rspec users - Apr 2009 - [cucumber] Use of Scenario Outline for validation stuff ?

Hi there !
I was wondering if the way I test the validation of my forms is right or
not. So here''s a little example :
Imagine you have a form with some validations designed to create some
object. You want to test it using Scenario Outline and Examples. So you
fill in the fields using <value>, and press the create button. Then you
"should see" (using webrat) the <message> telling you
- that the object has been well created
- that some field isn''t well filled

And after that, in the objects list, you "should see" the created
object
in the list

Assuming that the object has been created, you will see it in the list
BUT if it has NOT been created, you won''t. And, in my case, it will end
in an error

So my questions are :
- Is it possible, using some trick, to use some conditions inside the
.feature file ?
- Do you think it''s a good use of Scenario Outline ? Or you think I
should have split it into 2 different scenarios (1 with working stuff, 1
with validation errors)

I hope I''m clear. If I''m not, here''s an example code
of what I''m talking
about :Scenario Outline: Create a VAT
****************************************************************************************************
Given I am logged in as a SuperAdmin user
When I go to the VATs page
And I follow "New VAT"
And I fill in "vat_caption" with "<caption>"
And I fill in "vat_value" with "<value>"
And I press "Cr?er"
Then I should see "<message>"
And the VAT "<caption>" should be present in the VAT list
<==================== What it''s all about, works if VAT added, but
shouldn''t be interpreted if VAT not added

Examples:
  | caption | value | message |
  | Normal | 19.6 | VAT Normal well created |
  | | 19.6 | You are supposed to fill the caption field |
  | Normal | | You are supposed to fill the VAT field |
  | Normal | test | You are supposed to fill the VAT field with a
numeric value |
****************************************************************************************************
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Sorry about bad formating, I pasted it and haven''t checked ...

Well, you may have understood that the "<====" thing is pointing to
the
''And the VAT "<caption>" ...'' line, the 1st
col of 2nd line in the
examples is a blank one, and the last line is cut into 2
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Aheeeem .... Please someone delete this post, I didn''t see my post is 
already present on the topic list, coming from the rubyforge rspec 
mailing list I guess.

My apologies anyway ...
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Aslak Helles?y wrote:
>> Sorry about bad formating, I pasted it and haven''t checked ...
>>
>> Well, you may have understood that the "<====" thing is
pointing to the
>> ''And the VAT "<caption>" ...'' line,
the 1st col of 2nd line in the
>> examples is a blank one, and the last line is cut into 2
> 
> 
> Sorry, I''m a little lost here. Was this supposed to be a reply to
an
> existing thread? Which one? Please use your email program''s reply 
> button, or
> your mails will appear outside the thread.
> 
> Aslak
This is not a reply to an existing thread, but a mistakenly reposted 
thread. The original one is here : 
http://www.ruby-forum.com/topic/185132#new

My apologies again.
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