Redhat secure server - Sep 1999 - Re: RH 6.0 E-Commerce Edition?

Last I checked Stronghold cost $995.

Joe Pearson

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> From: David Stack <dstack@musicstack.com>
> To: redhat-secure-server@redhat.com
> Subject: Re: RH 6.0 E-Commerce Edition?
> Date: Wednesday, September 08, 1999 10:31 AM
>
> Not to get off of Red Hat subject too much, but how much does it
cost for
> Apache-SSL for commerical use?
>
> I went to the web site Apache-SSL site, but couldn''t find a price.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> >You can''t beat RH prices but you can''t beat
Apache-SSL either, the
open
> >sourced, freely distributable secure web server.
> >
> >www.apache-ssl.org for more info.  Don''t pay too much for
Stronghold.
> >
> >Jared
> >
> >On Tue, 7 Sep 1999, David Stack wrote:
> >
> >> I recenty bought the RH 6.0 ecommerce edition and my ISP is
having a heck
> >> of time getting the secure part of the server up and working.
They still
> >> haven''t figured it out with many hours logged with red
hat
suppport all at
> >> my expense.  The non-secure parts works fine, but forget about
secure part
> >> working!
> >>
> >> Appartenly, my fairly knowledgable ISP has even talked to third
highest Red
> >> Hat Tech support guy and even he can''t figure out why
their
product doesn''t
> >> work.
> >>
> >> Anyone else having similar problems?  I would be interested in
hearing.
> >> I guess major bugs are to be expected with all products that are
a few
> >> weeks old.
> >>
> >> My ISP is getting pretty feed up with RHSS and they are thinking
of
> >> ditching Red Hat all together and going with Stronghold.  I hope
they don''t
> >> since you can''t beat red hats price.  But then again if
Red hats
product
> >> doesn''t work what are you to do?  I guess you sometimes
get what
you pay
> >> for, especially when it comes to support.
> >>
> >> sorry for being so negative, but I am pretty bummed with this
whole red hat
> >> situation.
> >>
> >> Dave
> >>
> >>
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Apache-SSL is free for commercial and noncommerical use as it states near
the top of their website at www.apache-ssl.org.  Perhaps RH should
consider bundling it with their North American distributions.  Does anyone
know if RH has considered that?  Why reinvent the wheel?

Jared

On Wed, 8 Sep 1999, Joe Pearson wrote:
> Last I checked Stronghold cost $995.
>
> Joe Pearson
>
> ----------
> > From: David Stack <dstack@musicstack.com>
> > To: redhat-secure-server@redhat.com
> > Subject: Re: RH 6.0 E-Commerce Edition?
> > Date: Wednesday, September 08, 1999 10:31 AM
> >
> > Not to get off of Red Hat subject too much, but how much does it
> cost for
> > Apache-SSL for commerical use?
> >
> > I went to the web site Apache-SSL site, but couldn''t find a
price.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> >
> > >You can''t beat RH prices but you can''t beat
Apache-SSL either, the
> open
> > >sourced, freely distributable secure web server.
> > >
> > >www.apache-ssl.org for more info.  Don''t pay too much for
> Stronghold.
> > >
> > >Jared
> > >
> > >On Tue, 7 Sep 1999, David Stack wrote:
> > >
> > >> I recenty bought the RH 6.0 ecommerce edition and my ISP is
> having a heck
> > >> of time getting the secure part of the server up and working.
> They still
> > >> haven''t figured it out with many hours logged with
red hat
> suppport all at
> > >> my expense.  The non-secure parts works fine, but forget
about
> secure part
> > >> working!
> > >>
> > >> Appartenly, my fairly knowledgable ISP has even talked to
third
> highest Red
> > >> Hat Tech support guy and even he can''t figure out
why their
> product doesn''t
> > >> work.
> > >>
> > >> Anyone else having similar problems?  I would be interested
in
> hearing.
> > >> I guess major bugs are to be expected with all products that
are
> a few
> > >> weeks old.
> > >>
> > >> My ISP is getting pretty feed up with RHSS and they are
thinking
> of
> > >> ditching Red Hat all together and going with Stronghold.  I
hope
> they don''t
> > >> since you can''t beat red hats price.  But then again
if Red hats
> product
> > >> doesn''t work what are you to do?  I guess you
sometimes get what
> you pay
> > >> for, especially when it comes to support.
> > >>
> > >> sorry for being so negative, but I am pretty bummed with this
> whole red hat
> > >> situation.
> > >>
> > >> Dave
> > >>
> > >>
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On Wed, 8 Sep 1999, Jared Mahoney wrote:
> Apache-SSL is free for commercial and noncommerical use as it states near
> the top of their website at www.apache-ssl.org.  Perhaps RH should
> consider bundling it with their North American distributions.  Does anyone
> know if RH has considered that?  Why reinvent the wheel?
The algorithms employed by SSL are currently under US patent protection,
and are owned by RSA Data Security, Inc.  This is one of the motivating
factors behind the original secure web server product.

You cannot use Apache-SSL (legally) in the US in its distributed form.

---
  Preston Brown                                    Systems Engineer
  pbrown@redhat.com                                Red Hat, Inc.

On Wed, 8 Sep 1999 pbrown@redhat.com wrote:
> The algorithms employed by SSL are currently under US patent protection,
> and are owned by RSA Data Security, Inc.  This is one of the motivating
> factors behind the original secure web server product.
>
> You cannot use Apache-SSL (legally) in the US in its distributed form.
I wonder what RSA DSI would charge an end user directly for a licence...or
if they''ll do that?

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I understand, but what about when the RSA patents expire late next year?

Jared

On Wed, 8 Sep 1999 pbrown@redhat.com wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Sep 1999, Jared Mahoney wrote:
>
> > Apache-SSL is free for commercial and noncommerical use as it states
near
> > the top of their website at www.apache-ssl.org.  Perhaps RH should
> > consider bundling it with their North American distributions.  Does
anyone
> > know if RH has considered that?  Why reinvent the wheel?
>
> The algorithms employed by SSL are currently under US patent protection,
> and are owned by RSA Data Security, Inc.  This is one of the motivating
> factors behind the original secure web server product.
>
> You cannot use Apache-SSL (legally) in the US in its distributed form.
>
> ---
>   Preston Brown                                    Systems Engineer
>   pbrown@redhat.com                                Red Hat, Inc.
>
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