Ebert,Timothy Aaron
2022-Sep-29 14:00 UTC
[R] How long does it take to learn the R programming language?
Learning R takes an hour. Find an hourglass, flip it over. Meanwhile we will start increasing the size of the upper chamber and adding more sand. Mastery of R is an asymptotic function of time. While such answers might indicate trying for mastery is futile, you can learn enough R to be very useful long before "mastery." Tim -----Original Message----- From: R-help <r-help-bounces at r-project.org> On Behalf Of Avi Gross Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 5:51 PM To: John Kane <jrkrideau at gmail.com> Cc: R. Mailing List <r-help at r-project.org> Subject: Re: [R] How long does it take to learn the R programming language? [External Email] So is the proper R answer simply Inf? On Wed, Sep 28, 2022, 5:39 PM John Kane <jrkrideau at gmail.com> wrote:> + 1 > > On Wed, 28 Sept 2022 at 17:36, Jim Lemon <drjimlemon at gmail.com> wrote: > > > Given some of the questions that are posted to this list, I am not > > sure that there is an upper bound to the estimate. > > > > Jim > > > > ______________________________________________ > > R-help at r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see > > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fst > > at.ethz.ch%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fr-help&data=05%7C01%7Ctebert%4 > > 0ufl.edu%7C7229f6c17d764bd2742c08daa19bb65b%7C0d4da0f84a314d76ace60a > > 62331e1b84%7C0%7C0%7C637999987396320713%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJW > > IjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C300 > > 0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=8KNANsIMtWiElOAwn9pXvx%2BsueyNn329VkvFFx8Paew%3 > > D&reserved=0 > > PLEASE do read the posting guide > > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww > > .r-project.org%2Fposting-guide.html&data=05%7C01%7Ctebert%40ufl. > > edu%7C7229f6c17d764bd2742c08daa19bb65b%7C0d4da0f84a314d76ace60a62331 > > e1b84%7C0%7C0%7C637999987396320713%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiM > > C4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C% > > 7C%7C&sdata=32nVjz3UeC4QK7dd2PHA76BywkYQP9ucuN%2FWFFAUX8k%3D& > > ;reserved=0 and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, > > reproducible code. > > > > > -- > John Kane > Kingston ON Canada > > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] > > ______________________________________________ > R-help at r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstat > .ethz.ch%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fr-help&data=05%7C01%7Ctebert%40ufl > .edu%7C7229f6c17d764bd2742c08daa19bb65b%7C0d4da0f84a314d76ace60a62331e > 1b84%7C0%7C0%7C637999987396320713%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4w > LjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C > &sdata=8KNANsIMtWiElOAwn9pXvx%2BsueyNn329VkvFFx8Paew%3D&reserv > ed=0 > PLEASE do read the posting guide > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.r > -project.org%2Fposting-guide.html&data=05%7C01%7Ctebert%40ufl.edu% > 7C7229f6c17d764bd2742c08daa19bb65b%7C0d4da0f84a314d76ace60a62331e1b84% > 7C0%7C0%7C637999987396320713%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwM > DAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C& > sdata=32nVjz3UeC4QK7dd2PHA76BywkYQP9ucuN%2FWFFAUX8k%3D&reserved=0 > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. >[[alternative HTML version deleted]] ______________________________________________ R-help at r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstat.ethz.ch%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fr-help&data=05%7C01%7Ctebert%40ufl.edu%7C7229f6c17d764bd2742c08daa19bb65b%7C0d4da0f84a314d76ace60a62331e1b84%7C0%7C0%7C637999987396320713%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=8KNANsIMtWiElOAwn9pXvx%2BsueyNn329VkvFFx8Paew%3D&reserved=0 PLEASE do read the posting guide https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.r-project.org%2Fposting-guide.html&data=05%7C01%7Ctebert%40ufl.edu%7C7229f6c17d764bd2742c08daa19bb65b%7C0d4da0f84a314d76ace60a62331e1b84%7C0%7C0%7C637999987396320713%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=32nVjz3UeC4QK7dd2PHA76BywkYQP9ucuN%2FWFFAUX8k%3D&reserved=0 and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
jim holtman
2022-Sep-29 16:28 UTC
[R] How long does it take to learn the R programming language?
