Dear dev team, I was sorry to see the announcement of Duncan about his retirement from maintaining the R Windows build and Rtools. Duncan, thank you incredibly much for your 15 years of devotion and your impressive contribution to the R community as a whole. Thinking about the future, I wondered whether there were plans for the succession of Duncan. Is it the intention to continue providing Rtools and a Windows build, or are these tasks left open for anyone (possibly Microsoft itself) to take them over? And if so, how will the decision be made on that? Cheers Joris -- ----------- Biowiskundedagen 2017-2018 http://www.biowiskundedagen.ugent.be/ ----------- Joris Meys Statistical consultant Ghent University Faculty of Bioscience Engineering Department of Mathematical Modelling, Statistics and Bio-Informatics tel : +32 (0)9 264 61 79 Joris.Meys at Ugent.be ------------------------------- Disclaimer : http://helpdesk.ugent.be/e-maildisclaimer.php [[alternative HTML version deleted]]
Likewise, a hearty THANK YOU from me and the rest of the team at Microsoft for all the work you, Duncan, have put into making R available for Windows users around the world over the past 15 years. I know it wasn't easy (Windows is not without its quirks), but R users everywhere, ourselves included, are deeply appreciative and have benefited greatly. The Microsoft R team is willing and able to produce builds for R on Windows going forward. As Duncan noted, we've been doing this already for some time for MRAN. I'd love to hear thoughts from this community on what that might mean, and Duncan I'll also reach out to you directly off-list. Cheers, # David -----Original Message----- From: R-devel [mailto:r-devel-bounces at r-project.org] On Behalf Of Joris Meys Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 08:28 To: r-devel at r-project.org Subject: [Rd] Duncan's retirement: who's taking over Rtools? Dear dev team, I was sorry to see the announcement of Duncan about his retirement from maintaining the R Windows build and Rtools. Duncan, thank you incredibly much for your 15 years of devotion and your impressive contribution to the R community as a whole. Thinking about the future, I wondered whether there were plans for the succession of Duncan. Is it the intention to continue providing Rtools and a Windows build, or are these tasks left open for anyone (possibly Microsoft itself) to take them over? And if so, how will the decision be made on that? Cheers Joris -- ----------- Biowiskundedagen 2017-2018 https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.biowiskundedagen.ugent.be%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cdavidsmi%40microsoft.com%7C2fd515da9138451611b508d50685822b%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636422092884858146&sdata=BK7GESC6ladsk6cig0ima%2BbdV1sQ5Gdeng%2BhWvtgwj4%3D&reserved=0 ----------- Joris Meys Statistical consultant Ghent University Faculty of Bioscience Engineering Department of Mathematical Modelling, Statistics and Bio-Informatics tel : +32 (0)9 264 61 79 Joris.Meys at Ugent.be ------------------------------- Disclaimer : https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fhelpdesk.ugent.be%2Fe-maildisclaimer.php&data=02%7C01%7Cdavidsmi%40microsoft.com%7C2fd515da9138451611b508d50685822b%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636422092884858146&sdata=PFbW9gv7%2Byi6puj42LyWHPPBqeYd83L3oQunaLTTSnw%3D&reserved=0 [[alternative HTML version deleted]] ______________________________________________ R-devel at r-project.org mailing list https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstat.ethz.ch%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fr-devel&data=02%7C01%7Cdavidsmi%40microsoft.com%7C2fd515da9138451611b508d50685822b%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636422092884858146&sdata=7ZzH9QJUaGLOIR8u2b72PMK6ze7r7hk0mleytyLC7pk%3D&reserved=0
On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 11:27 AM, Joris Meys <jorismeys at gmail.com> wrote:> Dear dev team, > > I was sorry to see the announcement of Duncan about his retirement from > maintaining the R Windows build and Rtools. Duncan, thank you incredibly > much for your 15 years of devotion and your impressive contribution to the > R community as a whole. > > Thinking about the future, I wondered whether there were plans for the > succession of Duncan. Is it the intention to continue providing Rtools and > a Windows build, or are these tasks left open for anyone (possibly > Microsoft itself) to take them over? And if so, how will the decision be > made on that? >Always willing to volunteer someone else, my first thoughts would be to contact Jeroen Ooms and Kevin Ushey. Both, especially Jeroen, were integral to the successful deployemnt of the 4.9.3 version of Rtools. Avi
On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 11:47 AM, David Smith via R-devel <r-devel at r-project.org> wrote:> The Microsoft R team is willing and able to produce builds for R on Windows going forward. As Duncan noted, we've been doing this already for some time for MRAN. I'd love to hear thoughts from this community on what that might mean, and Duncan I'll also reach out to you directly off-list.Hi, David. If the Microsoft R team takes over that responsibility, will they also take over the testing and maintenance of the scripts for building R from source on Windows as Duncan has? Thanks, Avi
