R devel - May 2020 - edit() doubles backslashes when keep.source=TRUE

> On Friday, May 15, 2020, 12:13:04 PM EDT, Dirk Eddelbuettel <edd at
debian.org> wrote:
> On 15 May 2020 at 15:41, Martin Maechler wrote:
> | <whining>
> |
> |??? Why does nobody anymore? help R development by working with
> |??? "R-devel", or at least then the alpha, beta and the
"RC"
> |??? (Release Candidate) versions that we release daily for about one
> |??? month before the final release?
> |
> |??? Notably a highly staffed enterprise such as Rstudio (viz the bug
> |??? report 17800 above), but also others could really help by
> |??? starting to use the "next version" of R on a routine basis
...
> |
> | <whining/>
>
> Seconded. Without testing we can never know. R Core does their part.
>
> I provided weekly Debian binaries. One each for the two alphas releases,
for
> the beta release, for the release candidate.? It is easy to use these, for
> example in a Docker container.
>
> It is also easy to use this on a normal machine as they are standard
(Debian)
> packages: install, try some tests, uninstall, revert to previous version by
> installing that.
>
> Dirk
This is a very reasonably request, and all useRs who benefit from the
tireless work of R-core should consider doing it.? I have considered
it, but compiling R from sources on OS X has been my stumbling block.
At least last time I tried I got stuck at the? Fortran step. It doesn't
 help I have very limited experience compiling? software of the complexity 
of R.? Really, I've only done it within the warm welcoming confines of the
 vagrant image Tomas Kalibera set up for `rchk`.

I also use r-devel on docker, but that isn't very practical for
day-to-day usage, which is what I think we need.

What would it take to generate pre-release binaries for OS X (and Windows)?? I
imagine if such were available the volume of testers would increase
dramatically (at least, I haven't seen them if they exist).? 
Maybe something the R Consortium would consider funding?

Best,

B.

Nightly binary builds of R-devel for macOS are available:
http://mac.r-project.org

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On May 15, 2020, at 12:48 PM, brodie gaslam via R-devel <r-devel at
r-project.org<mailto:r-devel at r-project.org>> wrote:


On Friday, May 15, 2020, 12:13:04 PM EDT, Dirk Eddelbuettel <edd at
debian.org<mailto:edd at debian.org>> wrote:
On 15 May 2020 at 15:41, Martin Maechler wrote:
| <whining>
|
|    Why does nobody anymore  help R development by working with
|    "R-devel", or at least then the alpha, beta and the
"RC"
|    (Release Candidate) versions that we release daily for about one
|    month before the final release?
|
|    Notably a highly staffed enterprise such as Rstudio (viz the bug
|    report 17800 above), but also others could really help by
|    starting to use the "next version" of R on a routine basis ...
|
| <whining/>

Seconded. Without testing we can never know. R Core does their part.

I provided weekly Debian binaries. One each for the two alphas releases, for
the beta release, for the release candidate.  It is easy to use these, for
example in a Docker container.

It is also easy to use this on a normal machine as they are standard (Debian)
packages: install, try some tests, uninstall, revert to previous version by
installing that.

Dirk

This is a very reasonably request, and all useRs who benefit from the
tireless work of R-core should consider doing it.  I have considered
it, but compiling R from sources on OS X has been my stumbling block.
At least last time I tried I got stuck at the  Fortran step. It doesn't
help I have very limited experience compiling  software of the complexity
of R.  Really, I've only done it within the warm welcoming confines of the
vagrant image Tomas Kalibera set up for `rchk`.

I also use r-devel on docker, but that isn't very practical for
day-to-day usage, which is what I think we need.

What would it take to generate pre-release binaries for OS X (and Windows)?  I
imagine if such were available the volume of testers would increase
dramatically (at least, I haven't seen them if they exist).
Maybe something the R Consortium would consider funding?

Best,

B.

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I build windows binaries from source. As of now, the only choice is R-revel
unless I want to monkey around more with Jeroens?s PKGBUILD script (which
is On my to-do list).

It?s pretty straightforward, although I?m seeing a lot of issues with
packages which had explicit calls to LOCALSOFT in configure.win as that
doesn?t exist anymore.

The binaries have passed make check, though. Would it help if I built some
and forwarded it somewhere?

