Rails - Oct 2004 - Support Rails: Get Text Drive hosting!

Text Drive is an incredible cool hosting firm founded to support open 
source developers and projects by letting the users buy top-notch 
hosting straight from the source. They’re already home to Dean Allen of 
TextPattern, Rickard Andersson of PunBB Noel Jackson of Photostack and 
Matt Mullenweg of WordPress

On top of being in excellent company, Ruby on Rails is exceptionally 
well-supported on Text Drive. You’ll always have the latest version 
available as GEMs, you can keep your code under Subversion (and show it 
off with Trac), and have your choice of Postgre SQL or My SQL for the 
database.

Equally important: By being hosted on Text Drive, you’re supporting 
Ruby on Rails development with 50% of the profits from your plan. It 
won’t take many people before that turns into a very meaningful 
contribution that will allow Rails to go above and beyond. Be among the 
early adopters and you’ll be able to tell your grand children that you 
helped Rails reach world domination :)

Read more and signup on: 
http://www.rubyonrails.org/show/TextDriveHosting
Honor the people who''ve already signed up: 
http://www.rubyonrails.org/show/TextDriveUsers
--
David Heinemeier Hansson,
http://www.rubyonrails.org/  -- Web-application framework for Ruby
http://www.instiki.org/      -- A No-Step-Three Wiki in Ruby
http://macromates.com/       -- TextMate: Code and markup editor for OS 
X
http://www.basecamphq.com/   -- Web-based Project Management
http://www.loudthinking.com/ -- Broadcasting Brain
http://www.nextangle.com/    -- Development & Consulting Services

Hi David

Were is the site hosted?

I assume that the prices are in US dollars?

Are their any uptime guaranties?

Do you domain registration? i.e. www.scuttlebug.info or maybe 
www.scuttlebug.org

I have a site I want hosted and I am looking right now for a hosting 
company - maybe good timing.

Kurt

> Were is the site hosted?
They''re in the US.
> I assume that the prices are in US dollars?
Yup, yup.
> Are their any uptime guaranties?
Read more on http://www.textdrive.com/specs/ (but remember to signup at 
the Rails site).
> Do you domain registration? i.e. www.scuttlebug.info or maybe 
> www.scuttlebug.org
They don''t. But you can just register a domain and point it to their 
servers.
> I have a site I want hosted and I am looking right now for a hosting 
> company - maybe good timing.
It certainly sounds like it ;). I''m hosting all the Ruby on Rails stuff
with them. And the Macromates.com stuff as well.
--
David Heinemeier Hansson,
http://www.rubyonrails.org/  -- Web-application framework for Ruby
http://www.instiki.org/      -- A No-Step-Three Wiki in Ruby
http://macromates.com/       -- TextMate: Code and markup editor for OS 
X
http://www.basecamphq.com/   -- Web-based Project Management
http://www.loudthinking.com/ -- Broadcasting Brain
http://www.nextangle.com/    -- Development & Consulting Services

Hi - it sounds good -

However they just monitor but do not guaranty uptime it seems:

• 	24/7 monitoring (at 1 minute intervals) of the service, system and 
process-levels

I do like the strong Macintosh Friendly service stuff.

I am in OZ and those prices are $5 x 12 = $60 for www.textdrive.com 
were a similar hosting package here with http://netregistry.com/ (but 
they run Zeus with IBM hardware) one  of Australia''s largest hosting 
companies costs around $55 x 12 months =   $660 annually that makes 
www.textdrive.com easy 1/6 th price even with the exchange rate.

So it looks like a bargain - www.scuttlebug.info seems to be having a 
home soon.

Thanks David and cool PowerBook in the video and TextMate is way 
interesting Objective-C or RubyCocoa by the way, another reason Ruby 
interests me?

Kurt

> Thanks David and cool PowerBook in the video and TextMate is way 
> interesting Objective-C or RubyCocoa by the way, another reason Ruby 
> interests me?
Real Objective-C. I didn''t program it, though ;). I can''t
touch
anything but Ruby now.

And yearh, TextDrive is great. Not just because it''s cheap, but more 
because of the people running it. And for Rails development, it makes 
sense to support the framework you''re using (he said in all modesty 
;)).
--
David Heinemeier Hansson,
http://www.rubyonrails.org/  -- Web-application framework for Ruby
http://www.instiki.org/      -- A No-Step-Three Wiki in Ruby
http://macromates.com/       -- TextMate: Code and markup editor for OS 
X
http://www.basecamphq.com/   -- Web-based Project Management
http://www.loudthinking.com/ -- Broadcasting Brain
http://www.nextangle.com/    -- Development & Consulting Services

Objective-C and Ruby are technical very similar languages, both being 
very dynamic true OOP and have a huge dept to smalltalk, that is why 
the CocoaRuby bridge works so well.

