Folk, I ran a Birds-Of-a-Feather (BOF) session at RailsConf2007 on this subject on Thursday evening. It was enthusiastically received, and the attendees were keen to continue communicating and collaborating. We decided to form a new mailing list on Yahoo, which has now been done. If you''re interested in helping fix the issues with Rails'' support for existing databases or enterprise schemas, you should consider joining us at <http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/enterprise-rails/> My notes and those taken by Keith Smith and Jordan Duggan are posted as a message and as a file on the Yahoo site. I''ve discussed the areas with Koz (of the core team), and he''s indicated that there should be no problems getting sufficient support in the form of frozen hook APIs etc, so we should be able to make good progress. Thanks for your attention, and do please consider getting involved in making Rails as much of a killer in the Enterprise as it is already in the public internet sphere. There were enterprise Rails issues mentioned other than database support ones, including deployment under IIS and UI widget library support. Because this was not the focus of the BOF, and is not the primary focus of this group, I''ll leave those issues to be raised again by whomever in interested. There wasn''t much discussion of them anyway. If the volume of messages in the new forum later justifies it, the discussions on these related topics can be taken off-line or to a new list. Clifford Heath, list owner, BOF organiser, cjh-Ynl7rte6dmO8HovF/b9Ot5owlv4uC7bZ@public.gmane.org, and author of ActiveFacts (see RubyForge or my site) --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---