Well to complicate things, I don't think RULES is the answer. This is a cryptic crossword clue. They usually contain the answer twice (well... Cryptically!!) Writes in C or R, say. I think the answer is CODER If you look up the definition of say in the dictionary one option is: 1. give instructions to or direct somebody to do something with authority (verb) That's the simple part of the clue. (Notice the comma cryptic clues have two parts giving the "same" answer) The more complex part I think is that and 'ode' (a poem that is written like it is said or something) is written in between C and R giving C ODE R, ... Very happy to be corrected... (Oh and as a third part a coder writes in C or R... I hope the JavaScript kids are listening ;-) ) On Fri, 13 Dec 2024, 04:26 Ebert,Timothy Aaron, <tebert at ufl.edu> wrote:> I do not understand the question and I do not understand the answer. > Possibly one confounds the other. > > -----Original Message----- > From: R-help <r-help-bounces at r-project.org> On Behalf Of Erin Hodgess > Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2024 11:56 AM > To: Bill Dunlap <williamwdunlap at gmail.com> > Cc: r-help at R-project.org > Subject: Re: [R] [off-topic] crossword > > [External Email] > > RULES! > > > Erin Hodgess, PhD > mailto: erinm.hodgess at gmail.com > > > On Thu, Dec 12, 2024 at 9:42?AM Bill Dunlap <williamwdunlap at gmail.com> > wrote: > > > The New York Times crossword this morning had the clue (51 down, 5 > > letters) "Writes in C or R, say". > > > > -Bill > > > > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] > > > > ______________________________________________ > > R-help at r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see > > https://stat/ > > .ethz.ch%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fr-help&data=05%7C02%7Ctebert%40ufl.edu > > %7C9366be18e5a944b55dba08dd1acde487%7C0d4da0f84a314d76ace60a62331e1b84 > > %7C0%7C0%7C638696193817496836%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGki > > OnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ > > %3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=hhGilTFwNpgxXeDLO0HS7l4ofoCk%2FXuGhYx3QkuzFj > > c%3D&reserved=0 > > PLEASE do read the posting guide > > https://www/. > > r-project.org%2Fposting-guide.html&data=05%7C02%7Ctebert%40ufl.edu%7C9 > > 366be18e5a944b55dba08dd1acde487%7C0d4da0f84a314d76ace60a62331e1b84%7C0 > > %7C0%7C638696193817516516%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRy > > dWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D% > > 3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Z7oKvEwSTzOCNXiMVlYtWtGTg30KADP8F09tQyv3fkA%3D&r > > eserved=0 and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible > > code. > > > > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] > > ______________________________________________ > R-help at r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > PLEASE do read the posting guide > https://www.r-project.org/posting-guide.html > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. > ______________________________________________ > R-help at r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > PLEASE do read the posting guide > https://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. >[[alternative HTML version deleted]]
Ok, that answer I understand and see it fitting. In that context there are several other possibilities that could also work: Programmer, hacker, geek, cracker. There are other choices, but the other options like ?skiddie? are ones that I do not recognize and have omitted. Tim From: CALUM POLWART <polc1410 at gmail.com> Sent: Friday, December 13, 2024 3:03 AM To: Ebert,Timothy Aaron <tebert at ufl.edu> Cc: Erin Hodgess <erinm.hodgess at gmail.com>; Bill Dunlap <williamwdunlap at gmail.com>; r-help at R-project.org Subject: Re: [R] [off-topic] crossword [External Email] Well to complicate things, I don't think RULES is the answer. This is a cryptic crossword clue. They usually contain the answer twice (well... Cryptically!!) Writes in C or R, say. I think the answer is CODER If you look up the definition of say in the dictionary one option is: 1. give instructions to or direct somebody to do something with authority (verb) That's the simple part of the clue. (Notice the comma cryptic clues have two parts giving the "same" answer) The more complex part I think is that and 'ode' (a poem that is written like it is said or something) is written in between C and R giving C ODE R, ... Very happy to be corrected... (Oh and as a third part a coder writes in C or R... I hope the JavaScript kids are listening ;-) ) On Fri, 13 Dec 2024, 04:26 Ebert,Timothy Aaron, <tebert at ufl.edu<mailto:tebert at ufl.edu>> wrote: I do not understand the question and I do not understand the answer. Possibly one confounds the other. -----Original Message----- From: R-help <r-help-bounces at r-project.org<mailto:r-help-bounces at r-project.org>> On Behalf Of Erin Hodgess Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2024 11:56 AM To: Bill Dunlap <williamwdunlap at gmail.com<mailto:williamwdunlap at gmail.com>> Cc: r-help at R-project.org<mailto:r-help at R-project.org> Subject: Re: [R] [off-topic] crossword [External Email] RULES! Erin Hodgess, PhD mailto: erinm.hodgess at gmail.com<mailto:erinm.hodgess