If Ruby pans out - CocoaRuby would be on the books for me, imagine a 
CocoaRuby client to manage and update blogs, CMS, or even Rail.

Would be very easy - but lets get Rail and Scuttlebug running first.

Kurt

On 19/10/2004, at 11:55 PM, David Heinemeier Hansson wrote:
>> Thanks David and cool PowerBook in the video and TextMate is way 
>> interesting Objective-C or RubyCocoa by the way, another reason Ruby 
>> interests me?
>
> Real Objective-C. I didn''t program it, though ;). I can''t
touch
> anything but Ruby now.
>
> And yearh, TextDrive is great. Not just because it''s cheap, but
more
> because of the people running it. And for Rails development, it makes 
> sense to support the framework you''re using (he said in all
modesty
> ;)).
> --
> David Heinemeier Hansson,
> http://www.rubyonrails.org/  -- Web-application framework for Ruby
> http://www.instiki.org/      -- A No-Step-Three Wiki in Ruby
> http://macromates.com/       -- TextMate: Code and markup editor for 
> OS X
> http://www.basecamphq.com/   -- Web-based Project Management
> http://www.loudthinking.com/ -- Broadcasting Brain
> http://www.nextangle.com/    -- Development & Consulting Services
>
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> Rails mailing list
> Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org
> http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails

This may be a silly question, but does Text Drive provide all of the
features one would want in a production environment?

* FastCGI with the C-based Ruby bindings
* The C-based MySQL adapter
* Am I forgetting something?

Also, and this is more general, what is the best practice for
refreshing one''s FastCGI application in a shared hosting environment?
(When you control the server, after you''ve deployed a new copy of your
application, you can simply restart Apache.)

Michael

> * FastCGI with the C-based Ruby bindings
> * The C-based MySQL adapter
> * Am I forgetting something?
FastCGI: Yes. And if the C-based adapter is not there yet, it''ll be 
coming very shortly.
> Also, and this is more general, what is the best practice for
> refreshing one''s FastCGI application in a shared hosting
environment?
> (When you control the server, after you''ve deployed a new copy of
your
> application, you can simply restart Apache.)
Most of the time, FastCGI apps can be restarted in isolation of Apache. 
Some errors, however, will require a Apache restart. When that happens, 
you can do an "apachectl graceful" variant on TextDrive.
--
David Heinemeier Hansson,
http://www.rubyonrails.org/  -- Web-application framework for Ruby
http://www.instiki.org/      -- A No-Step-Three Wiki in Ruby
http://macromates.com/       -- TextMate: Code and markup editor for OS 
X
http://www.basecamphq.com/   -- Web-based Project Management
http://www.loudthinking.com/ -- Broadcasting Brain
http://www.nextangle.com/    -- Development & Consulting Services

> And if the C-based adapter is not there yet, it''ll be coming very 
> shortly.
The C-based adapter is now available on TextDrive ;)
--
David Heinemeier Hansson,
http://www.rubyonrails.org/  -- Web-application framework for Ruby
http://www.instiki.org/      -- A No-Step-Three Wiki in Ruby
http://macromates.com/       -- TextMate: Code and markup editor for OS 
X
http://www.basecamphq.com/   -- Web-based Project Management
http://www.loudthinking.com/ -- Broadcasting Brain
http://www.nextangle.com/    -- Development & Consulting Services

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On Oct 19, 2004, at 11:36 AM, David Heinemeier Hansson wrote:
>> And if the C-based adapter is not there yet, it''ll be coming
very
>> shortly.
>
> The C-based adapter is now available on TextDrive ;)
Hi Everyone,

The C-based adapter is in across the board.

And I wanted to say "hi" to the list and point something out (because 
the C-based adapter installation is a perfect example). The TextDrive 
thing isn''t just a kickback going to David for people signing up, David
is actually here, fully integrated, "on staff" as our resident Ruby 
expert and a full partner in the enterprise.

So when we don''t have something like the mysql C-based adapter on every
single server, David himself has root level access, did the 
installations and moved it into our own packages and server images. 
That''s the kind of software developer-hosting integration/synergy that 
we want to have going on here (essentially it''s David doing the 
"hosting" and we''re just helping).

Cheers, Jason

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David Heinemeier Hansson wrote:
> Most of the time, FastCGI apps can be restarted in isolation of Apache. 
> Some errors, however, will require a Apache restart. When that happens, 
> you can do an "apachectl graceful" variant on TextDrive.
Wow, that''s something *I* can do? Textdrive continues to amaze me...

-- 
Marten Veldthuis