Hello, I have a dilema and maybee you can help. We are developing a site which requires some ajax and visual features like: drop down menus on mouse over submit over ajax a checkbox state change star rateing like on yahoo music submit a form in background and change the content of a div with the reply from the server drag and drop sort add new form list elements on the fly with autocomplete or validation feature For a better understanding I created a page where visually all features I need are displayed. http://demo.webnova.ro/el Based on these information which JavaScript libaray you would recommend? I need a library that could do these features I require. Is there any which can make all of these? As I heared prototype is a good one and easy to learn but I can''t tell if it has the features mentioned above. If you would be able to do these functionalities, how much it would costs me? Thank you very much for your time answering this letter, Best regards, Peter Csaba ____________________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Spinoffs" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-spinoffs?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Hey Peter, Peter Csaba a écrit :> I have a dilema and maybee you can help. We are developing a site which > requires some ajax and visual features like: > > drop down menus on mouse overThere are 100% CSS solutions to this, even IE-compatible ones. So the JS issue is mostly moot (not to mention it makes for way better markup, semantically speaking).> submit over ajax a checkbox state changePrototype: Event.observe + Ajax.Request, or server-side with Rails: observe_field.> star rateing like on yahoo musicPrototype: Event.observe + Ajax.Request (or Ajax.Updater)> submit a form in background and change the content of a div with the > reply from the serverPrototype: Event.observe on submit + Ajax.Updater.> drag and drop sortscript.aculo.us: Sortable.create.> add new form list elements on the fly with autocomplete or > validation featureI''m not too sure what you mean by that. List as in flat <select>? Or just a *visual* list? At any rate, sounds like script.aculo.us'' Ajax.Autocompleter (or Autocompleter.Local, depending on your datasource) with a callback and Prototype''s Insertion.Bottom. As for validation, it''s really all about CSS and custom server-side stuff, but it''s simple enough to design and then factor.> For a better understanding I created a page where visually all features > I need are displayed. > > http://demo.webnova.ro/elOh, and if you need good dialog box-like UI''s (as in your item 2 on this page), check out Prototype Windows by Sébastien Gruhier. It''s based on Prototype and script.aculo.us, BTW.> Based on these information which JavaScript libaray you would recommend? > I need a library that could do these features I require. > > Is there any which can make all of these?Prototype and script.aculo.us are indeed rather capable of achieving those goals easily enough.> As I heared prototype is a good one and easy to learn but I can''t tell > if it has the features mentioned above.Yes, it lacks pro-quality docs online. But it *will* have those pretty soon. In the meantime, there are books. If you''re French or operate in a French context (which is a possibility, since many of your screenshots in the linked page use French contents), my book is hitting the shelves on Wednesday, and documents just about everything you need thoroughly. Just look me up on eyrolles.com.> If you would be able to do these functionalities, how much it would > costs me?Both those libs are open-source, so a) it won''t cost you a dime, b) you''ll be able to get answers by looking at the source and c) you''ll be able to create custom stuff easily enough. script.aculo.us has a rather nice, although slightly outdated, site and wiki-based documentation. And this Google group is very responsive.> Thank you very much for your time answering this letter,Sure thing! ''hope this helps. -- Christophe Porteneuve aka TDD tdd-x+CfDp/qHev2eFz/2MeuCQ@public.gmane.org --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Spinoffs" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-spinoffs?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Am 13.11.2006 um 17:54 schrieb Christophe Porteneuve:> Yes, it lacks pro-quality docs online. But it *will* have those > pretty > soon.Shhh!!! ;) -Thomas --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Spinoffs" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-spinoffs?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
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> There are 100% CSS solutions to this, even IE-compatible ones.Aren''t you still needing to use the suckerfish-technique or something similar in IE6- to get this to work, or have someone come up with a better technique? --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Spinoffs" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-spinoffs?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Aren''t you still needing to use the suckerfish-technique or something similar in IE6- to get this to work, or am I missing something here? ;) --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Spinoffs" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-spinoffs?