My question is specifically about what I should use in the subject line when replying, because I do not trust mail clients, or to myself as I use different clients sometimes. Hence, I wanted to learn a client free solution to correctly send replies. Now, the posting guide is not explicit about this. Hence my question. So what should I type in the subject line if I want to reply to a specific reply, and not to another reply, so that my reply is nested in the reply I want to reply. That I cannot figure out from the posting guide. On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 7:46 PM, Marc Schwartz <marc_schwartz at me.com> wrote:> >> On Apr 5, 2017, at 11:41 AM, Tunga Kantarc? <tungakantarci at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> OK I cannot figure this out clearly in the guidelines of posting. When >> I reply to a message I should out "Re:" in front of the subject line >> of the original post. So if the subject line of the original post it >> is "this is a post", then I should use "Re: this is a post" in the >> subject line, for my reply to appear under the original post, and not >> in the forum as a new message. >> >> But then I cannot figure out what subject line I should use to reply >> to a given reply. That is, suppose the original subject line is "this >> is a post" and there are replies under the post, and that I want to >> reply to one of the replies. How I specify in the subject line so that >> my reply appears under the reply of a certain person? Or do I have to >> use the reply features of gmail? >> >> Meanwhile, why the guidelines is implicit about this? > > Hi, > > There is an R Posting Guide here: > > https://www.r-project.org/posting-guide.html > > which is a good place to start. > > Generally, if you want to reply to a post and keep the thread intact, always use "reply-all" and that will keep thread participants copied, the post sent to all list subscribers, and the posts in the public archives for future use. > > Most e-mail clients (stand alone or web based) will add the "re:" prefix automatically, if not already present. > > Threads are not kept intact in the list archives based upon the subject line alone, even though some e-mail clients may do so. This is why there can be a change in the subject line when using reply-all and the reply post will be kept with the original thread. > > If, on the other hand, you create a new e-mail and just use "re: the original subject line" in the subject, that will start a new thread in the archive. > > Don't use "reply" only to a post, unless specifically asked, as that will only copy one person, not the list nor the archives, and the communication will only be between you and that person, which is frowned upon. > > Regards, > > Marc >
There is no conclusively client-free solution, which is why it is not in the Posting Guide. However, as a general rule, start with a fresh email to start a thread, and reply-to-all to the message you want to reply to. The threading is managed by hidden message ids, not subjects. -- Sent from my phone. Please excuse my brevity. On April 5, 2017 11:26:27 AM PDT, "Tunga Kantarc?" <tungakantarci at gmail.com> wrote:>My question is specifically about what I should use in the subject >line when replying, because I do not trust mail clients, or to myself >as I use different clients sometimes. Hence, I wanted to learn a >client free solution to correctly send replies. Now, the posting guide >is not explicit about this. Hence my question. So what should I type >in the subject line if I want to reply to a specific reply, and not to >another reply, so that my reply is nested in the reply I want to >reply. That I cannot figure out from the posting guide. > >On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 7:46 PM, Marc Schwartz <marc_schwartz at me.com> >wrote: >> >>> On Apr 5, 2017, at 11:41 AM, Tunga Kantarc? ><tungakantarci at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> OK I cannot figure this out clearly in the guidelines of posting. >When >>> I reply to a message I should out "Re:" in front of the subject line >>> of the original post. So if the subject line of the original post it >>> is "this is a post", then I should use "Re: this is a post" in the >>> subject line, for my reply to appear under the original post, and >not >>> in the forum as a new message. >>> >>> But then I cannot figure out what subject line I should use to reply >>> to a given reply. That is, suppose the original subject line is >"this >>> is a post" and there are replies under the post, and that I want to >>> reply to one of the replies. How I specify in the subject line so >that >>> my reply appears under the reply of a certain person? Or do I have >to >>> use the reply features of gmail? >>> >>> Meanwhile, why the guidelines is implicit about this? >> >> Hi, >> >> There is an R Posting Guide here: >> >> https://www.r-project.org/posting-guide.html >> >> which is a good place to start. >> >> Generally, if you want to reply to a post and keep the thread intact, >always use "reply-all" and that will keep thread participants copied, >the post sent to all list subscribers, and the posts in the public >archives for future use. >> >> Most e-mail clients (stand alone or web based) will add the "re:" >prefix automatically, if not already present. >> >> Threads are not kept intact in the list archives based upon the >subject line alone, even though some e-mail clients may do so. This is >why there can be a change in the subject line when using reply-all and >the reply post will be kept with the original thread. >> >> If, on the other hand, you create a new e-mail and just use "re: the >original subject line" in the subject, that will start a new thread in >the archive. >> >> Don't use "reply" only to a post, unless specifically asked, as that >will only copy one person, not the list nor the archives, and the >communication will only be between you and that person, which is >frowned upon. >> >> Regards, >> >> Marc >> > >______________________________________________ >R-help at r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see >https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help >PLEASE do read the posting guide >http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html >and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
