If R had remained just S, or even S++, would we be debating how to pronounce?CSAN? I do note in some languages CS is pronounceable. LOL! -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Newmiller <jdnewmil at dcn.davis.ca.us> To: r-help at r-project.org; Kevin Thorpe <kevin.thorpe at utoronto.ca>; Roland Rau <rau at demogr.mpg.de> Cc: R Help Mailing List <r-help at r-project.org> Sent: Wed, May 4, 2022 12:01 pm Subject: Re: [R] Is there a canonical way to pronounce CRAN? I had exposure to CPAN and CTAN before learning R, and then there is MRAN... but with no in-person mentors influencing me I decided not to pronounce the C separately in CRAN. The "CRANberries" website indicates that I am not alone. On May 4, 2022 7:38:13 AM PDT, Kevin Thorpe <kevin.thorpe at utoronto.ca> wrote:>Interesting. > >I have always pronounced it as See-ran. This probably stems from my exposure to other archive like CPAN (perl) and CTAN (TeX) that I have been exposed to. Obviously the latter two acronyms are unpronounceable as words so I generalized the approach to CRAN. > >Kevin > > >> On May 4, 2022, at 7:20 AM, Roland Rau via R-help <r-help at r-project.org> wrote: >> >> Dear all, >> >> I talked with colleagues this morning and we realized that some people (=me) pronounce CRAN like the German word "Kran" (probably pronounced like "cruhn" in English -- if it was a word). >> My colleague pronounced it as "Sea-Ran" or "Sea-Run". The colleague was a student and has worked at the same institution as an R Core Developer and heard it from him personally. >> >> So now I am puzzled. Have I been wrong about 43% of my life? ;-) >> >> Honestly: Is there a unique way how the core developers prounounce CRAN? >> >> Not an urgent question at all but maybe interesting to many of us. >> >> Thanks, >> Roland >> >> -- >> This mail has been sent through the MPI for Demographic ...{{dropped:2}} >> >> ______________________________________________ >> R-help at r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see >> stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help >> PLEASE do read the posting guide R-project.org/posting-guide.html >> and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. >-- Sent from my phone. Please excuse my brevity. ______________________________________________ R-help at r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. [[alternative HTML version deleted]]
Viechtbauer, Wolfgang (NP)
2022-May-04 17:55 UTC
[R] Is there a canonical way to pronounce CRAN?
We would still be getting our S code from Statlib. There still seems to be a server running at lib.stat.cmu.edu but somebody might want to check on it ... Here is an old snapshot from 2000: web.archive.org/web/20000815063825/http://lib.stat.cmu.edu/S Best, Wolfgang>-----Original Message----- >From: R-help [mailto:r-help-bounces at r-project.org] On Behalf Of Avi Gross via R- >help >Sent: Wednesday, 04 May, 2022 19:21 >Cc: r-help at r-project.org >Subject: Re: [R] Is there a canonical way to pronounce CRAN? > >If R had remained just S, or even S++, would we be debating how to >pronounce?CSAN? >I do note in some languages CS is pronounceable. LOL! > >-----Original Message----- >From: Jeff Newmiller <jdnewmil at dcn.davis.ca.us> >To: r-help at r-project.org; Kevin Thorpe <kevin.thorpe at utoronto.ca>; Roland Rau ><rau at demogr.mpg.de> >Cc: R Help Mailing List <r-help at r-project.org> >Sent: Wed, May 4, 2022 12:01 pm >Subject: Re: [R] Is there a canonical way to pronounce CRAN? > >I had exposure to CPAN and CTAN before learning R, and then there is MRAN... but >with no in-person mentors influencing me I decided not to pronounce the C >separately in CRAN. The "CRANberries" website indicates that I am not alone. > >On May 4, 2022 7:38:13 AM PDT, Kevin Thorpe <kevin.thorpe at utoronto.ca> wrote: >>Interesting. >> >>I have always pronounced it as See-ran. This probably stems from my exposure to >other archive like CPAN (perl) and CTAN (TeX) that I have been exposed to. >Obviously the latter two acronyms are unpronounceable as words so I generalized >the approach to CRAN. >> >>Kevin >> >> >>> On May 4, 2022, at 7:20 AM, Roland Rau via R-help <r-help at r-project.org> >wrote: >>> >>> Dear all, >>> >>> I talked with colleagues this morning and we realized that some people (=me) >pronounce CRAN like the German word "Kran" (probably pronounced like "cruhn" in >English -- if it was a word). >>> My colleague pronounced it as "Sea-Ran" or "Sea-Run". The colleague was a >student and has worked at the same institution as an R Core Developer and heard >it from him personally. >>> >>> So now I am puzzled. Have I been wrong about 43% of my life? ;-) >>> >>> Honestly: Is there a unique way how the core developers prounounce CRAN? >>> >>> Not an urgent question at all but maybe interesting to many of us. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Roland
On 05/04/2022 01:21 PM, Avi Gross via R-help wrote:> If R had remained just S, or even S++, would we be debating how to > pronounce CSAN? I do note in some languages CS is pronounceable. LOL! > -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Newmiller > <jdnewmil at dcn.davis.ca.us> To: r-help at r-project.org; Kevin Thorpe > <kevin.thorpe at utoronto.ca>; Roland Rau <rau at demogr.mpg.de> Cc: R Help > Mailing List <r-help at r-project.org> Sent: Wed, May 4, 2022 12:01 pm > Subject: Re: [R] Is there a canonical way to pronounce CRAN? I had > exposure to CPAN and CTAN before learning R, and then there is MRAN... > but with no in-person mentors influencing me I decided not to > pronounce the C separately in CRAN. The "CRANberries" website > indicates that I am not alone. On May 4, 2022 7:38:13 AM PDT, Kevin > Thorpe <kevin.thorpe at utoronto.ca> wrote: >> Interesting. I have always pronounced it as See-ran. This probably >> stems from my exposure to other archive like CPAN (perl) and CTAN >> (TeX) that I have been exposed to. Obviously the latter two acronyms >> are unpronounceable as words so I generalized the approach to CRAN. >> Kevin >>> On May 4, 2022, at 7:20 AM, Roland Rau via R-help >>> <r-help at r-project.org> wrote: Dear all, I talked with colleagues >>> this morning and we realized that some people (=me) pronounce CRAN >>> like the German word "Kran" (probably pronounced like "cruhn" in >>> English -- if it was a word). My colleague pronounced it as >>> "Sea-Ran" or "Sea-Run". The colleague was a student and has worked >>> at the same institution as an R Core Developer and heard it from him >>> personally. So now I am puzzled. Have I been wrong about 43% of my >>> life? ;-) Honestly: Is there a unique way how the core developers >>> prounounce CRAN? Not an urgent question at all but maybe interesting >>> to many of us. Thanks, Roland -- This mail has been sent through the >>> MPI for Demographic ...{{dropped:2}} >>> ______________________________________________ R-help at r-project.org >>> mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see >>> stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the >>> posting guide R-project.org/posting-guide.html and >>> provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.Yes, I know that I'm contributing, but what a waste of band width. -- Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D. molecular-modeling.net 614.312.7528 (c) Skype: smolnar1 [[alternative HTML version deleted]]