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Hello Christophe, Thank you replying to my message (and others too). (http://demo.webnova.ro/el/) Based on your suggestion I''ll try to create the below (old message) mentioned features using Prototype. I''m shure I''ll get the support from this group in order to reallize what I need. (thank you!) Unfortunately Prototype and scripts.aculo lacks a page with examples. Users like me who are not that familiar with the script would like to see as much examples as possible gathered in one place in order to be able to choose from different solutions. As the google group permits adding pages to the group maybee it would be an ideea that everybody who has a sample page to add it to the group. http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rubyonrails-spinoffs/web I started by adding the context menu sample to the page (realised by somebody else from this group). Others are wellcome to do so too. If I suceed to create the features mentioned in http://demo.webnova.ro/el/ I''ll add these samples aswell so others can learn from it too. Any help in this area is wellcome. "Christophe Porteneuve : my book is hitting the shelves on Wednesday, and documents just about everything you need thoroughly. Just look me up on eyrolles.com." Did you book finish? can we see it somewhere? Best regards, Peter Csaba www.mediafamily.ro ----- Original Message ---- From: Christophe Porteneuve <tdd-x+CfDp/qHev2eFz/2MeuCQ@public.gmane.org> To: rubyonrails-spinoffs-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 6:54:58 PM Subject: [Rails-spinoffs] Re: Which JavaScript Library should be used? Hey Peter, Peter Csaba a écrit :> I have a dilema and maybee you can help. We are developing a site which > requires some ajax and visual features like: > > drop down menus on mouse overThere are 100% CSS solutions to this, even IE-compatible ones. So the JS issue is mostly moot (not to mention it makes for way better markup, semantically speaking).> submit over ajax a checkbox state changePrototype: Event.observe + Ajax.Request, or server-side with Rails: observe_field.> star rateing like on yahoo musicPrototype: Event.observe + Ajax.Request (or Ajax.Updater)> submit a form in background and change the content of a div with the > reply from the serverPrototype: Event.observe on submit + Ajax.Updater.> drag and drop sortscript.aculo.us: Sortable.create.> add new form list elements on the fly with autocomplete or > validation featureI''m not too sure what you mean by that. List as in flat <select>? Or just a *visual* list? At any rate, sounds like script.aculo.us'' Ajax.Autocompleter (or Autocompleter.Local, depending on your datasource) with a callback and Prototype''s Insertion.Bottom. As for validation, it''s really all about CSS and custom server-side stuff, but it''s simple enough to design and then factor.> For a better understanding I created a page where visually all features > I need are displayed. > > http://demo.webnova.ro/elOh, and if you need good dialog box-like UI''s (as in your item 2 on this page), check out Prototype Windows by Sébastien Gruhier. It''s based on Prototype and script.aculo.us, BTW.> Based on these information which JavaScript libaray you would recommend? > I need a library that could do these features I require. > > Is there any which can make all of these?Prototype and script.aculo.us are indeed rather capable of achieving those goals easily enough.> As I heared prototype is a good one and easy to learn but I can''t tell > if it has the features mentioned above.Yes, it lacks pro-quality docs online. But it *will* have those pretty soon. In the meantime, there are books. If you''re French or operate in a French context (which is a possibility, since many of your screenshots in the linked page use French contents), my book is hitting the shelves on Wednesday, and documents just about everything you need thoroughly. Just look me up on eyrolles.com.> If you would be able to do these functionalities, how much it would > costs me?Both those libs are open-source, so a) it won''t cost you a dime, b) you''ll be able to get answers by looking at the source and c) you''ll be able to create custom stuff easily enough. script.aculo.us has a rather nice, although slightly outdated, site and wiki-based documentation. And this Google group is very responsive.> Thank you very much for your time answering this letter,Sure thing! ''hope this helps. -- Christophe Porteneuve aka TDD tdd-x+CfDp/qHev2eFz/2MeuCQ@public.gmane.org ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sponsored Link Mortgage rates near 39yr lows. $310k for $999/mo. Calculate new payment! www.LowerMyBills.com/lre --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Spinoffs" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-spinoffs?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
I''d suggest using the script.aculo.us wiki for this: http:// wiki.script.aculo.us/ There are already lots of demos and example on there, plus of course the http://wiki.script.aculo.us/scriptaculous/show/RealWorldUsage page that lists lots of live stuff. Best, Thomas Am 20.11.2006 um 13:39 schrieb Peter Csaba:> Hello Christophe, > > Thank you replying to my message (and others too). > (http://demo.webnova.ro/el/) > Based on your suggestion I''ll try to create the below (old message) > mentioned features using Prototype. I''m shure I''ll get the support > from this group in order to reallize what I need. (thank you!) > > Unfortunately Prototype and scripts.aculo lacks a page with > examples. Users like me who are not that familiar with the script > would like to see as much examples as possible gathered in one > place in order to be able to choose from different