Barry Rowlingson
2022-May-05 13:13 UTC
[R] [External] Re: Is there a canonical way to pronounce CRAN?
If the founders had called it the Big R Archive Network we wouldn't be having this discussion but we'd all be getting our packages from BRAN. Or how about "Big R Internet Archive Network".... Or would that be confusing... Barry On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 3:51 PM Kevin Thorpe <kevin.thorpe at utoronto.ca> wrote:> This email originated outside the University. Check before clicking links > or attachments. > > Interesting. > > I have always pronounced it as See-ran. This probably stems from my > exposure to other archive like CPAN (perl) and CTAN (TeX) that I have been > exposed to. Obviously the latter two acronyms are unpronounceable as words > so I generalized the approach to CRAN. > > Kevin > > > > On May 4, 2022, at 7:20 AM, Roland Rau via R-help <r-help at r-project.org> > wrote: > > > > Dear all, > > > > I talked with colleagues this morning and we realized that some people > (=me) pronounce CRAN like the German word "Kran" (probably pronounced like > "cruhn" in English -- if it was a word). > > My colleague pronounced it as "Sea-Ran" or "Sea-Run". The colleague was > a student and has worked at the same institution as an R Core Developer and > heard it from him personally. > > > > So now I am puzzled. Have I been wrong about 43% of my life? ;-) > > > > Honestly: Is there a unique way how the core developers prounounce CRAN? > > > > Not an urgent question at all but maybe interesting to many of us. > > > > Thanks, > > Roland > > > > -- > > This mail has been sent through the MPI for Demographic ...{{dropped:2}} > > > > ______________________________________________ > > R-help at r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see > > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > > PLEASE do read the posting guide > http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. > > -- > Kevin E. Thorpe > Head of Biostatistics, Applied Health Research Centre (AHRC) > Li Ka Shing Knowledge Institute of St. Michael?s Hospital > Assistant Professor, Dalla Lana School of Public Health > University of Toronto > email: kevin.thorpe at utoronto.ca Tel: 416.864.5776 Fax: 416.864.3016 > > ______________________________________________ > R-help at r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > PLEASE do read the posting guide > http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. >[[alternative HTML version deleted]]
Erin Hodgess
2022-May-05 13:23 UTC
[R] [External] Re: Is there a canonical way to pronounce CRAN?
In that case, if you were a user without common sense, would you be a BRAN flake? On Thu, May 5, 2022 at 9:13 AM Barry Rowlingson < b.rowlingson at lancaster.ac.uk> wrote:> If the founders had called it the Big R Archive Network we wouldn't be > having this discussion but we'd all be getting our packages from BRAN. > > Or how about "Big R Internet Archive Network".... Or would that be > confusing... > > Barry > > On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 3:51 PM Kevin Thorpe <kevin.thorpe at utoronto.ca> > wrote: > > > This email originated outside the University. Check before clicking links > > or attachments. > > > > Interesting. > > > > I have always pronounced it as See-ran. This probably stems from my > > exposure to other archive like CPAN (perl) and CTAN (TeX) that I have > been > > exposed to. Obviously the latter two acronyms are unpronounceable as > words > > so I generalized the approach to CRAN. > > > > Kevin > > > > > > > On May 4, 2022, at 7:20 AM, Roland Rau via R-help < > r-help at r-project.org> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > I talked with colleagues this morning and we realized that some people > > (=me) pronounce CRAN like the German word "Kran" (probably pronounced > like > > "cruhn" in English -- if it was a word). > > > My colleague pronounced it as "Sea-Ran" or "Sea-Run". The colleague was > > a student and has worked at the same institution as an R Core Developer > and > > heard it from him personally. > > > > > > So now I am puzzled. Have I been wrong about 43% of my life? ;-) > > > > > > Honestly: Is there a unique way how the core developers prounounce > CRAN? > > > > > > Not an urgent question at all but maybe interesting to many of us. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Roland > > > > > > -- > > > This mail has been sent through the MPI for Demographic > ...{{dropped:2}} > > > > > > ______________________________________________ > > > R-help at r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see > > > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > > > PLEASE do read the posting guide > > http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > > > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. > > > > -- > > Kevin E. Thorpe > > Head of Biostatistics, Applied Health Research Centre (AHRC) > > Li Ka Shing Knowledge Institute of St. Michael?s Hospital > > Assistant Professor, Dalla Lana School of Public Health > > University of Toronto > > email: kevin.thorpe at utoronto.ca Tel: 416.864.5776 Fax: 416.864.3016 > > > > ______________________________________________ > > R-help at r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see > > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > > PLEASE do read the posting guide > > http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. > > > > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] > > ______________________________________________ > R-help at r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > PLEASE do read the posting guide > http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. >-- Erin Hodgess, PhD mailto: erinm.hodgess at gmail.com [[alternative HTML version deleted]]
Ebert,Timothy Aaron
2022-May-05 13:55 UTC
[R] [External] Re: Is there a canonical way to pronounce CRAN?