> On Apr 5, 2017, at 1:26 PM, Tunga Kantarc? <tungakantarci at gmail.com> wrote: > > My question is specifically about what I should use in the subject > line when replying, because I do not trust mail clients, or to myself > as I use different clients sometimes. Hence, I wanted to learn a > client free solution to correctly send replies. Now, the posting guide > is not explicit about this. Hence my question. So what should I type > in the subject line if I want to reply to a specific reply, and not to > another reply, so that my reply is nested in the reply I want to > reply. That I cannot figure out from the posting guide.<snip> Hi, Perhaps I am confused. If you have a copy of the post that you want to reply to in any modern e-mail client (desktop or web based), you can just use reply-all. The subject line will be retained, and if not already present, which would be the case for the first post in the thread, the "Re:" prefix will be added. The e-mails of those participating in that particular post will also be retained, as will the list e-mail address. Are you referring to a situation where you no longer have a copy of the post that you want to reply to in your e-mail client, so that you cannot just use reply-all to that specific post? If so, that is a more cumbersome process... Regards, Marc
Thanks a lot. On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 10:23 PM, Jeff Newmiller <jdnewmil at dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:> There is no conclusively client-free solution, which is why it is not in the Posting Guide. > > However, as a general rule, start with a fresh email to start a thread, and reply-to-all to the message you want to reply to. The threading is managed by hidden message ids, not subjects. > -- > Sent from my phone. Please excuse my brevity. > > On April 5, 2017 11:26:27 AM PDT, "Tunga Kantarc?" <tungakantarci at gmail.com> wrote: >>My question is specifically about what I should use in the subject >>line when replying, because I do not trust mail clients, or to myself >>as I use different clients sometimes. Hence, I wanted to learn a >>client free solution to correctly send replies. Now, the posting guide >>is not explicit about this. Hence my question. So what should I type >>in the subject line if I want to reply to a specific reply, and not to >>another reply, so that my reply is nested in the reply I want to >>reply. That I cannot figure out from the posting guide. >> >>On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 7:46 PM, Marc Schwartz <marc_schwartz at me.com> >>wrote: >>> >>>> On Apr 5, 2017, at 11:41 AM, Tunga Kantarc? >><tungakantarci at gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> OK I cannot figure this out clearly in the guidelines of posting. >>When >>>> I reply to a message I should out "Re:" in front of the subject line >>>> of the original post. So if the subject line of the original post it >>>> is "this is a post", then I should use "Re: this is a post" in the >>>> subject line, for my reply to appear under the original post, and >>not >>>> in the forum as a new message. >>>> >>>> But then I cannot figure out what subject line I should use to reply >>>> to a given reply. That is, suppose the original subject line is >>"this >>>> is a post" and there are replies under the post, and that I want to >>>> reply to one of the replies. How I specify in the subject line so >>that >>>> my reply appears under the reply of a certain person? Or do I have >>to >>>> use the reply features of gmail? >>>> >>>> Meanwhile, why the guidelines is implicit about this? >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> There is an R Posting Guide here: >>> >>> https://www.r-project.org/posting-guide.html >>> >>> which is a good place to start. >>> >>> Generally, if you want to reply to a post and keep the thread intact, >>always use "reply-all" and that will keep thread participants copied, >>the post sent to all list subscribers, and the posts in the public >>archives for future use. >>> >>> Most e-mail clients (stand alone or web based) will add the "re:" >>prefix automatically, if not already present. >>> >>> Threads are not kept intact in the list archives based upon the >>subject line alone, even though some e-mail clients may do so. This is >>why there can be a change in the subject line when using reply-all and >>the reply post will be kept with the original thread. >>> >>> If, on the other hand, you create a new e-mail and just use "re: the >>original subject line" in the subject, that will start a new thread in >>the archive. >>> >>> Don't use "reply" only to a post, unless specifically asked, as that >>will only copy one person, not the list nor the archives, and the >>communication will only be between you and that person, which is >>frowned upon. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Marc >>> >> >>______________________________________________ >>R-help at r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see >>https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help >>PLEASE do read the posting guide >>http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html >>and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.