solutions. > > As the google group permits adding pages to the group maybee it > would be an ideea that everybody who has a sample page to add it to > the group. > http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rubyonrails-spinoffs/web > I started by adding the context menu sample to the page (realised > by somebody else from this group). > > Others are wellcome to do so too. > > If I suceed to create the features mentioned in http:// > demo.webnova.ro/el/ I''ll add these samples aswell so others can > learn from it too. Any help in this area is wellcome. > > "Christophe Porteneuve : my book is hitting the shelves on > Wednesday, and documents just about everything you need thoroughly. > Just look me up on eyrolles.com." > Did you book finish? can we see it somewhere? > > Best regards, > Peter Csaba > www.mediafamily.ro > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Christophe Porteneuve <tdd-x+CfDp/qHev2eFz/2MeuCQ@public.gmane.org> > To: rubyonrails-spinoffs-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org > Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 6:54:58 PM > Subject: [Rails-spinoffs] Re: Which JavaScript Library should be used? > > Hey Peter, > > Peter Csaba a écrit : > > I have a dilema and maybee you can help. We are developing a site > which > > requires some ajax and visual features like: > > > > drop down menus on mouse over > > There are 100% CSS solutions to this, even IE-compatible ones. So the > JS issue is mostly moot (not to mention it makes for way better > markup, > semantically speaking). > > > submit over ajax a checkbox state change > > Prototype: Event.observe + Ajax.Request, or server-side with Rails: > observe_field. > > > star rateing like on yahoo music > > Prototype: Event.observe + Ajax.Request (or Ajax.Updater) > > > submit a form in background and change the content of a div > with the > > reply from the server > > Prototype: Event.observe on submit + Ajax.Updater. > > > drag and drop sort > > script.aculo.us: Sortable.create. > > > add new form list elements on the fly with autocomplete or > > validation feature > > I''m not too sure what you mean by that. List as in flat > <select>? Or > just a *visual* list? At any rate, sounds like script.aculo.us'' > Ajax.Autocompleter (or Autocompleter.Local, depending on your > datasource) with a callback and Prototype''s Insertion.Bottom. > > As for validation, it''s really all about CSS and custom server-side > stuff, but it''s simple enough to design and then factor. > > > For a better understanding I created a page where visually all > features > > I need are displayed. > > > > http://demo.webnova.ro/el > > Oh, and if you need good dialog box-like UI''s (as in your item 2 on > this > page), check out Prototype Windows by Sébastien Gruhier. It''s > based on > Prototype and script.aculo.us, BTW. > > > Based on these information which JavaScript libaray you would > recommend? > > I need a library that could do these features I require. > > > > Is there any which can make all of these? > > Prototype and script.aculo.us are indeed rather capable of achieving > those goals easily enough. > > > As I heared prototype is a good one and easy to learn but I can''t > tell > > if it has the features mentioned above. > > Yes, it lacks pro-quality docs online. But it *will* have those > pretty > soon. In the meantime, there are books. If you''re French or > operate in > a French context (which is a possibility, since many of your > screenshots > in the linked page use French contents), my book is hitting the > shelves > on Wednesday, and documents just about everything you need thoroughly. > Just look me up on eyrolles.com. > > > If you would be able to do these functionalities, how much it would > > costs me? > > Both those libs are open-source, so a) it won''t cost you a dime, b) > you''ll be able to get answers by looking at the source and c) > you''ll be > able to create custom stuff easily enough. script.aculo.us has a > rather > nice, although slightly outdated, site and wiki-based documentation. > And this Google group is very responsive. > > > Thank you very much for your time answering this letter, > > Sure thing! 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Hey Peter, Peter Csaba a écrit :> Unfortunately Prototype and scripts.aculo lacks a page with examples. > Users like me who are not that familiar with the script would like to > see as much examples as possible gathered in one place in order to be > able to choose from different solutions.As Thomas replied, there is quite a lot of material on script.aculo.us'' wiki: http://wiki.script.aculo.us/ As for Prototype... wait and see!> "Christophe Porteneuve : my book is hitting the shelves on Wednesday, > and documents just about everything you need thoroughly. Just look me up > on eyrolles.com." > Did you book finish? can we see it somewhere?It did hit the shelves last Wednesday. The official page is here: http://www.editions-eyrolles.com/Livre/9782212120288/ You can also find it on Amazon.fr or Fnac.com: http://amazon.fr/Bien-d%C3%A9velopper-pour-web-2-0/dp/2212120281 http://www4.fnac.com/Shelf/Article.aspx?PRID=1890119 However, please remember it is in French; I don''t quite know whether that''ll cut it for you. -- Christophe Porteneuve aka TDD tdd-x+CfDp/qHev2eFz/2MeuCQ@public.gmane.org --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Spinoffs" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-spinoffs?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---