Hello!
I keep my local bib file and up to now I had entry
@Manual{R:2003,
title = {R: A Language and Environment for Statistical Computing},
author = {{R Development Core Team}},
organization = {R Foundation for Statistical Computing},
address = {Vienna, Austria},
year = {2005},
note = {{ISBN} 3-900051-00-3},
url = {http://www.R-project.org},
}
With recent versions ISBN changed to 3-900051-07-0. Now I wonder if
there is any canonical way to refer to R without the need to change R
entry over and over. It would probably be the best just to add new entry
for "new version" for R. Now the question is what is new version or
when
does ISBN number change?
Thanks.
--
Lep pozdrav / With regards,
Gregor Gorjanc
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Biotechnical Faculty
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SI-1230 Domzale tel: +386 (0)1 72 17 861
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"One must learn by doing the thing; for though you think you know it,
you have no certainty until you try." Sophocles ~ 450 B.C.
>>>>> On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 07:53:52 +0200, >>>>> Gregor Gorjanc (GG) wrote:> Hello! > I keep my local bib file and up to now I had entry > @Manual{R:2003, > title = {R: A Language and Environment for Statistical Computing}, > author = {{R Development Core Team}}, > organization = {R Foundation for Statistical Computing}, > address = {Vienna, Austria}, > year = {2005}, > note = {{ISBN} 3-900051-00-3}, > url = {http://www.R-project.org}, > } > With recent versions ISBN changed to 3-900051-07-0. It changed with 2.0.0, which is not that recent ... > Now I wonder if there is any canonical way to refer to R without > the need to change R entry over and over. It would probably be the > best just to add new entry for "new version" for R. Now the > question is what is new version or when does ISBN number change? The ISBN changes with every major version of R, i.e., it will change next when 3.0.0 is released. We are already stretching the ISBN rules to the limit (on the no-change-side) with that policy, and the reason is exactly to make the reference more stable. But with a major release we really need to assign a new ISBN. Best, Fritz
Friedrich Leisch wrote:>>>>>> On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 07:53:52 +0200, >>>>>> Gregor Gorjanc (GG) wrote: > > > Hello! > > I keep my local bib file and up to now I had entry > > > @Manual{R:2003, > > title = {R: A Language and Environment for Statistical Computing}, > > author = {{R Development Core Team}}, > > organization = {R Foundation for Statistical Computing}, > > address = {Vienna, Austria}, > > year = {2005}, > > note = {{ISBN} 3-900051-00-3}, > > url = {http://www.R-project.org}, > > } > > > With recent versions ISBN changed to 3-900051-07-0. > > It changed with 2.0.0, which is not that recent ... > > > Now I wonder if there is any canonical way to refer to R without > > the need to change R entry over and over. It would probably be the > > best just to add new entry for "new version" for R. Now the > > question is what is new version or when does ISBN number change? > > The ISBN changes with every major version of R, i.e., it will change > next when 3.0.0 is released. We are already stretching the ISBN rules > to the limit (on the no-change-side) with that policy, and the > reason is exactly to make the reference more stable. But with a major > release we really need to assign a new ISBN.Thank you for this clarifications. As indicated ISBN is not changing very often and I can live with couple of BibTeX entries for R. Thanks! -- Lep pozdrav / With regards, Gregor Gorjanc ---------------------------------------------------------------------- University of Ljubljana PhD student Biotechnical Faculty Zootechnical Department URI: http://www.bfro.uni-lj.si/MR/ggorjan Groblje 3 mail: gregor.gorjanc <at> bfro.uni-lj.si SI-1230 Domzale tel: +386 (0)1 72 17 861 Slovenia, Europe fax: +386 (0)1 72 17 888 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "One must learn by doing the thing; for though you think you know it, you have no certainty until you try." Sophocles ~ 450 B.C.
Forgive me for being naive, but I have not seen any reference where the ISBN was required. The apa style that I use does not require the ISBN. Best, Ioannis ====On Tue, Sep 12, 2006 16:22, Gregor Gorjanc wrote:> Friedrich Leisch wrote: >>>>>>> On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 07:53:52 +0200, >>>>>>> Gregor Gorjanc (GG) wrote: >> >> > Hello! >> > I keep my local bib file and up to now I had entry >> >> > @Manual{R:2003, >> > title = {R: A Language and Environment for Statistical >> Computing}, >> > author = {{R Development Core Team}}, >> > organization = {R Foundation for Statistical Computing}, >> > address = {Vienna, Austria}, >> > year = {2005}, >> > note = {{ISBN} 3-900051-00-3}, >> > url = {http://www.R-project.org}, >> > } >> >> > With recent versions ISBN changed to 3-900051-07-0. >> >> It changed with 2.0.0, which is not that recent ... >> >> > Now I wonder if there is any canonical way to refer to R without >> > the need to change R entry over and over. It would probably be the >> > best just to add new entry for "new version" for R. Now the >> > question is what is new version or when does ISBN number change? >> >> The ISBN changes with every major version of R, i.e., it will change >> next when 3.0.0 is released. We are already stretching the ISBN rules >> to the limit (on the no-change-side) with that policy, and the >> reason is exactly to make the reference more stable. But with a major >> release we really need to assign a new ISBN. > > Thank you for this clarifications. As indicated ISBN is not changing > very often and I can live with couple of BibTeX entries for R. > > Thanks! > > -- > Lep pozdrav / With regards, > Gregor Gorjanc > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > University of Ljubljana PhD student > Biotechnical Faculty > Zootechnical Department URI: http://www.bfro.uni-lj.si/MR/ggorjan > Groblje 3 mail: gregor.gorjanc <at> bfro.uni-lj.si > > SI-1230 Domzale tel: +386 (0)1 72 17 861 > Slovenia, Europe fax: +386 (0)1 72 17 888 > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > "One must learn by doing the thing; for though you think you know it, > you have no certainty until you try." Sophocles ~ 450 B.C. > > ______________________________________________ > R-devel at r-project.org mailing list > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel >-- Ioannis C. Dimakos, Ph.D. University of Patras Department of Elementary Education Patras, GR-26500 GREECE http://www.elemedu.upatras.gr/dimakos/ http://thedailyblahblah.blogspot.com/
Ioannis Dimakos wrote:> Forgive me for being naive, > > but I have not seen any reference where the ISBN was required. The apa > style that I use does not require the ISBN. > > Best, > > IoannisYou can put that part in note field as it is done in output of citation() function. -- Lep pozdrav / With regards, Gregor Gorjanc ---------------------------------------------------------------------- University of Ljubljana PhD student Biotechnical Faculty Zootechnical Department URI: http://www.bfro.uni-lj.si/MR/ggorjan Groblje 3 mail: gregor.gorjanc <at> bfro.uni-lj.si SI-1230 Domzale tel: +386 (0)1 72 17 861 Slovenia, Europe fax: +386 (0)1 72 17 888 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "One must learn by doing the thing; for though you think you know it, you have no certainty until you try." Sophocles ~ 450 B.C.
>>>>> On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 21:22:13 +0300 (EEST), >>>>> Ioannis Dimakos (ID) wrote:> Forgive me for being naive, > but I have not seen any reference where the ISBN was required. The apa > style that I use does not require the ISBN. It is not required for most citation *styles*. The main reason that we assigned an ISBN to R is that some people/journals/departments/... think that software cannot or should not be cited, and in that cases it often helps to have an ISBN, because it "looks more official". And the ISBN rules explicitly state that software should get an ISBN for full references. Best, Fritz