> On 1 Jun 2020, at 19:37, Michael Dewey <lists at dewey.myzen.co.uk> wrote: > > You might get better answers on the list dedicated to package development r-pkg-develThis is a good suggestion. Thanks, Michael. Some initial search of that list did not lead to any indication, but I will have a second look. Best regards, Adelchi> > This may have already been discussed there so a quick look at the archive might also help you. > > On 01/06/2020 17:34, Adelchi Azzalini wrote: >> The new version of a package which I maintain will include a new function which I have ported to R from Matlab. >> The documentation of this R function indicates the authors of the original Matlab code, reference to their paper, URL of the source code. >> Question: is this adequate, or should I include them as co-authors of the package, or as contributors, or what else? >> Is there a general policy about this matter? >> Adelchi Azzalini >> http://azzalini.stat.unipd.it/ >> ______________________________________________ >> R-help at r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help >> PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html >> and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. > > -- > Michael > http://www.dewey.myzen.co.uk/home.html
Regardless of whether the people who wrote the Matlab code you used as a reference, or who wrote the paper that published the idea that you included in your package are cited as co-authors of your package, the coders and authors should be identified as the people from whom you borrowed the idea and, or, code for the package that you developed. John John David Sorkin M.D., Ph.D. Professor of Medicine Chief, Biostatistics and Informatics University of Maryland School of Medicine Division of Gerontology and Geriatric Medicine Baltimore VA Medical Center 10 North Greene Street GRECC (BT/18/GR) Baltimore, MD 21201-1524 (Phone) 410-605-7119 (Fax) 410-605-7913 (Please call phone number above prior to faxing) ________________________________ From: R-help <r-help-bounces at r-project.org> on behalf of Adelchi Azzalini <azzalini at stat.unipd.it> Sent: Monday, June 1, 2020 3:17 PM To: Michael Dewey <lists at dewey.myzen.co.uk> Cc: r-help at r-project.org <r-help at r-project.org> Subject: Re: [R] a question of etiquette> On 1 Jun 2020, at 19:37, Michael Dewey <lists at dewey.myzen.co.uk> wrote: > > You might get better answers on the list dedicated to package development r-pkg-develThis is a good suggestion. Thanks, Michael. Some initial search of that list did not lead to any indication, but I will have a second look. Best regards, Adelchi> > This may have already been discussed there so a quick look at the archive might also help you. > > On 01/06/2020 17:34, Adelchi Azzalini wrote: >> The new version of a package which I maintain will include a new function which I have ported to R from Matlab. >> The documentation of this R function indicates the authors of the original Matlab code, reference to their paper, URL of the source code. >> Question: is this adequate, or should I include them as co-authors of the package, or as contributors, or what else? >> Is there a general policy about this matter? >> Adelchi Azzalini >> https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fazzalini.stat.unipd.it%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cd5c4c62072b049c9585308d806607ea8%7C717009a620de461a88940312a395cac9%7C0%7C0%7C637266358807919794&sdata=Q9ZyxKn3BS2K1Sg5K00bb146XiUYqa1cEfSeKzNT1E0%3D&reserved=0 >> ______________________________________________ >> R-help at r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see >> https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstat.ethz.ch%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fr-help&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cd5c4c62072b049c9585308d806607ea8%7C717009a620de461a88940312a395cac9%7C0%7C0%7C637266358807919794&sdata=uIllXVF7AmuyS8iXU%2FWTPBusVvsjopzNuw6j3dWBT08%3D&reserved=0 >> PLEASE do read the posting guide https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.r-project.org%2Fposting-guide.html&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cd5c4c62072b049c9585308d806607ea8%7C717009a620de461a88940312a395cac9%7C0%7C0%7C637266358807919794&sdata=XiD8NHBiP2aEKdlyfUsEnACXVT2lzZauof9ZbtexXFI%3D&reserved=0 >> and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. > > -- > Michael > https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dewey.myzen.co.uk%2Fhome.html&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cd5c4c62072b049c9585308d806607ea8%7C717009a620de461a88940312a395cac9%7C0%7C0%7C637266358807919794&sdata=T9nJx4glgaENYAL2fAfv%2FBSYXJLQB09en0oVIPRZXss%3D&reserved=0______________________________________________ R-help at r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstat.ethz.ch%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fr-help&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cd5c4c62072b049c9585308d806607ea8%7C717009a620de461a88940312a395cac9%7C0%7C0%7C637266358807919794&sdata=uIllXVF7AmuyS8iXU%2FWTPBusVvsjopzNuw6j3dWBT08%3D&reserved=0 PLEASE do read the posting guide https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.r-project.org%2Fposting-guide.html&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cd5c4c62072b049c9585308d806607ea8%7C717009a620de461a88940312a395cac9%7C0%7C0%7C637266358807929745&sdata=VwPw2Ue%2BTBysaEw3uWzWRRHQ2sY2TTfGU%2B8z6de8oZo%3D&reserved=0 and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. [[alternative HTML version deleted]]
