How do you guys check if an element has been orphaned or not? I''ve been using the parentNode method, but it only works when the element itself has been removed, but not when the container holding a few elements has been removed (understandably). I know I could probably just use Element#up to check for the body node, but that is an expensive query and I''m trying to make this as native as possible. At first I thought the built-in ownerDocument property would work, but it doesn''t seem to perform as I expect it to, which would be: "The document that this node is in, or null if the node is not inside of one." Short of using .up(''body''), is there a native method of checking if an element has been orphaned? -justin --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Spinoffs" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-spinoffs?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Was playing around with this some more, and realized I my best option is to just attempt to fetch the element in question. Makes for a pretty quick operation if the ID is present, otherwise the alternate method would be crawling back up the DOM from the element to find the body element (assuming the body has not been removed). This seems to do the trick: http://pastie.org/224848 If you know of a more efficient way please say so :) -justin --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Spinoffs" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-spinoffs?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
I like it. Although I wouldn''t worry about having a single exit point from the function. If you just say if () { return ....} else { return ...} that cuts the number of lines in half. :) -Fred On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 11:47 AM, mr_justin <justinperkins-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > Was playing around with this some more, and realized I my best option > is to just attempt to fetch the element in question. Makes for a > pretty quick operation if the ID is present, otherwise the alternate > method would be crawling back up the DOM from the element to find the > body element (assuming the body has not been removed). > > This seems to do the trick: http://pastie.org/224848-- Science answers questions; philosophy questions answers. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Spinoffs" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-spinoffs?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
I believe this could be shortened like so: Element.addMethods({ isOrphaned: function(element){ if (element.id) { return !!element.ownerDocument.getElementById(element.id); } return !!element.up(''body''); } }); Do you necessarily have to do .up(''body'') (instead of just .up())? -- kangax On Jun 30, 12:47 pm, mr_justin <justinperk...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Was playing around with this some more, and realized I my best option > is to just attempt to fetch the element in question. Makes for a > pretty quick operation if the ID is present, otherwise the alternate > method would be crawling back up the DOM from the element to find the > body element (assuming the body has not been removed). > > This seems to do the trick:http://pastie.org/224848 > > If you know of a more efficient way please say so :) > > -justin--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Spinoffs" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-spinoffs?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
One ! instead of two !!. If the element is found in the document, then it * isn''t* orphaned. And yes you need to check for the body in the parent chain because the element might be part of a whole tree that''s been orphaned. It still has a parent (element.up() != null) but the parent has been orphaned as well. There''s always the recursive approach, which will be nice when JS supports tail recursion: ;-) function isOrphaned(element) { return !element.parentNode || isOrphaned(element.parentNode); } -Fred On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 1:22 PM, kangax <kangax-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > I believe this could be shortened like so: > > Element.addMethods({ > isOrphaned: function(element){ > if (element.id) { > return !!element.ownerDocument.getElementById(element.id); > } > return !!element.up(''body''); > } > });-- Science answers questions; philosophy questions answers. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Spinoffs" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-spinoffs?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Wow thanks guys, I tend to be overly verbose :) This is what I got now, works great. Element.addMethods({ isOrphaned: function(element){ if (element.id) return !element.ownerDocument.getElementById(element.id); return !element.up(''body''); }); -justin --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Spinoffs" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-spinoffs?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Element.addMethods({ isOrphaned: function(element){ element = $(element); if (element.sourceIndex < 1) return true; //fast way to detect this for IE if (element.id) return ! element.ownerDocument.getElementById(element.id); return !element.descendantOf(document.body); } }); This version uses descendantOf which has some secret sauce in it that might be faster than traversing the dom (if supported). Also I use the sourceIndex supported by IE for a quick check. - JDD --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Spinoffs" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-spinoffs?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Thanks John, welcome improvements. One more tweak so the fallback condition works for IE... Element.addMethods({ isOrphaned: function(element){ if (element.sourceIndex < 1) return true; // for IE only if (element.id) return !element.ownerDocument.getElementById(element.id); return (element.descendentOf ? !element.descendentOf(document.body) : element.up(''body'')); } }); -justin --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Spinoffs" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-spinoffs?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
if you use element = $(element); you shouldnt have to worry about IE, because the element will be extended and it will have the descendentOf method. Also if I tweak the condition IE will be handled by the first condition now. Also maybe checking element.descendantOf(element.ownerDocument.documentElement) Element.addMethods({ isOrphaned: function(element) { element = $(element); if (element.sourceIndex !== null) return element.sourceIndex < 1; if (element.id) return ! element.ownerDocument.getElementById(element.id); return ! element.descendentOf(element.ownerDocument.documentElement); } }); --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Spinoffs" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-spinoffs?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 5:21 PM, jdalton <John.David.Dalton-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> if you use element = $(element); you shouldnt have to worry about IE, > because the element will be extended and it will have the descendentOf > method.In my usage that is unnecessary since I''m calling that method directly on an already instantiated element object, but it is a good addition for the Element.isOrphaned(''some-id'') usage. The problem I was having was a spelling error, descendent vs. descendant :) Your optimization to the last line is nice too. -justin --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Spinoffs" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-spinoffs?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---