Rails core - Aug 2006 - Trac Triage with THE MAGGOT (Time To Clean Your Patches)

Evening,

Alright folks, as Jeremy Kemper mentioned I''m working on a set of
"triage" scripts for the Rails trac using RFuzz to go through all the
tickets and clean them out.  I''ve talked this over with the core guys,
and they''re behind it.

I''m calling this set of scripts "THE MAGGOT" thanks to
hasmanyjosh.
Basically THE MAGGOT (all caps) will be run against the trac tickets
periodically and will auto-reject any tickets that don''t meet certain
criteria.

The goal of this is to keep the rails patches and trac tickets focused
and actionable.  Your tickets won''t actually go away, they''ll
just be
flagged "wontfix" with a terse little message about what''s
wrong with
it.

Everyone should take a look at the list and feel free to comment on the
results.  REMEMBER NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE YET.  We''re just exploring it.

Ok, first, here''s the writeup about the criteria and the list of
tickets
on the chopping block:

http://pastie.caboo.se/9354

And here''s the ticket listings:

http://dev.rubyonrails.org/report/16
http://dev.rubyonrails.org/report/18
http://dev.rubyonrails.org/report/11
http://dev.rubyonrails.org/report/3


WHAT TO DO

* If you have a ticket in the list (http://pastie.caboo.se/9354), look
at what it says is wrong and fix that.
* If your patch is really old, just mark it "resolved: wontfix".
* If your patch still applies, but maybe isn''t tested with the latest
1.1.6 then retest, regenerate, and resubmit.
* Finally, 1.1.6 isn''t listed as a version yet, so if your patch
applies
to 1.1.6 then just set it to 1.1.1.


Alright, thanks a bunch folks and enjoy your weekend.


-- 
Zed A. Shaw
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Hi Zed,


Le 20 août 06, à 06:33, Zed Shaw a écrit :
> The goal of this is to keep the rails patches and trac tickets focused
> and actionable.  Your tickets won''t actually go away,
they''ll just be
> flagged "wontfix" with a terse little message about
what''s wrong with
> it.
Did you think to a way to clean up spam posted as comments on pages ?
It makes some tickets hard to read.

Jean-Christophe Michel
--
symetrie.com

Better Nested Set for rails:
http://opensource.symetrie.com/trac/better_nested_set


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On 9/10/06, Jean-Christophe Michel <jc.michel@symetrie.com>
wrote:
>
> Hi Zed,
>
>
> Le 20 août 06, à 06:33, Zed Shaw a écrit :
> > The goal of this is to keep the rails patches and trac tickets focused
> > and actionable.  Your tickets won''t actually go away,
they''ll just be
> > flagged "wontfix" with a terse little message about
what''s wrong with
> > it.
>
> Did you think to a way to clean up spam posted as comments on pages ?
> It makes some tickets hard to read.
With the manditory login, this problem will eventually take care of
itself. Perhaps we just deal with it until then to save the work of
cleaning it up?

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On 9/10/06, Peter Michaux <petermichaux@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> On 9/10/06, Jean-Christophe Michel <jc.michel@symetrie.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Zed,
> >
> >
> > Le 20 août 06, à 06:33, Zed Shaw a écrit :
> > > The goal of this is to keep the rails patches and trac tickets
focused
> > > and actionable.  Your tickets won''t actually go away,
they''ll just be
> > > flagged "wontfix" with a terse little message about
what''s wrong with
> > > it.
> >
> > Did you think to a way to clean up spam posted as comments on pages ?
> > It makes some tickets hard to read.
>
> With the manditory login, this problem will eventually take care of
> itself. Perhaps we just deal with it until then to save the work of
> cleaning it up?

I''m curious how required login takes care of spam. Spammers can
register
like anyone else.

jeremy


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On 11 Sep 2006, at 01:56, Jeremy Kemper wrote:
> On 9/10/06, Peter Michaux <petermichaux@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 9/10/06, Jean-Christophe Michel <jc.michel@symetrie.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Zed,
> >
> >
> > Le 20 août 06, à 06:33, Zed Shaw a écrit :
> > > The goal of this is to keep the rails patches and trac tickets  
> focused
> > > and actionable.  Your tickets won''t actually go away,
they''ll
> just be
> > > flagged "wontfix" with a terse little message about
what''s
> wrong with
> > > it.
> >
> > Did you think to a way to clean up spam posted as comments on  
> pages ?
> > It makes some tickets hard to read.
>
> With the manditory login, this problem will eventually take care of
> itself. Perhaps we just deal with it until then to save the work of
> cleaning it up?
>
> I''m curious how required login takes care of spam. Spammers can  
> register like anyone else.
>
Spam scripts are mega automatic: spammers won''t sign up for an  
individual site and modify their code to use user params. In my  
experience with another high trafficed (and spammed) site, the act of  
registration killed off almost all of the spam.

James




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On Sep 11, 2006, at 6:08 PM, James Cox wrote:
>
> Spam scripts are mega automatic: spammers won''t sign up for an  
> individual site and modify their code to use user params. In my  
> experience with another high trafficed (and spammed) site, the act  
> of registration killed off almost all of the spam.
PhpBB also get''s spammed automatically. If it''s worth it,
they''ll
write it.

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On 11 Sep 2006, at 18:13, Manfred Stienstra wrote:
>
> On Sep 11, 2006, at 6:08 PM, James Cox wrote:
>>
>> Spam scripts are mega automatic: spammers won''t sign up for an
>> individual site and modify their code to use user params. In my
>> experience with another high trafficed (and spammed) site, the act
>> of registration killed off almost all of the spam.
>
> PhpBB also get''s spammed automatically. If it''s worth it,
they''ll
> write it.
The density of phpBB scripts make it worthwhile to attack. Right now  
hacking trac is probably not on the top of their list.... (at least i  
hope not!)

- James

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On 9/11/06, James Cox <james@imajes.info> wrote:
>
>
> The density of phpBB scripts make it worthwhile to attack. Right now
> hacking trac is probably not on the top of their list.... (at least i
> hope not!)
>
If possible, it could be made even less desirable by making all links in
comments on track have a rel="nofollow" so search engine rankings are
not
improved. That''s usually the goal of spam anyway. Besides, noone should
ever
be posting real links to trac for reason of search engine ranking anyway.

-Martin Emde


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On 9/11/06, Martin Emde <martin.emde@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> On 9/11/06, James Cox <james@imajes.info> wrote:
> >
> >
> > The density of phpBB scripts make it worthwhile to attack. Right now
> > hacking trac is probably not on the top of their list.... (at least i
> > hope not!)
> >
>
> If possible, it could be made even less desirable by making all links in
> comments on track have a rel="nofollow" so search engine rankings
are not
> improved. That''s usually the goal of spam anyway. Besides, noone
should ever
> be posting real links to trac for reason of search engine ranking anyway.
>
This was discussed at length on the Trac mailing list and ultimately
rejected. Spammers don''t seem to care either way.

jeremy


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