Avi

On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 12:48 PM brodie gaslam via R-devel <
r-devel at r-project.org> wrote:
>
> > On Friday, May 15, 2020, 12:13:04 PM EDT, Dirk Eddelbuettel <
> edd at debian.org> wrote:
> > On 15 May 2020 at 15:41, Martin Maechler wrote:
> > | <whining>
> > |
> > |    Why does nobody anymore  help R development by working with
> > |    "R-devel", or at least then the alpha, beta and the
"RC"
> > |    (Release Candidate) versions that we release daily for about one
> > |    month before the final release?
> > |
> > |    Notably a highly staffed enterprise such as Rstudio (viz the bug
> > |    report 17800 above), but also others could really help by
> > |    starting to use the "next version" of R on a routine
basis ...
> > |
> > | <whining/>
> >
> > Seconded. Without testing we can never know. R Core does their part.
> >
> > I provided weekly Debian binaries. One each for the two alphas
releases,
> for
> > the beta release, for the release candidate.  It is easy to use these,
> for
> > example in a Docker container.
> >
> > It is also easy to use this on a normal machine as they are standard
> (Debian)
> > packages: install, try some tests, uninstall, revert to previous
version
> by
> > installing that.
> >
> > Dirk
>
> This is a very reasonably request, and all useRs who benefit from the
> tireless work of R-core should consider doing it.  I have considered
> it, but compiling R from sources on OS X has been my stumbling block.
> At least last time I tried I got stuck at the  Fortran step. It doesn't
>  help I have very limited experience compiling  software of the complexity
> of R.  Really, I've only done it within the warm welcoming confines of
the
>  vagrant image Tomas Kalibera set up for `rchk`.
>
> I also use r-devel on docker, but that isn't very practical for
> day-to-day usage, which is what I think we need.
>
> What would it take to generate pre-release binaries for OS X (and
> Windows)?  I
> imagine if such were available the volume of testers would increase
> dramatically (at least, I haven't seen them if they exist).
> Maybe something the R Consortium would consider funding?
>
> Best,
>
> B.
>
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Actually, it's not that hard to set up for a source compile for MacOS. The
hard part is to do it precisely like the CRAN binaries so that you can run
binary packages off CRAN, but in other setups you can just build packages from
source.

A stone in the shoe has been that the documentation on mac.r-project.org was
littered with out-of-date information, but it seems that Simon has now cleaned
this up considerably. It should now be possible simply to follow instructions on
http://mac.r-project.org/tools/. I'm sure Simon will be receptive to
information if something doesn't quite work.

-pd
> On 15 May 2020, at 18:48 , brodie gaslam via R-devel <r-devel at
r-project.org> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Friday, May 15, 2020, 12:13:04 PM EDT, Dirk Eddelbuettel <edd at
debian.org> wrote:
>> On 15 May 2020 at 15:41, Martin Maechler wrote:
>> | <whining>
>> |
>> |    Why does nobody anymore  help R development by working with
>> |    "R-devel", or at least then the alpha, beta and the
"RC"
>> |    (Release Candidate) versions that we release daily for about one
>> |    month before the final release?
>> |
>> |    Notably a highly staffed enterprise such as Rstudio (viz the bug
>> |    report 17800 above), but also others could really help by
>> |    starting to use the "next version" of R on a routine
basis ...
>> |
>> | <whining/>
>> 
>> Seconded. Without testing we can never know. R Core does their part.
>> 
>> I provided weekly Debian binaries. One each for the two alphas
releases, for
>> the beta release, for the release candidate.  It is easy to use these,
for
>> example in a Docker container.
>> 
>> It is also easy to use this on a normal machine as they are standard
(Debian)
>> packages: install, try some tests, uninstall, revert to previous
version by
>> installing that.
>> 
>> Dirk
> 
> This is a very reasonably request, and all useRs who benefit from the
> tireless work of R-core should consider doing it.  I have considered
> it, but compiling R from sources on OS X has been my stumbling block.
> At least last time I tried I got stuck at the  Fortran step. It doesn't
> help I have very limited experience compiling  software of the complexity 
> of R.  Really, I've only done it within the warm welcoming confines of
the
> vagrant image Tomas Kalibera set up for `rchk`.
> 
> I also use r-devel on docker, but that isn't very practical for
> day-to-day usage, which is what I think we need.
> 
> What would it take to generate pre-release binaries for OS X (and Windows)?
I
> imagine if such were available the volume of testers would increase
> dramatically (at least, I haven't seen them if they exist).  
> Maybe something the R Consortium would consider funding?
> 
> Best,
> 
> B.
> 
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To discuss this further, we should probably move over to R-sig-mac and change
the subject header.

-pd
> On 15 May 2020, at 19:26 , peter dalgaard <pdalgd at gmail.com>
wrote:
> 
> Actually, it's not that hard to set up for a source compile for
MacOS.....
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Center for Statistics, Copenhagen Business School
Solbjerg Plads 3, 2000 Frederiksberg, Denmark
Phone: (+45)38153501
Office: A 4.23
Email: pd.mes at cbs.dk  Priv: PDalgd at gmail.com