at gmail.com> On Thu, Dec 12, 2024 at 9:42?AM Bill Dunlap <williamwdunlap at gmail.com<mailto:williamwdunlap at gmail.com>> wrote:> The New York Times crossword this morning had the clue (51 down, 5 > letters) "Writes in C or R, say". > > -Bill > > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] > > ______________________________________________ > R-help at r-project.org<mailto:R-help at r-project.org> mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see > https://stat/ > .ethz.ch<http://ethz.ch/>%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fr-help&data=05%7C02%7Ctebert%40ufl.edu<http://40ufl.edu/> > %7C9366be18e5a944b55dba08dd1acde487%7C0d4da0f84a314d76ace60a62331e1b84 > %7C0%7C0%7C638696193817496836%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGki > OnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ > %3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=hhGilTFwNpgxXeDLO0HS7l4ofoCk%2FXuGhYx3QkuzFj > c%3D&reserved=0 > PLEASE do read the posting guide > https://www/. > r-project.org<http://r-project.org/>%2Fposting-guide.html&data=05%7C02%7Ctebert%40ufl.edu<http://40ufl.edu/>%7C9 > 366be18e5a944b55dba08dd1acde487%7C0d4da0f84a314d76ace60a62331e1b84%7C0 > %7C0%7C638696193817516516%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRy > dWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D% > 3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Z7oKvEwSTzOCNXiMVlYtWtGTg30KADP8F09tQyv3fkA%3D&r > eserved=0 and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible > code. >[[alternative HTML version deleted]] ______________________________________________ R-help at r-project.org<mailto:R-help at r-project.org> mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide https://www.r-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. ______________________________________________ R-help at r-project.org<mailto:R-help at r-project.org> mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide https://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html<https://www.r-project.org/posting-guide.html> and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. [[alternative HTML version deleted]]
Thank you all for the helpful and enlightening comments. One question though, isn't "say" a synonym in oral forms of american english for "for example"? Which would translate to:> Writes in C or R, [for example].which would involve that C and R are possible examples of the usage contexts considered here in which someone would "write"? This would then make perfect sense to me for the proposed answer: "codes". Yours. Olivier. On Fri, 13 Dec 2024 08:02:32 +0000 CALUM POLWART <polc1410 at gmail.com> wrote:> Well to complicate things, I don't think RULES is the answer. > > This is a cryptic crossword clue. They usually contain the answer > twice (well... Cryptically!!) > > Writes in C or R, say. > > I think the answer is CODER > > If you look up the definition of say in the dictionary one option is: > > > > 1. give instructions to or direct somebody to do something with > authority (verb) > > > That's the simple part of the clue. (Notice the comma cryptic clues > have two parts giving the "same" answer) > > The more complex part I think is that and 'ode' (a poem that is > written like it is said or something) is written in between C and R > giving C ODE R, > > ... > > > Very happy to be corrected... > > > (Oh and as a third part a coder writes in C or R... I hope the > JavaScript kids are listening ;-) ) > > On Fri, 13 Dec 2024, 04:26 Ebert,Timothy Aaron, <tebert at ufl.edu> > wrote: > > > I do not understand the question and I do not understand the answer. > > Possibly one confounds the other. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: R-help <r-help-bounces at r-project.org> On Behalf Of Erin > > Hodgess Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2024 11:56 AM > > To: Bill Dunlap <williamwdunlap at gmail.com> > > Cc: r-help at R-project.org > > Subject: Re: [R] [off-topic] crossword > > > > [External Email] > > > > RULES! > > > > > > Erin Hodgess, PhD > > mailto: erinm.hodgess at gmail.com > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 12, 2024 at 9:42?AM Bill Dunlap > > <williamwdunlap at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > The New York Times crossword this morning had the clue (51 down, 5 > > > letters) "Writes in C or R, say". > > > > > > -Bill > > > > > > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] > > > > > > ______________________________________________ > > > R-help at r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see > > > https://stat/ > > > .ethz.ch%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fr-help&data=05%7C02%7Ctebert%40ufl.edu > > > %7C9366be18e5a944b55dba08dd1acde487%7C0d4da0f84a314d76ace60a62331e1b84 > > > %7C0%7C0%7C638696193817496836%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGki > > > OnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ > > > %3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=hhGilTFwNpgxXeDLO0HS7l4ofoCk%2FXuGhYx3QkuzFj > > > c%3D&reserved=0 > > > PLEASE do read the posting guide > > > https://www/. > > > r-project.org%2Fposting-guide.html&data=05%7C02%7Ctebert%40ufl.edu%7C9 > > > 366be18e5a944b55dba08dd1acde487%7C0d4da0f84a314d76ace60a62331e1b84%7C0 > > > %7C0%7C638696193817516516%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRy > > > dWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D% > > > 3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Z7oKvEwSTzOCNXiMVlYtWtGTg30KADP8F09tQyv3fkA%3D&r > > > eserved=0 and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, > > > reproducible code. > > > > > > > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] > > > > ______________________________________________ > > R-help at r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see > > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > > PLEASE do read the posting guide > > https://www.r-project.org/posting-guide.html > > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. > > ______________________________________________ > > R-help at r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see > > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > > PLEASE do read the posting guide > > https://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. > > > > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] > > ______________________________________________ > R-help at r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > PLEASE do read the posting guide > https://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, > minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.-- Olivier Crouzet, PhD http://olivier.ghostinthemachine.space /Ma?tre de Conf?rences/ @LLING - Laboratoire de Linguistique de Nantes UMR6310 CNRS / Universit? de Nantes
RULES means that anyone who uses C or R RULES the Universe. They just do. Erin Hodgess, PhD mailto: erinm.hodgess at gmail.com On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 1:02?AM CALUM POLWART <polc1410 at gmail.com> wrote:> Well to complicate things, I don't think RULES is the answer. > > This is a cryptic crossword clue. They usually contain the answer twice > (well... Cryptically!!) > > Writes in C or R, say. > > I think the answer is CODER > > If you look up the definition of say in the dictionary one option is: > > > > 1. give instructions to or direct somebody to do something with > authority (verb) > > > That's the simple part of the clue. (Notice the comma cryptic clues have > two parts giving the "same" answer) > > The more complex part I think is that and 'ode' (a poem that is written > like it is said or something) is written in between C and R giving C ODE > R, > > ... > > > Very happy to be corrected... > > > (Oh and as a third part a coder writes in C or R... I hope the JavaScript > kids are listening ;-) ) > > On Fri, 13 Dec 2024, 04:26 Ebert,Timothy Aaron, <tebert at ufl.edu> wrote: > >> I do not understand the question and I do not understand the answer. >> Possibly one confounds the other. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: R-help <r-help-bounces at r-project.org> On Behalf Of Erin Hodgess >> Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2024 11:56 AM >> To: Bill Dunlap <williamwdunlap at gmail.com> >> Cc: r-help at R-project.org >> Subject: Re: [R] [off-topic] crossword >> >> [External Email] >> >> RULES! >> >> >> Erin Hodgess, PhD >> mailto: erinm.hodgess at gmail.com >> >> >> On Thu, Dec 12, 2024 at 9:42?AM Bill Dunlap <williamwdunlap at gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> > The New York Times crossword this morning had the clue (51 down, 5 >> > letters) "Writes in C or R, say". >> > >> > -Bill >> > >> > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] >> > >> > ______________________________________________ >> > R-help at r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see >> > https://stat/ >> > .ethz.ch%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fr-help&data=05%7C02%7Ctebert%40ufl.edu >> > %7C9366be18e5a944b55dba08dd1acde487%7C0d4da0f84a314d76ace60a62331e1b84 >> > %7C0%7C0%7C638696193817496836%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGki >> > OnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ >> > %3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=hhGilTFwNpgxXeDLO0HS7l4ofoCk%2FXuGhYx3QkuzFj >> > c%3D&reserved=0 >> > PLEASE do read the posting guide >> > https://www/. >> > r-project.org%2Fposting-guide.html&data=05%7C02%7Ctebert%40ufl.edu%7C9 >> > 366be18e5a944b55dba08dd1acde487%7C0d4da0f84a314d76ace60a62331e1b84%7C0 >> > %7C0%7C638696193817516516%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRy >> > dWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D% >> > 3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Z7oKvEwSTzOCNXiMVlYtWtGTg30KADP8F09tQyv3fkA%3D&r >> > eserved=0 and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible >> > code. >> > >> >> [[alternative HTML version deleted]] >> >> ______________________________________________ >> R-help at r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help >> PLEASE do read the posting guide >> https://www.r-project.org/posting-guide.html >> and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. >> ______________________________________________ >> R-help at r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help >> PLEASE do read the posting guide >> https://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html >> and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. >> >[[alternative HTML version deleted]]