Hi all, The chorus of "ayes" being conspicuously absent from the original thread [1], I''m guessing that buried deep in a thread wasn''t the best place to propose a timetable for starting the new group and asking for replies. So, quoting from that thread: << Hi all, I''ve been pursuing this new group thing behind the scenes with Tobie and the core team. And apparently I''m not the only one who thinks the spam has gotten just ridiculous. As you may know, we were sort of holding off moving to the new group until A) We could locate and contact the owner of this group so we could modify its description (etc.) to point to the new one, and B) Until we finished and posted a new FAQ to prototypejs.org which would (among other things) mention the new group. Frankly, both of them have been holding things up. But! Good news on both fronts. Tobie has finally succeeded (after much effort) in contacting an owner/manager of this group (DHH, in fact), and I''ve taken kangax''s stuff, Tobie''s outline, a few of my own ideas, and gotten together a draft FAQ. No major comments in a week, so it''s now just pending Andrew doing some final edits to it, and then one of the core team will post it to the site. We already have enough volunteers to be moderators on the new group (and many, many thanks to the folks who''ve come forward) so we can cut way down on spam. So here''s my recommendation: * 6 July 2008 (or soon thereafter): Post the FAQ. * 6 July 2008: "Open" the new group (it''s currently hidden to avoid confusion), announce it in a thread here, and allow discussions in both places while suggesting that new threads get posted to the new group (but still answering them here if they''re posted her). Start moving any ongoing discussions to the new group. * 15 July 2008: Stop answering questions here. If someone posts here, we''ll just tell them to repost to the new group (that can mostly be done by doing a standard footer that goes on all messages). Edit the description of this group to redirect people to the new group. * 15 August 2008: Close this group entirely to new posts. Here are the details of the new group -- we still have time to change the URL/email address if people want, but as we say here in the UK, it does what it says on the box: New group name: Prototype & script.aculo.us URL: http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous Email address: prototype-scriptaculous-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org All in favor of the above say aye! >> So far we have ayes on the timetable and such (there''s no question about *whether* to do it) from: * Myself * Ryan Gahl * Trevan Richins * Justin Perkins * Walter Lee Davis (I think) I''d like to see a few more ayes from high-profile posters before moving forward; seems important that we be pretty broadly in agreement on when to make the transition... -- T.J. Crowder tj / crowder software / com [1] http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-spinoffs/browse_thread/thread/0732340bedfdd74b --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Spinoffs" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-spinoffs?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Uh, Yeah, I''m in! Thank you for your consideration. - James. On Jul 4, 5:46 pm, "T.J. Crowder" <t...-MUGVhKWuB3Yd9SLi6J12IkEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Hi all, > > The chorus of "ayes" being conspicuously absent from the original > thread [1], I''m guessing that buried deep in a thread wasn''t the best > place to propose a timetable for starting the new group and asking for > replies. So, quoting from that thread: > > << Hi all, > > I''ve been pursuing this new group thing behind the scenes with Tobie > and the core team. And apparently I''m not the only one who thinks the > spam has gotten just ridiculous. As you may know, we were sort of > holding off moving to the new group until A) We could locate and > contact the owner of this group so we could modify its description > (etc.) to point to the new one, and B) Until we finished and posted a > new FAQ to prototypejs.org which would (among other things) mention > the new group. Frankly, both of them have been holding things up. > > But! Good news on both fronts. Tobie has finally succeeded (after > much effort) in contacting an owner/manager of this group (DHH, in > fact), and I''ve taken kangax''s stuff, Tobie''s outline, a few of my own > ideas, and gotten together a draft FAQ. No major comments in a week, > so it''s now just pending Andrew doing some final edits to it, and then > one of the core team will post it to the site. We already have enough > volunteers to be moderators on the new group (and many, many thanks to > the folks who''ve come forward) so we can cut way down on spam. > > So here''s my recommendation: > > * 6 July 2008 (or soon thereafter): Post the FAQ. > * 6 July 2008: "Open" the new group (it''s currently hidden to avoid > confusion), announce it in a thread here, and allow discussions in > both places while suggesting that new threads get posted to the new > group (but still answering them here if they''re posted her). Start > moving any ongoing discussions to the new group. > * 15 July 2008: Stop answering questions here. If someone posts > here, we''ll just tell them to repost to the new group (that can mostly > be done by doing a standard footer that goes on all messages). Edit > the description of this group to redirect people to the new group. > * 15 August 2008: Close this group entirely to new posts. > > Here are the details of the new group -- we still have time to change > the URL/email address if people want, but as we say here in the UK, it > does what it says on the box: > > New group name: Prototype & script.aculo.us > URL:http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous > Email address: prototype-scriptaculous-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org > > All in favor of the above say aye! >> > > So far we have ayes on the timetable and such (there''s no question > about *whether* to do it) from: > * Myself > * Ryan Gahl > * Trevan Richins > * Justin Perkins > * Walter Lee Davis (I think) > > I''d like to see a few more ayes from high-profile posters before > moving forward; seems important that we be pretty broadly in agreement > on when to make the transition... > -- > T.J. Crowder > tj / crowder software / com > > [1]http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-spinoffs/browse_thread/thr...--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Spinoffs" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-spinoffs?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On 5.7.2008, at 0.46, T.J. Crowder wrote:> I''d like to see a few more ayes from high-profile posters before > moving forward; seems important that we be pretty broadly in agreement > on when to make the transition...My voice probably doesn''t count, but aye anyway! //jarkko -- Jarkko Laine http://jlaine.net http://dotherightthing.com http://www.railsecommerce.com http://odesign.fi
