<http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=10368> Came across this as a stub page browsing Amazon UK. This is good news! I''m surprised it hasn''t been discussed on the list before. Was Chad keeping it a secret? I hope it will have plenty of BDD theory. I''m still waiting for that magic book I can give to someone and say "here - read this, it tells you how to build software". Ashley
I can''t wait to read this. If IronRuby ever supports RSpec, I''ll give a copy of this book to all my .NET cronies and say just what Ashley said. :) On 8/8/07, Ashley Moran <work at ashleymoran.me.uk> wrote:> <http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=10368> > > Came across this as a stub page browsing Amazon UK. This is good > news! I''m surprised it hasn''t been discussed on the list before. > Was Chad keeping it a secret? > > I hope it will have plenty of BDD theory. I''m still waiting for that > magic book I can give to someone and say "here - read this, it tells > you how to build software". > > Ashley > > _______________________________________________ > rspec-users mailing list > rspec-users at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users >-- Cheers, Kevin Williams http://www.almostserio.us/ http://kevwil.tumblr.com/ http://kevwil.jaiku.com/
Speaking of a BDD book, does anyone recommend Dave Astels book? Or should I assume I doing "testing well" if I''m using rspec? Scott On Aug 8, 2007, at 5:53 AM, Ashley Moran wrote:> <http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=10368> > > Came across this as a stub page browsing Amazon UK. This is good > news! I''m surprised it hasn''t been discussed on the list before. > Was Chad keeping it a secret? > > I hope it will have plenty of BDD theory. I''m still waiting for that > magic book I can give to someone and say "here - read this, it tells > you how to build software". > > Ashley > > _______________________________________________ > rspec-users mailing list > rspec-users at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
It''s dated, as far as the Java side goes. A lot of the examples don''t work anymore. This wouldn''t be a problem if it were just writing classes and text-based programs (because then it''s cake to do it in Ruby ;), but in his example he creates a full-blown GUI app. So it''s kind of hard to follow along, and I think a book about testing is of limited use when you can''t really test the code ;) However it''s still good from a conceptual standpoint, it drives home the point that TDD is about design, not testing. I really like Kent Beck''s book, although it''s more about testing techniques than using TDD as a design tool. This is an area where there''s certainly a void, I think. All the people who''ve really mastered TDD/BDD are probably too busy working to write a book. I''m definitely looking forward to this. Pat On 8/8/07, Scott Taylor <mailing_lists at railsnewbie.com> wrote:> > Speaking of a BDD book, does anyone recommend Dave Astels book? Or > should I assume I doing "testing well" if I''m using rspec? > > Scott > > On Aug 8, 2007, at 5:53 AM, Ashley Moran wrote: > > > <http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=10368> > > > > Came across this as a stub page browsing Amazon UK. This is good > > news! I''m surprised it hasn''t been discussed on the list before. > > Was Chad keeping it a secret? > > > > I hope it will have plenty of BDD theory. I''m still waiting for that > > magic book I can give to someone and say "here - read this, it tells > > you how to build software". > > > > Ashley > > > > _______________________________________________ > > rspec-users mailing list > > rspec-users at rubyforge.org > > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users > > _______________________________________________ > rspec-users mailing list > rspec-users at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users >
On 8/8/07, Ashley Moran <work at ashleymoran.me.uk> wrote:> <http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=10368> > > Came across this as a stub page browsing Amazon UK. This is good > news! I''m surprised it hasn''t been discussed on the list before. > Was Chad keeping it a secret? > > I hope it will have plenty of BDD theory. I''m still waiting for that > magic book I can give to someone and say "here - read this, it tells > you how to build software".I don''t think this will be the one and only book to solve that problem, but you should know that Aslak and I are working on an RSpec/BDD book as well. There are still some things being worked out, which is why I haven''t really been spouting about it yet, but you can expect to be hearing quite a bit about it within the next few weeks.
On 8/8/07, Ashley Moran <work at ashleymoran.me.uk> wrote:> I''m still waiting for that > magic book I can give to someone and say "here - read this, it tells > you how to build software".Have you read this one? http://www.amazon.com/Software-Development-Principles-Patterns-Practices/dp/0135974445/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-7438072-0005646?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1186627780&sr=8-1 It pre-dates the BDD discussion, but is packed with very relevant material.
Cool. The more exposure we can give BDD/RSpec, the better. I''ll probably read both. :) On 8/8/07, David Chelimsky <dchelimsky at gmail.com> wrote:> On 8/8/07, Ashley Moran <work at ashleymoran.me.uk> wrote: > > <http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=10368> > > > > Came across this as a stub page browsing Amazon UK. This is good > > news! I''m surprised it hasn''t been discussed on the list before. > > Was Chad keeping it a secret? > > > > I hope it will have plenty of BDD theory. I''m still waiting for that > > magic book I can give to someone and say "here - read this, it tells > > you how to build software". > > I don''t think this will be the one and only book to solve that > problem, but you should know that Aslak and I are working on an > RSpec/BDD book as well. There are still some things being worked out, > which is why I haven''t really been spouting about it yet, but you can > expect to be hearing quite a bit about it within the next few weeks. > _______________________________________________ > rspec-users mailing list > rspec-users at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users >-- Cheers, Kevin Williams http://www.almostserio.us/ http://kevwil.tumblr.com/ http://kevwil.jaiku.com/
Ashley Moran wrote:> I hope it will have plenty of BDD theory. I''m still waiting for that > magic book I can give to someone and say "here - read this, it tells > you how to build software".I have two copies, but as far as I know it''s still in print. If you can''t find it, let me know -- I''ll trade you for your copy of the magic book that tells you how to make money giving programming expertise away. :)
I''m including a chapter about RSpec and its Rails plugin in my book, The Rails Way. It''ll be out in October. I''m also rallying for an RSpec book to be added to our Professional Ruby Series at Addison-Wesley. Stay tuned for more on that. -- Obie Fernandez http://jroller.com/obie/ Pre-order my book The Rails Way today! http://www.amazon.com/dp/0321445619
Hi Obie I am patiently waiting for October as I am really look forward to this book! Cheers Shane On 9/08/2007, at 5:09 PM, Obie Fernandez wrote:> I''m including a chapter about RSpec and its Rails plugin in my book, > The Rails Way. It''ll be out in October. I''m also rallying for an RSpec > book to be added to our Professional Ruby Series at Addison-Wesley. > Stay tuned for more on that. > > -- > Obie Fernandez > http://jroller.com/obie/ > > Pre-order my book The Rails Way today! > http://www.amazon.com/dp/0321445619 > _______________________________________________ > rspec-users mailing list > rspec-users at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/rspec-users/attachments/20070809/ee57b554/attachment-0001.html