R help - May 2020 - [FORGED] Re: pair correlation function of 3D points

On 30/04/20 12:28 am, Eric Leroy wrote:
> Dear all, I am sorry to see all the reactions I provoked from a
> newbie user. Anyway, thank you for the answer I think that the
> pcf3est function responds to my question.
> Indeed the spatstat is a very impressive library and I am very grateful to
the the developers.
(1) Not to worry.  Certainly not your fault!

(2) I'm glad that the pcf3est() function was useful to you.

(3) Thank you for your kind words about spatstat.

(4) But *please* --- spatstat is a *package* not a "library"!!!  A 
library is a *collection* of packages; the library() function "checks 
out" a package from a library, like checking a book out of a
"real"
library (biblioth?que en fran?ais, just in case there is any confusion, 
"library" and "libraire" being false cognates).  But I'm
sure you knew that.

I know that insisting on this distinction is being pedantic --- but it 
never hurts to get things right!  And saying "library" when you mean 
"package" upsets Martin Maechler!!! :-)

cheers,

Rolf

-- 
Honorary Research Fellow
Department of Statistics
University of Auckland
Phone: +64-9-373-7599 ext. 88276

>>>>> Rolf Turner 
>>>>>     on Thu, 30 Apr 2020 10:42:46 +1200 writes:
    > On 30/04/20 12:28 am, Eric Leroy wrote:

    >> Dear all, I am sorry to see all the reactions I provoked from a
    >> newbie user. Anyway, thank you for the answer I think that the
    >> pcf3est function responds to my question.
    >> Indeed the spatstat is a very impressive library and I am very
grateful to the the developers.

    > (1) Not to worry.  Certainly not your fault!

    > (2) I'm glad that the pcf3est() function was useful to you.

    > (3) Thank you for your kind words about spatstat.

    > (4) But *please* --- spatstat is a *package* not a
"library"!!!  A
    > library is a *collection* of packages; the library() function
"checks
    > out" a package from a library, like checking a book out of a
"real"
    > library (biblioth?que en fran?ais, just in case there is any confusion,
    > "library" and "libraire" being false cognates). 
But I'm sure you knew that.

    > I know that insisting on this distinction is being pedantic --- but it 
    > never hurts to get things right!  And saying "library" when
you mean
    > "package" upsets Martin Maechler!!! :-)

Thanks a lot, Rolf!

Well, indeed, I've become a teeny bit wiser with age, so
currently, it's just a little inaudible "ouch", and no longer a
real upsetting ...

And yes
> fortunes::fortune("rrgh")
(3 times...rrrrgh...) and why do you think the mailing list is called
R-*packages* ???????????
Please do
  for(i in 1:20) cat("It's a package!\n")
   -- Martin Maechler (after a newly released *package* has been called
*library* three times in its announcement
      on R-packages)
      R-help (March 2006)
>
so maybe we can close the thread on a bit of a  cheerful tone.

Best, Martin

It may be of some comfort to some readers, that I received emails from
two moderators, telling me that I was....
I acknowledge that my initial email was a mistake.

However, I need to note recent public comments from the author of the
spatstat package:

    Your internet skills are pathetic.

    There is far too much bland "Shhhh.
    We *mustn't* offend anybody" content in current discourse.
    Tell it like it is!
    Ripley into people!
    If the recipient can't take the heat,
    he or she should get out of the kitchen!

    and not whinge about being offended.

https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-help/2019-July/463555.html

In short, everything I said was in accordance with the wishes of the
package authors...