R help - Nov 2022 - Rare behaviour for nlme::reStruct example and question about ?lmeObject

1. Not developers, helpers (though there may be some developers among us,
too). Ergo, we don't make changes to code or man pages either.

2. If no satisfactory reply here, R-Sig-mixed-models is where you should
post. And post there first for mixed models questions in future.

Cheers,
Bert


On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 11:24 PM IAGO GIN? V?ZQUEZ <iago.gine at sjd.es>
wrote:
> Dear developers,
>
> When I run the example code in the help of reStruct, I get
>
>
> > library(nlme)
> > rs1 <- reStruct(list(Dog = ~day, Side = ~1), data = Pixel)
> > rs1
> Uninitialized random effects structure
> > str(rs1)
> List of 2
>  $ Side:Error in pdMatrix.pdSymm(x) :
>   cannot extract matrix from an uninitialized object
>
>
> Is it expected?
>
> In addition to that I would like to ask if shouldn't be `terms`
documented
> in `?lmeObject`.
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Iago
>
>
>
>
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Dear Bert and all other "helpers",


I agree that not all of you are developers. If I look at the DESCRIPTION 
of the nlme package I can see the next:

    Contact: see 'MailingList'

    BugReports: https://bugs.r-project.org
    MailingList: R-help at r-project.org

    Maintainer: R Core Team <R-core at R-project.org>

As I do not have bugs.r-project account, first I emailed to 
R-core at R-project.org, from where I got the next answer

    "Non-members are typically*NOT*  allowed to post messages to this
    private developers' list. Please use an appropriate mailing list (from
    http://www.r-project.org/mail.html). For R packages, use
    maintainer("<pkg>") in R (and if that is R-core at .., use
the R-help
    address).

    --> i.e. for nlme  use  R-help

by Martin Maechler. Therefore, I used R-help.

Best,

Iago


On 15/11/2022 16:20, Bert Gunter wrote:
> 1. Not developers, helpers (though there may be some developers among 
> us, too). Ergo, we don't make changes to code or man pages either.
>
> 2. If no satisfactory reply here, R-Sig-mixed-models is where you 
> should post. And post there first for mixed models questions in future.
>
> Cheers,
> Bert
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 11:24 PM IAGO GIN? V?ZQUEZ <iago.gine at
sjd.es>
> wrote:
>
>     Dear developers,
>
>     When I run the example code in the help of reStruct, I get
>
>
>     > library(nlme)
>     > rs1 <- reStruct(list(Dog = ~day, Side = ~1), data = Pixel)
>     > rs1
>     Uninitialized random effects structure
>     > str(rs1)
>     List of 2
>     ?$ Side:Error in pdMatrix.pdSymm(x) :
>     ? cannot extract matrix from an uninitialized object
>
>
>     Is it expected?
>
>     In addition to that I would like to ask if shouldn't be `terms`
>     documented in `?lmeObject`.
>
>
>     Kind regards,
>
>     Iago
>
>
>
>
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>
>     ______________________________________________
>     R-help at r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see
>     https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help
>     PLEASE do read the posting guide
>     http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html
>     <http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html>
>     and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
>
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