Rails core - Mar 2009 - [Rails] Would Ruby on Rails consider including the following Ruby project: Debugger for Ruby 1.9?

Hi -

I notice in the list of mentoring organizations for Google Summer of
Code 2009 there is no organization representing Ruby.

Last year, I had a student who was interested in debugging support in
Ruby 1.9 but due to a snafu on the part of the Ruby Central
administrator, Ruby lost the student altogether.

Earlier this year in the ruby-core mailing list, I mentioned the
possibility getting another student to work on some core changes into
YARV (the 1.9 VM), Kochi indicated he''d be interested in mentoring.
Given this ideal situation, would it be possible to list such a
project as part of Ruby Rails?

Thanks.

P.S. The "core" email address listed on
http://socghop.appspot.com/org/show/google/gsoc2009/rails
bounced email back to me saying there is no such account.

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Hi Rocky,

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 8:33 PM, rocky <rockyb@rubyforge.org>
wrote:
> I notice in the list of mentoring organizations for Google Summer of
> Code 2009 there is no organization representing Ruby.
Yes, unfortunately.
> Last year, I had a student who was interested in debugging support in
> Ruby 1.9 but due to a snafu on the part of the Ruby Central
> administrator, Ruby lost the student altogether.
>
> Earlier this year in the ruby-core mailing list, I mentioned the
> possibility getting another student to work on some core changes into
> YARV (the 1.9 VM), Kochi indicated he''d be interested in
mentoring.
> Given this ideal situation, would it be possible to list such a
> project as part of Ruby Rails?
Please do! We''re primary interested in Rails 3 development efforts,
but any coding projects relevant to the Rails ecosystem are welcome.
This one sounds particularly interesting and important to the whole
Ruby community.
> P.S. The "core" email address listed on
http://socghop.appspot.com/org/show/google/gsoc2009/rails
> bounced email back to me saying there is no such account.
Oops! Thanks.

jeremy

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Many many thanks!

I''ve applied as a rails mentor. My handle is rocky. Again, in the
event we can find someone I do intent to pull in Koichi if possible.

 I''ll be updating the rails wiki ideas soon. Other comments in line.

On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 12:04 AM, Jeremy Kemper <jeremy@bitsweat.net>
wrote:
>
> Hi Rocky,
>
> On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 8:33 PM, rocky <rockyb@rubyforge.org> wrote:
>> I notice in the list of mentoring organizations for Google Summer of
>> Code 2009 there is no organization representing Ruby.
>
> Yes, unfortunately.
I have my own theory based my experiences last year as a Ruby Central
mentor. But this kind of stuff is probably best kept private. So
should this be of interest and I''m not sure why it would be, contact
me off list.
>
>> Last year, I had a student who was interested in debugging support in
>> Ruby 1.9 but due to a snafu on the part of the Ruby Central
>> administrator, Ruby lost the student altogether.
>>
>> Earlier this year in the ruby-core mailing list, I mentioned the
>> possibility getting another student to work on some core changes into
>> YARV (the 1.9 VM), Kochi indicated he''d be interested in
mentoring.
>> Given this ideal situation, would it be possible to list such a
>> project as part of Ruby Rails?
>
> Please do! We''re primary interested in Rails 3 development
efforts,
> but any coding projects relevant to the Rails ecosystem are welcome.
> This one sounds particularly interesting
The actual technique for debugging which is basically to overwrite a
YARV instruction word with a one-byte "trap" instruction and replace
or simulate the overwritten instruction on return from the trap. I
think the whole concept is a bit interesting. From the Ruby/Rails side
it will mean no more slow downs between breakpoints like one sees in
ruby-debug (or many other debuggers which include virtually all of the
Python debuggers ;-)

It is also a little bit involved so I think I''ll have to at least
start soon on it. (Previously I was waiting on Ruby 1.9.1 to get
released since this was given the green light for post 1.9.1.)
> and important to the whole
> Ruby community.
If it is of any consolation, I suspect a case could be made during
project allocation time to allot an additional slot for this project
since there is nothing representing Ruby in of itself.

In the past, Google has been reasonable about such things.
>
>> P.S. The "core" email address listed on
http://socghop.appspot.com/org/show/google/gsoc2009/rails
>> bounced email back to me saying there is no such account.
>
> Oops! Thanks.
I see that this has been corrected. Thanks again!
>
> jeremy
>
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