After playing around I got everything to work. One problem was with the large pointsizes. I switched to small pointsizes and shrank the plot region. This shrank the gaps and tick lengths down to reasonable values. As for aspect ratio, I think the pty="s" did finally kick in somehow. In the old days this was not required; the dev.print width=, height= took care of that. Cheers, Bill -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.- r-help mailing list -- Read http://www.ci.tuwien.ac.at/~hornik/R/R-FAQ.html Send "info", "help", or "[un]subscribe" (in the "body", not the subject !) To: r-help-request at stat.math.ethz.ch _._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._