On 1/18/23 19:41, Dominick Samperi wrote:> Thanks for the detailed feedback Tomas,
>
> I ran the command 'pacman -Syuu' again, just to be sure, and this
time
> it says "there is nothing to do."
>
> It appears that gdb is working. I was spooked by the diagnostics that
> you say is a known (not serious) issue.
>
> My mistake was not setting a breakpoint on main, so I confused
> problems with gdb with problems with the program I'm trying to debug!
I am glad it works now for you. Please don't forget to include debug
info (for R or packages, depending on what you need to
debug).>
> Incidentally, my remark about mingw-w64 problems in other communities
> alluded to the Haskell development
> community, where an ABI incompatibility was discovered about a year
> ago. It is discussed by Ben Gamari here
> https://gitlab.haskell.org/ghc/ghc/-/issues/19945.
From a quick look it seems to be an incompatibility between two
libraries implementing POSIX regular expressions, essentially a name
clash, they just need to make sure to consistently use one of them. It
is not a problem of MinGW-W64.
Tomas
>
> Dominick
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 18, 2023 at 12:56 PM Tomas Kalibera
> <tomas.kalibera at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 1/18/23 17:39, Dominick Samperi wrote:
>> Thanks,
>>
>> But this didn't work. It installs msys2 along with lots of
other
>> stuff, and gdb would not start as before (missing DLL's).
>>
>> Then I tried to run the command you suggested again, and there
>> was a warning from the package manager about a cycle detected,
>> but now gdb starts with the following messages...
>
> Well, so it did work in the end. You didn't share what was the
> output from the command the first and second time around. Actually
> you have even deleted the command from the thread, so now nobody
> can see it (it was "pacman -Syuu").
>
> In principle, sometimes one has to re-run the update the second
> time when the runtime needs to be updated, and the output says
> that in that case. This is because you are updating Msys2 from
> Msys2 itself. These things are harder on Windows due to file
> locking, hence the need for re-running this.
>
> What happened is probably (but again, I have to be guessing as you
> didn't show the context) that you have installed gdb to an
> outdated Msys2 installation, getting a new version of gdb
> depending on some new runtime shared libraries. By updating Msys2,
> you got the new shared libraries gdb needed and you could run it.
>
>>
>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>> ? File "<string>", ine 3, in <module>
>> ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'libstdcxx'
>> /etc/gdbinit:5: Error in sourced command file:
>> Error while executing Python code.
>
> It is safe and best to ignore this. It is a bug in Msys2 which has
> been reported.
> https://github.com/msys2/MSYS2-packages/issues/2923
>
> Please also note it is documented in
> https://cran.r-project.org/bin/windows/base/howto-R-4.2.html
> (see Additional debugging hints)
>
>>
>> There is also a line...
>>
>> This GDB was configured as "x86_64_pc-msys".
>>
>> (Shouldn't that be msys2?)
>
> No. Msys2 is the name for the whole project. "msys" is the
name of
> one of subsystem, one which uses the msys (cygwin) runtime. It is
> not necessary to understand these details for using
> Msys2/Rtools42, but if you are still interested to know more,
> please refer to Msys2 documentation.
>
>> If I ignore the messages and try to debug a terminal application,
>> there are messages
>> stating that multiple threads are started, and the application
>> accepts no keyboard
>> input, and ultimately must be terminated by closing the window.
> Please really you need to show more context to get help. I am
> using this every day and it works for me, as well as for other
> people. Also, please read the documentation especially if you are
> running into problems:
>
> https://cran.r-project.org/bin/windows/base/howto-R-4.2.html
> https://cran.r-project.org/bin/windows/base/howto-R-devel.html
>
> Problems with keyboard input are probably related to which
> terminal you are using. In some terminals, you would have to use
> winpty (run gdb with winpty) for line editing to work. Please see
> "Additional debugging hints" in the documentation.
>
> In a clean, updated install of Rtools42, with gdb installed as
> documented, no additional tweaks are needed to run gdb from the
> "Rtools42 bash" (mintty terminal running bash from Msys2).
>
>> It appears there are other development communities negatively
>> impacted by
>> the fork to mingw-w64. This did not go smoothly.
>
> I don't understand what you mean. As far as I know, R has been
> using MinGW-W64 (and before that MinGW) from the beginning,
> certainly it has been using MinGW-W64 for many years now. The
> official builds never used MSVC, there was no switching to
> MinGW/MinGW-W64 in the case of R afair, at least not in the recent
> past.
>
> But, in either case, the choice of MinGW-W64 is orthogonal to the
> choice of Msys2 as the provider of the build tools. Rtools42/43
> come also in a compiler toolchain+libraries bundle, without Msys2,
> which in theory you could use with a different set of build tools.
> But you would be on your own to figure out the details.
>
>>
>> Perhaps it would be safer to simply provide a version of Rtools42
>> that comes with
>> gdb and msys2?
>
> Rtools42 comes with Msys2. gdb is not installed there by default,
> because most people don't need it, but it is documented how to
> install it. I've now updated the documentation to always remind to
> update the system before installing any Msys2 packages.
>
> Tomas
>
>>
>> Dominick
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 18, 2023 at 2:40 AM Tomas Kalibera
>> <tomas.kalibera at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 1/18/23 04:33, Dominick Samperi wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > I tried installing gdb into Rtools42 following the
>> instructions here
>> >
https://cran.r-project.org/bin/windows/base/howto-R-4.2.html
>> >
>> > I ran 'pacman -Sy gdb', and the installation
seemed to
>> complete without
>> > problems.
>> >
>> > But gdb could not be started because incorrect DLL
versions
>> were installed,
>> > in particular, the missing DLL's are: msys-ffi-8.dll
and
>> > msys-unistring-5.dll.
>>
>> Try upgrading Msys2 using
>>
>> pacman -Syuu
>>
>> Tomas
>>
>> > Is there an alternative way to install gdb for use with
>> Rtool42?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Dominick
>> >
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