aye On Jul 4, 2008, at 11:46 PM, T.J. Crowder wrote:> All in favor of the above say aye! >>--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Spinoffs" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-spinoffs?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Aye aye, sir! --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Spinoffs" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-spinoffs?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Ditto, just to be clear! Walter On Jul 5, 2008, at 6:38 AM, Christophe Porteneuve wrote:> Aye aye, sir!--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Spinoffs" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-spinoffs?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Aye.clone(). On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 4:46 PM, T.J. Crowder <tj-MUGVhKWuB3Yd9SLi6J12IkEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > Hi all, > > The chorus of "ayes" being conspicuously absent from the original > thread [1], I''m guessing that buried deep in a thread wasn''t the best > place to propose a timetable for starting the new group and asking for > replies. So, quoting from that thread:-- Science answers questions; philosophy questions answers. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Spinoffs" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-spinoffs?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
''Aye''.times(10); -- kangax On Jul 4, 5:46 pm, "T.J. Crowder" <t...-MUGVhKWuB3Yd9SLi6J12IkEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Hi all, > > The chorus of "ayes" being conspicuously absent from the original > thread [1], I''m guessing that buried deep in a thread wasn''t the best > place to propose a timetable for starting the new group and asking for > replies. So, quoting from that thread: > > << Hi all, > > I''ve been pursuing this new group thing behind the scenes with Tobie > and the core team. And apparently I''m not the only one who thinks the > spam has gotten just ridiculous. As you may know, we were sort of > holding off moving to the new group until A) We could locate and > contact the owner of this group so we could modify its description > (etc.) to point to the new one, and B) Until we finished and posted a > new FAQ to prototypejs.org which would (among other things) mention > the new group. Frankly, both of them have been holding things up. > > But! Good news on both fronts. Tobie has finally succeeded (after > much effort) in contacting an owner/manager of this group (DHH, in > fact), and I''ve taken kangax''s stuff, Tobie''s outline, a few of my own > ideas, and gotten together a draft FAQ. No major comments in a week, > so it''s now just pending Andrew doing some final edits to it, and then > one of the core team will post it to the site. We already have enough > volunteers to be moderators on the new group (and many, many thanks to > the folks who''ve come forward) so we can cut way down on spam. > > So here''s my recommendation: > > * 6 July 2008 (or soon thereafter): Post the FAQ. > * 6 July 2008: "Open" the new group (it''s currently hidden to avoid > confusion), announce it in a thread here, and allow discussions in > both places while suggesting that new threads get posted to the new > group (but still answering them here if they''re posted her). Start > moving any ongoing discussions to the new group. > * 15 July 2008: Stop answering questions here. If someone posts > here, we''ll just tell them to repost to the new group (that can mostly > be done by doing a standard footer that goes on all messages). Edit > the description of this group to redirect people to the new group. > * 15 August 2008: Close this group entirely to new posts. > > Here are the details of the new group -- we still have time to change > the URL/email address if people want, but as we say here in the UK, it > does what it says on the box: > > New group name: Prototype & script.aculo.us > URL:http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous > Email address: prototype-scriptaculous-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org > > All in favor of the above say aye! >> > > So far we have ayes on the timetable and such (there''s no question > about *whether* to do it) from: > * Myself > * Ryan Gahl > * Trevan Richins > * Justin Perkins > * Walter Lee Davis (I think) > > I''d like to see a few more ayes from high-profile posters before > moving forward; seems important that we be pretty broadly in agreement > on when to make the transition... > -- > T.J. Crowder > tj / crowder software / com > > [1]http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-spinoffs/browse_thread/thr...--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Spinoffs" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-spinoffs?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
> All in favor of the above say aye! >> > > So far we have ayes on the timetable and such (there''s no question > about *whether* to do it) from: > * Myself > * Ryan Gahl > * Trevan Richins > * Justin Perkins > * Walter Lee Davis (I think) > > I''d like to see a few more ayes from high-profile posters before > moving forward; seems important that we be pretty broadly in agreement > on when to make the transition...Sounds like a good idea, but I''m a recent lurker and occasional poster, so I don''t fit your ''high-profile'' criterion. :-)> -- > T.J. Crowder > tj / crowder software / com > > [1]http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-spinoffs/browse_thread/thr...--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Spinoffs" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-spinoffs?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
> Sounds like a good idea, but I''m a recent lurker and occasional > poster, so I don''t fit your ''high-profile'' criterion. :-)S''alright, we reached critical mass: http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-spinoffs/browse_thread/thread/04f1cb44432adc88/ad63fce108f7732d -- T.J. :-) On Jul 7, 9:13 am, ColinFine <colin.f...-N55TwBif5Mo@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > All in favor of the above say aye! >> > > > So far we have ayes on the timetable and such (there''s no question > > about *whether* to do it) from: > > * Myself > > * Ryan Gahl > > * Trevan Richins > > * Justin Perkins > > * Walter Lee Davis (I think) > > > I''d like to see a few more ayes from high-profile posters before > > moving forward; seems important that we be pretty broadly in agreement > > on when to make the transition... > > Sounds like a good idea, but I''m a recent lurker and occasional > poster, so I don''t fit your ''high-profile'' criterion. :-) > > > -- > > T.J. Crowder > > tj / crowder software / com > > > [1]http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-spinoffs/browse_thread/thr... > >--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Spinoffs" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-spinoffs?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---