R help - Jul 2015 - Daily Category Revenue-Stacked Bar Chart in ggplot2

Alright, I think I understand what you guys are talking about. It is still
not clear the relationship between R-help and Nabble since you guys haven't
actually answered that. 

Again, the best way to provide proper advice is to actually quote to portion
of the website you are sending people to, i.e., "To post a message to all
the list members, send email to r-help at r-project.org." 

But this still doesn't address the issue of why that is necessary in the
first place. Indeed, when a post is made the user sees the following
message, which seems to indicate that the method of posting doesn't actually
matter: 

"This forum is an archive/gateway which will forward your post to the
r-help at r-project.org mailing list".

Cheers! 





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On Jul 29, 2015, at 1:02 PM, Hidden Markov Model wrote:
> Alright, I think I understand what you guys are talking about. It is still
> not clear the relationship between R-help and Nabble since you guys
haven't
> actually answered that. 
Nabble's relationship to Rhelp? Nabble is an ongoing annoyance to the
regular users and to the list moderators. It's web display format deceives
naive users (who usually fail to read the Posting Guide as they were directed) 
into thinking everyone sees what they see, and so they often fail to maintain
the context of the discussion. Many regular contributors simply ignore the
content from Nabble-originated postings.
> Again, the best way to provide proper advice is to actually quote to
portion
> of the website you are sending people to, i.e., "To post a message to
all
> the list members, send email to r-help at r-project.org." 
> 
> But this still doesn't address the issue of why that is necessary in
the
> first place. Indeed, when a post is made the user sees the following
> message, which seems to indicate that the method of posting doesn't
actually
> matter: 
> 
> "This forum is an archive/gateway which will forward your post to the
> r-help at r-project.org mailing list".
Nabble lies. It is not an archive. I periodically get notices telling me that my
old posts are going to be dropped. The real archive is:
https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-help/

Nabble does forward messages to Rhelp and if a message passes the spam filters
and the human moderators, it gets posted. Nabble then strips off the footers
from the returned messages.

If you want to complain about Nabble not living up to your expectations, you
should contact them. We did not ask them to mirror Rhelp.

You are expected to know how to control your own mail-client. Expecting us to
educate you on the basics of computer use is unreasonable.
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and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.

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David Winsemius
Alameda, CA, USA

Alright thanks for clarifying. That's all a bit esoteric. Quite different
from "basics off computer use".  None of the documentation anyone
mentioned
actually contains any of this. If Nabble is so bad, then why does anyone use
it? It doesn't make sense. You should probably write a wiki going forward so
you won't get upset every-time somebody asks a reasonable question. 



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