With "Big R Internet Archive Network" we could talk about the life of BRIAN, and any references to The Life of Brian would result in getting thrown to the floor by a Centurion. Better than a name like Windows where "Big Windows Internet Archive Network would be Bwian and we might wonder about thpiwit, (bwavado ... a touch of dewing-do), and about culturally insensitive joke names like Nortius Maximus and the risk of finding ourselves in gladiator school vewwy quickly with rotten behavior like this. -----Original Message----- From: R-help <r-help-bounces at r-project.org> On Behalf Of Barry Rowlingson Sent: Thursday, May 5, 2022 9:13 AM To: Kevin Thorpe <kevin.thorpe at utoronto.ca> Cc: R Help Mailing List <r-help at r-project.org> Subject: Re: [R] [External] Re: Is there a canonical way to pronounce CRAN? [External Email] If the founders had called it the Big R Archive Network we wouldn't be having this discussion but we'd all be getting our packages from BRAN. Or how about "Big R Internet Archive Network".... Or would that be confusing... Barry On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 3:51 PM Kevin Thorpe <kevin.thorpe at utoronto.ca> wrote:> This email originated outside the University. Check before clicking > links or attachments. > > Interesting. > > I have always pronounced it as See-ran. This probably stems from my > exposure to other archive like CPAN (perl) and CTAN (TeX) that I have > been exposed to. Obviously the latter two acronyms are unpronounceable > as words so I generalized the approach to CRAN. > > Kevin > > > > On May 4, 2022, at 7:20 AM, Roland Rau via R-help > > <r-help at r-project.org> > wrote: > > > > Dear all, > > > > I talked with colleagues this morning and we realized that some > > people > (=me) pronounce CRAN like the German word "Kran" (probably pronounced > like "cruhn" in English -- if it was a word). > > My colleague pronounced it as "Sea-Ran" or "Sea-Run". The colleague > > was > a student and has worked at the same institution as an R Core > Developer and heard it from him personally. > > > > So now I am puzzled. Have I been wrong about 43% of my life? ;-) > > > > Honestly: Is there a unique way how the core developers prounounce CRAN? > > > > Not an urgent question at all but maybe interesting to many of us. > > > > Thanks, > > Roland > > > > -- > > This mail has been sent through the MPI for Demographic > > ...{{dropped:2}} > > > > ______________________________________________ > > R-help at r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__stat.ethz.ch_ma > > ilman_listinfo_r-2Dhelp&d=DwIFaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=9PEhQh2k > > VeAsRzsn7AkP-g&m=USNU1Bn6LOj8L27uaaejA9QIy4Z9TjiDs0gYSgRZ2srI9SeHEVH > > URBIIG_LfXUWd&s=0SOims-BsJKOSCU9mEW32yWnBs-wBOLtRYlcpIasIG4&e> > PLEASE do read the posting guide > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.R-2Dproject.or > g_posting-2Dguide.html&d=DwIFaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=9PEhQh2kVeA > sRzsn7AkP-g&m=USNU1Bn6LOj8L27uaaejA9QIy4Z9TjiDs0gYSgRZ2srI9SeHEVHURBII > G_LfXUWd&s=xyxzfc-QdYM7LYtfNIxxfDMOGYyRl-cCo9mC0tfXpE4&e> > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. > > -- > Kevin E. Thorpe > Head of Biostatistics, Applied Health Research Centre (AHRC) Li Ka > Shing Knowledge Institute of St. Michael?s Hospital Assistant > Professor, Dalla Lana School of Public Health University of Toronto > email: kevin.thorpe at utoronto.ca Tel: 416.864.5776 Fax: 416.864.3016 > > ______________________________________________ > R-help at r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__stat.ethz.ch_mail > man_listinfo_r-2Dhelp&d=DwIFaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=9PEhQh2kVeAs > Rzsn7AkP-g&m=USNU1Bn6LOj8L27uaaejA9QIy4Z9TjiDs0gYSgRZ2srI9SeHEVHURBIIG > _LfXUWd&s=0SOims-BsJKOSCU9mEW32yWnBs-wBOLtRYlcpIasIG4&e> PLEASE do read the posting guide > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.R-2Dproject.or > g_posting-2Dguide.html&d=DwIFaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=9PEhQh2kVeA > sRzsn7AkP-g&m=USNU1Bn6LOj8L27uaaejA9QIy4Z9TjiDs0gYSgRZ2srI9SeHEVHURBII > G_LfXUWd&s=xyxzfc-QdYM7LYtfNIxxfDMOGYyRl-cCo9mC0tfXpE4&e> and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. >[[alternative HTML version deleted]] ______________________________________________ R-help at r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__stat.ethz.ch_mailman_listinfo_r-2Dhelp&d=DwIFaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=9PEhQh2kVeAsRzsn7AkP-g&m=USNU1Bn6LOj8L27uaaejA9QIy4Z9TjiDs0gYSgRZ2srI9SeHEVHURBIIG_LfXUWd&s=0SOims-BsJKOSCU9mEW32yWnBs-wBOLtRYlcpIasIG4&ePLEASE do read the posting guide https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.R-2Dproject.org_posting-2Dguide.html&d=DwIFaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=9PEhQh2kVeAsRzsn7AkP-g&m=USNU1Bn6LOj8L27uaaejA9QIy4Z9TjiDs0gYSgRZ2srI9SeHEVHURBIIG_LfXUWd&s=xyxzfc-QdYM7LYtfNIxxfDMOGYyRl-cCo9mC0tfXpE4&eand provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.