Still at it after 38 years. First came across S at Bell Labs in 1984. Thanks Jim Holtman *Data Munger Guru* *What is the problem that you are trying to solve?Tell me what you want to do, not how you want to do it.* On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 7:09 AM Ebert,Timothy Aaron <tebert at ufl.edu> wrote:> Learning R takes an hour. Find an hourglass, flip it over. Meanwhile we > will start increasing the size of the upper chamber and adding more sand. > > Mastery of R is an asymptotic function of time. > > While such answers might indicate trying for mastery is futile, you can > learn enough R to be very useful long before "mastery." > > Tim > -----Original Message----- > From: R-help <r-help-bounces at r-project.org> On Behalf Of Avi Gross > Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 5:51 PM > To: John Kane <jrkrideau at gmail.com> > Cc: R. Mailing List <r-help at r-project.org> > Subject: Re: [R] How long does it take to learn the R programming language? > > [External Email] > > So is the proper R answer simply Inf? > > On Wed, Sep 28, 2022, 5:39 PM John Kane <jrkrideau at gmail.com> wrote: > > > + 1 > > > > On Wed, 28 Sept 2022 at 17:36, Jim Lemon <drjimlemon at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Given some of the questions that are posted to this list, I am not > > > sure that there is an upper bound to the estimate. > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > ______________________________________________ > > > R-help at r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see > > > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fst > > > at.ethz.ch%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fr-help&data=05%7C01%7Ctebert%4 > > > 0ufl.edu%7C7229f6c17d764bd2742c08daa19bb65b%7C0d4da0f84a314d76ace60a > > > 62331e1b84%7C0%7C0%7C637999987396320713%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJW > > > IjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C300 > > > 0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=8KNANsIMtWiElOAwn9pXvx%2BsueyNn329VkvFFx8Paew%3 > > > D&reserved=0 > > > PLEASE do read the posting guide > > > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww > > > .r-project.org%2Fposting-guide.html&data=05%7C01%7Ctebert%40ufl. > > > edu%7C7229f6c17d764bd2742c08daa19bb65b%7C0d4da0f84a314d76ace60a62331 > > > e1b84%7C0%7C0%7C637999987396320713%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiM > > > C4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C% > > > 7C%7C&sdata=32nVjz3UeC4QK7dd2PHA76BywkYQP9ucuN%2FWFFAUX8k%3D& > > > ;reserved=0 and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, > > > reproducible code. > > > > > > > > > -- > > John Kane > > Kingston ON Canada > > > > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] > > > > ______________________________________________ > > R-help at r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see > > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstat > > .ethz.ch%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fr-help&data=05%7C01%7Ctebert%40ufl > > .edu%7C7229f6c17d764bd2742c08daa19bb65b%7C0d4da0f84a314d76ace60a62331e > > 1b84%7C0%7C0%7C637999987396320713%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4w > > LjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C > > &sdata=8KNANsIMtWiElOAwn9pXvx%2BsueyNn329VkvFFx8Paew%3D&reserv > > ed=0 > > PLEASE do read the posting guide > > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.r > > -project.org%2Fposting-guide.html&data=05%7C01%7Ctebert%40ufl.edu% > > 7C7229f6c17d764bd2742c08daa19bb65b%7C0d4da0f84a314d76ace60a62331e1b84% > > 7C0%7C0%7C637999987396320713%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwM > > DAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C& > > sdata=32nVjz3UeC4QK7dd2PHA76BywkYQP9ucuN%2FWFFAUX8k%3D&reserved=0 > > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. > > > > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] > > ______________________________________________ > R-help at r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see > > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstat.ethz.ch%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fr-help&data=05%7C01%7Ctebert%40ufl.edu%7C7229f6c17d764bd2742c08daa19bb65b%7C0d4da0f84a314d76ace60a62331e1b84%7C0%7C0%7C637999987396320713%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=8KNANsIMtWiElOAwn9pXvx%2BsueyNn329VkvFFx8Paew%3D&reserved=0 > PLEASE do read the posting guide > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.r-project.org%2Fposting-guide.html&data=05%7C01%7Ctebert%40ufl.edu%7C7229f6c17d764bd2742c08daa19bb65b%7C0d4da0f84a314d76ace60a62331e1b84%7C0%7C0%7C637999987396320713%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=32nVjz3UeC4QK7dd2PHA76BywkYQP9ucuN%2FWFFAUX8k%3D&reserved=0 > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. > > ______________________________________________ > R-help at r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > PLEASE do read the posting guide > http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. >[[alternative HTML version deleted]]