David, I think ideally we want to appoint a single person to take primary responsibility for the Windows builds. We are currently discussing this within R Core. We also recognize that Microsoft is a stakeholder in R for Windows. The same is true of other members of the R Consortium. Going forward, it would be useful if all stakeholders could contribute to both support and strategic discussions in this area. best Martyn On Thu, 2017-09-28 at 15:47 +0000, David Smith via R-devel wrote:> Likewise, a hearty THANK YOU from me and the rest of the team at > Microsoft for all the work you, Duncan, have put into making R > available for Windows users around the world over the past 15 years. > I know it wasn't easy (Windows is not without its quirks), but R > users everywhere, ourselves included, are deeply appreciative and > have benefited greatly. > > The Microsoft R team is willing and able to produce builds for R on > Windows going forward. As Duncan noted, we've been doing this already > for some time for MRAN. I'd love to hear thoughts from this community > on what that might mean, and Duncan I'll also reach out to you > directly off-list. > > Cheers, > # David > > -----Original Message----- > From: R-devel [mailto:r-devel-bounces at r-project.org] On Behalf Of > Joris Meys > Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 08:28 > To: r-devel at r-project.org > Subject: [Rd] Duncan's retirement: who's taking over Rtools? > > Dear dev team, > > I was sorry to see the announcement of Duncan about his retirement > from maintaining the R Windows build and Rtools. Duncan, thank you > incredibly much for your 15 years of devotion and your impressive > contribution to the R community as a whole. > > Thinking about the future, I wondered whether there were plans for > the succession of Duncan. Is it the intention to continue providing > Rtools and a Windows build, or are these tasks left open for anyone > (possibly Microsoft itself) to take them over? And if so, how will > the decision be made on that? > > Cheers > Joris > -- > ----------- > > Biowiskundedagen 2017-2018 > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.b > iowiskundedagen.ugent.be%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cdavidsmi%40microsoft.com%7 > C2fd515da9138451611b508d50685822b%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47% > 7C1%7C0%7C636422092884858146&sdata=BK7GESC6ladsk6cig0ima%2BbdV1sQ5Gde > ng%2BhWvtgwj4%3D&reserved=0 > > ----------- > > Joris Meys > Statistical consultant > > Ghent University > Faculty of Bioscience Engineering > Department of Mathematical Modelling, Statistics and Bio-Informatics > > tel : +32 (0)9 264 61 79 > Joris.Meys at Ugent.be > ------------------------------- > Disclaimer : https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http% > 3A%2F%2Fhelpdesk.ugent.be%2Fe- > maildisclaimer.php&data=02%7C01%7Cdavidsmi%40microsoft.com%7C2fd515da > 9138451611b508d50685822b%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7 > C636422092884858146&sdata=PFbW9gv7%2Byi6puj42LyWHPPBqeYd83L3oQunaLTTS > nw%3D&reserved=0 > > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] > > ______________________________________________ > R-devel at r-project.org mailing list > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstat > .ethz.ch%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fr- > devel&data=02%7C01%7Cdavidsmi%40microsoft.com%7C2fd515da9138451611b50 > 8d50685822b%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636422092884 > 858146&sdata=7ZzH9QJUaGLOIR8u2b72PMK6ze7r7hk0mleytyLC7pk%3D&reserved> 0 > > ______________________________________________ > R-devel at r-project.org mailing list > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
I think that even though some Microsoft employees may have good intentions
Microsoft as a company can not be trusted. There will be always a danger that
they will try to create their own version of R which works only on Windows and
that will become increasingly divergent from "other" R. We witnessed
such (cursed in my opinion) attempts with their treatment of Java and Internet
Explorer. So I think that if we want to keep R as one language it is very
important that the person(s) responsible for R on Windows will have no
association with Microsoft.
Best regards,Moshe.
On Friday, 29 September 2017, 1:47:36 am GMT+10, David Smith via R-devel
<r-devel at r-project.org> wrote:
Likewise, a hearty THANK YOU from me and the rest of the team at Microsoft for
all the work you, Duncan, have put into making R available for Windows users
around the world over the past 15 years. I know it wasn't easy (Windows is
not without its quirks), but R users everywhere, ourselves included, are deeply
appreciative and have benefited greatly.
The Microsoft R team is willing and able to produce builds for R on Windows
going forward. As Duncan noted, we've been doing this already for some time
for MRAN. I'd love to hear thoughts from this community on what that might
mean, and Duncan I'll also reach out to you directly off-list.
Cheers,
# David?
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Subject: [Rd] Duncan's retirement: who's taking over Rtools?
Dear dev team,
I was sorry to see the announcement of Duncan about his retirement from
maintaining the R Windows build and Rtools. Duncan, thank you incredibly much
for your 15 years of devotion and your impressive contribution to the R
community as a whole.
Thinking about the future, I wondered whether there were plans for the
succession of Duncan. Is it the intention to continue providing Rtools and a
Windows build, or are these tasks left open for anyone (possibly Microsoft
itself) to take them over? And if so, how will the decision be made on that?
Cheers
Joris
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