R SIG Debian - Sep 2008 - Does rattle depend on testing's ggobi?

Hello All,

I'm trying to install rattle from source on a AMD64 machine running etch.  I
have two packages installed from the etch backport 
(r-cran-rodbc and r-cran-rsprng) but all the rest installed from source. 
I'm
trying to install rattle, but 

install.packages("rattle", dependencies=TRUE)

Tries to install rggobi, which complains about the version of libggobi.  Does 
this mean that there isn't a way I can install rattle on etch?

* Installing *source* package 'rggobi' ...
checking for pkg-config... /usr/bin/pkg-config
checking pkg-config is at least version 0.9.0... yes
checking for GGOBI... configure: error: Package requirements (ggobi >= 2.1.6)
were not met:

Requested 'ggobi >= 2.1.6' but version of libggobi is 2.1.4



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Hi Robert,

You can install Rattle without ggobi. Indeed, just doing:

  install.packages("rattle")

should be okay. 

When Rattle finds it needs a package that is not available, Rattle
should popup a message with a suggestion to install the package, but
it will otherwise continue (of course without the functionality
provided by that missing package).

Also, to get the current development version of Rattle, you can do:

  install.packages("rattle",
repos="http://rattle.togaware.com")

Finally, whilst most rattle development is on sid/AMD64, we have fully
functioning installations of Rattle (version 2.3.81) on a collection
of etch/AMD64 servers in the ATO (with a number of backport updates to
R). It all works well, including ggobi.

I can check tomorrow what backports I've had installed if you need to
know.

Regards,
Graham

Received Wed 03 Sep 2008  4:26pm +1000 from Robert King:
> Hello All,
> 
> I'm trying to install rattle from source on a AMD64 machine running
etch.  I
> have two packages installed from the etch backport 
> (r-cran-rodbc and r-cran-rsprng) but all the rest installed from source. 
I'm
> trying to install rattle, but 
> 
> install.packages("rattle", dependencies=TRUE)
> 
> Tries to install rggobi, which complains about the version of libggobi. 
Does
> this mean that there isn't a way I can install rattle on etch?
> 
> * Installing *source* package 'rggobi' ...
> checking for pkg-config... /usr/bin/pkg-config
> checking pkg-config is at least version 0.9.0... yes
> checking for GGOBI... configure: error: Package requirements (ggobi >=
2.1.6)
> were not met:
> 
> Requested 'ggobi >= 2.1.6' but version of libggobi is 2.1.4
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Robert King, Statistics, School of Mathematical & Physical Sciences,
> University of Newcastle, Australia (CRICOS Provider Number: 00109J)
> Room V133  ph +61 2 4921 5548
> Robert.King at newcastle.edu.au   http://tolstoy.newcastle.edu.au/~rking/
> 
>  "It might be in the basement,         
>  I'll go upstairs and check .." Escher
> 
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Robert,

Mixing Debian stable and CRAN can be delicate at times.

On 3 September 2008 at 16:25, Robert King wrote:
| Hello All,
| 
| I'm trying to install rattle from source on a AMD64 machine running etch. 
I

Let's review what this implies -- you are telling your system that you want
"stable" software, ie no changes. This does imply "older
versions".  So
Debian will give you things like ggobi, just not the current version.

| have two packages installed from the etch backport 
| (r-cran-rodbc and r-cran-rsprng) but all the rest installed from source. 
I'm
| trying to install rattle, but 
| 
| install.packages("rattle", dependencies=TRUE)
| 
| Tries to install rggobi, which complains about the version of libggobi.  Does 
| this mean that there isn't a way I can install rattle on etch?
| 
| * Installing *source* package 'rggobi' ...
| checking for pkg-config... /usr/bin/pkg-config
| checking pkg-config is at least version 0.9.0... yes
| checking for GGOBI... configure: error: Package requirements (ggobi >=
2.1.6)
| were not met:
| 
| Requested 'ggobi >= 2.1.6' but version of libggobi is 2.1.4

One possible way out of this via the package system would be to

    $ sudo apt-get install r-cran-rggobi ggobi

However, this may or may not be a version current enough for rattle. We'd
have to look at that.

Otherwise, as Graham suggested, you can go 'all out to CRAN' but that
somehow
subverts the spirit of keeping the machine "stable" and at fixed
versions.

Hope this helps,  Dirk

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