
>> Ram,
>>  Look inside the .AppleDouble folder and tou will find the resource
forks that hold the main part of the font data.
> Thanks Bryan for your kind suggestion, but i have no idea how to use
.AppleDouble file, if you can provide some link or idea about this?
> 
>>  Not a 'problem' with netatalk, but just how netatalk works so
that it can represent apple files on non-apple filesystems.
>> 
>>   If you confirm the data all matches, this will prove rsync is working
properly.
> yes rsync working properly.
> 
>> 
>>  Bryan
> 
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