> On 1 Jun 2020, at 21:35, Sorkin, John <jsorkin at som.umaryland.edu> wrote: > > Regardless of whether the people who wrote the Matlab code you used as a reference, or who wrote the paper that published the idea that you included in your package are cited as co-authors of your package, the coders and authors should be identified as the people from whom you borrowed the idea and, or, code for the package that you developed. > JohnI have already stated: "The documentation of this R function indicates the authors of the original Matlab code, reference to their paper, URL of the source code." This was not a point in question. The question was was about something additional, possibly: "Question: is this adequate, or should I include them as co-authors of the package, or as contributors, or what else?" regards Adelchi> > > John David Sorkin M.D., Ph.D. > Professor of Medicine > Chief, Biostatistics and Informatics > University of Maryland School of Medicine Division of Gerontology and Geriatric Medicine > Baltimore VA Medical Center > 10 North Greene Street > GRECC (BT/18/GR) > Baltimore, MD 21201-1524 > (Phone) 410-605-7119 > (Fax) 410-605-7913 (Please call phone number above prior to faxing) > > > From: R-help <r-help-bounces at r-project.org> on behalf of Adelchi Azzalini <azzalini at stat.unipd.it> > Sent: Monday, June 1, 2020 3:17 PM > To: Michael Dewey <lists at dewey.myzen.co.uk> > Cc: r-help at r-project.org <r-help at r-project.org> > Subject: Re: [R] a question of etiquette > > > > > On 1 Jun 2020, at 19:37, Michael Dewey <lists at dewey.myzen.co.uk> wrote: > > > > You might get better answers on the list dedicated to package development r-pkg-devel > > This is a good suggestion. Thanks, Michael. > > Some initial search of that list did not lead to any indication, > but I will have a second look. > > Best regards, > > Adelchi > > > > > This may have already been discussed there so a quick look at the archive might also help you. > > > > On 01/06/2020 17:34, Adelchi Azzalini wrote: > >> The new version of a package which I maintain will include a new function which I have ported to R from Matlab. > >> The documentation of this R function indicates the authors of the original Matlab code, reference to their paper, URL of the source code. > >> Question: is this adequate, or should I include them as co-authors of the package, or as contributors, or what else? > >> Is there a general policy about this matter? > >> Adelchi Azzalini > >> https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fazzalini.stat.unipd.it%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cd5c4c62072b049c9585308d806607ea8%7C717009a620de461a88940312a395cac9%7C0%7C0%7C637266358807919794&sdata=Q9ZyxKn3BS2K1Sg5K00bb146XiUYqa1cEfSeKzNT1E0%3D&reserved=0 > >> ______________________________________________ > >> R-help at r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see > >> https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstat.ethz.ch%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fr-help&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cd5c4c62072b049c9585308d806607ea8%7C717009a620de461a88940312a395cac9%7C0%7C0%7C637266358807919794&sdata=uIllXVF7AmuyS8iXU%2FWTPBusVvsjopzNuw6j3dWBT08%3D&reserved=0 > >> PLEASE do read the posting guide https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.r-project.org%2Fposting-guide.html&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cd5c4c62072b049c9585308d806607ea8%7C717009a620de461a88940312a395cac9%7C0%7C0%7C637266358807919794&sdata=XiD8NHBiP2aEKdlyfUsEnACXVT2lzZauof9ZbtexXFI%3D&reserved=0 > >> and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. > > > > -- > > Michael > > https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dewey.myzen.co.uk%2Fhome.html&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cd5c4c62072b049c9585308d806607ea8%7C717009a620de461a88940312a395cac9%7C0%7C0%7C637266358807919794&sdata=T9nJx4glgaENYAL2fAfv%2FBSYXJLQB09en0oVIPRZXss%3D&reserved=0 > > ______________________________________________ > R-help at r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see > https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstat.ethz.ch%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fr-help&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cd5c4c62072b049c9585308d806607ea8%7C717009a620de461a88940312a395cac9%7C0%7C0%7C637266358807919794&sdata=uIllXVF7AmuyS8iXU%2FWTPBusVvsjopzNuw6j3dWBT08%3D&reserved=0 > PLEASE do read the posting guide https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.r-project.org%2Fposting-guide.html&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cd5c4c62072b049c9585308d806607ea8%7C717009a620de461a88940312a395cac9%7C0%7C0%7C637266358807929745&sdata=VwPw2Ue%2BTBysaEw3uWzWRRHQ2sY2TTfGU%2B8z6de8oZo%3D&reserved=0 > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.