Puppet Labs is happy to announce full support for Ruby 1.9.3 will be part of the next major release of Puppet, codenamed Telly. Ruby 1.8.7 and 1.9.3 are considered the primary supported Ruby versions, on all platforms including Unix, Linux, Windows, and MacOS-X. Ruby 1.8.5 is also supported, on the agent only. The Puppet 2.7 series featured initial support for the Ruby 1.9 series, and we are happy to see that work completed and brought forward to full production support in the forthcoming release. Other Ruby versions including 1.8.6, 1.9.1, and 1.9.2 are not officially supported. Ruby implementations other than the "MRI" series are not officially supported. We will accept patches that fix issues on other (non MRI) Ruby systems. 1.9.3 was selected due to its inclusion in Fedora 17 (Beefy Miracle) and Ubuntu Precise Pangolin. Previews of Telly should be available in May. If you''d like to see some of the changes happening today, you are also welcome to run Puppet''s master branch. If you have questions or concerns, feel free to respond here. Mike Stahnke Community Manager -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-dev@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-dev+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-dev?hl=en.
Great to hear this, but I am now looking for a reliable way to get Ruby 1.8.7 or 1.9.3 onto a RHEL-5 system. The environment I am working still has RHEL 3 and 4 machines running, and I would not hold my breath waiting for transition to RHEL 6 (which does have ruby 1.8.7 in it) One more thing: When I say "reliable", it has to be able to convince a non-technical PHB type. Suggestions ? On Apr 13, 2012, at 2:59 PM, Michael Stahnke wrote:> Puppet Labs is happy to announce full support for Ruby 1.9.3 will be part of > the next major release of Puppet, codenamed Telly. Ruby 1.8.7 and 1.9.3 are > considered the primary supported Ruby versions, on all platforms including > Unix, Linux, Windows, and MacOS-X. Ruby 1.8.5 is also supported, on the agent > only. > > The Puppet 2.7 series featured initial support for the Ruby 1.9 series, and we > are happy to see that work completed and brought forward to full production > support in the forthcoming release. > > Other Ruby versions including 1.8.6, 1.9.1, and 1.9.2 are not officially > supported. Ruby implementations other than the "MRI" series are not officially > supported. We will accept patches that fix issues on other (non MRI) > Ruby systems. > > 1.9.3 was selected due to its inclusion in Fedora 17 (Beefy Miracle) and > Ubuntu Precise Pangolin. > > Previews of Telly should be available in May. If you''d like to see some of the > changes happening today, you are also welcome to run Puppet''s master branch. > > If you have questions or concerns, feel free to respond here. > > Mike Stahnke > Community Manager-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en.
enterprise ruby (1.8.7 only) http://www.rubyenterpriseedition.com/download.html Craig On Apr 14, 2012, at 8:53 PM, Dan White wrote:> Great to hear this, but I am now looking for a reliable way to get Ruby 1.8.7 or 1.9.3 onto a RHEL-5 system. The environment I am working still has RHEL 3 and 4 machines running, and I would not hold my breath waiting for transition to RHEL 6 (which does have ruby 1.8.7 in it) > > One more thing: When I say "reliable", it has to be able to convince a non-technical PHB type. > > Suggestions ? > > On Apr 13, 2012, at 2:59 PM, Michael Stahnke wrote: > >> Puppet Labs is happy to announce full support for Ruby 1.9.3 will be part of >> the next major release of Puppet, codenamed Telly. Ruby 1.8.7 and 1.9.3 are >> considered the primary supported Ruby versions, on all platforms including >> Unix, Linux, Windows, and MacOS-X. Ruby 1.8.5 is also supported, on the agent >> only. >> >> The Puppet 2.7 series featured initial support for the Ruby 1.9 series, and we >> are happy to see that work completed and brought forward to full production >> support in the forthcoming release. >> >> Other Ruby versions including 1.8.6, 1.9.1, and 1.9.2 are not officially >> supported. Ruby implementations other than the "MRI" series are not officially >> supported. We will accept patches that fix issues on other (non MRI) >> Ruby systems. >> >> 1.9.3 was selected due to its inclusion in Fedora 17 (Beefy Miracle) and >> Ubuntu Precise Pangolin. >> >> Previews of Telly should be available in May. If you''d like to see some of the >> changes happening today, you are also welcome to run Puppet''s master branch. >> >> If you have questions or concerns, feel free to respond here. >> >> Mike Stahnke >> Community Manager > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. > To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en. >-- Craig White ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ craig.white@ttiltd.com 1.800.869.6908 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ www.ttiassessments.com Need help communicating between generations at work to achieve your desired success? Let us help! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en.
Have you checked out the packages that Karanbir Singh has created? They work fairly well --> http://centos.karan.org/el5/ruby187/ On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 8:53 PM, Dan White <ygor@comcast.net> wrote:> Great to hear this, but I am now looking for a reliable way to get Ruby > 1.8.7 or 1.9.3 onto a RHEL-5 system. The environment I am working still > has RHEL 3 and 4 machines running, and I would not hold my breath waiting > for transition to RHEL 6 (which does have ruby 1.8.7 in it) > > One more thing: When I say "reliable", it has to be able to convince a > non-technical PHB type. > > Suggestions ? > > On Apr 13, 2012, at 2:59 PM, Michael Stahnke wrote: > > > Puppet Labs is happy to announce full support for Ruby 1.9.3 will be > part of > > the next major release of Puppet, codenamed Telly. Ruby 1.8.7 and 1.9.3 > are > > considered the primary supported Ruby versions, on all platforms > including > > Unix, Linux, Windows, and MacOS-X. Ruby 1.8.5 is also supported, on the > agent > > only. > > > > The Puppet 2.7 series featured initial support for the Ruby 1.9 series, > and we > > are happy to see that work completed and brought forward to full > production > > support in the forthcoming release. > > > > Other Ruby versions including 1.8.6, 1.9.1, and 1.9.2 are not officially > > supported. Ruby implementations other than the "MRI" series are not > officially > > supported. We will accept patches that fix issues on other (non MRI) > > Ruby systems. > > > > 1.9.3 was selected due to its inclusion in Fedora 17 (Beefy Miracle) and > > Ubuntu Precise Pangolin. > > > > Previews of Telly should be available in May. If you''d like to see some > of the > > changes happening today, you are also welcome to run Puppet''s master > branch. > > > > If you have questions or concerns, feel free to respond here. > > > > Mike Stahnke > > Community Manager > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Puppet Users" group. > To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en. > >-- Gary Larizza Professional Services Engineer Puppet Labs -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en.
I would have no problem trying either one of these, but the PHB-objections I face are that these do not come from Red Hat or a "reliable source". They might trust them if they came from PuppetLabs'' repository, but even that is no guarantee. They are inconsistently paranoid about what they will permit into their production environment. They had kittens when I initially pulled Cobbler and Puppet from EPEL, while they build replacements for some packages from source and install from the source build rather than with an RPM. Please tell me if I understand the versioning requirements: I need ruby 1.8.7 or 1.9.3 on the machine acting as Puppet Master. The clients/agents can use ruby 1.8.5 for now. Is that accurate ? On Apr 15, 2012, at 12:03 AM, Craig White wrote:> enterprise ruby (1.8.7 only) > > http://www.rubyenterpriseedition.com/download.html > > CraigOn Apr 15, 2012, at 12:55 AM, Gary Larizza wrote:> Have you checked out the packages that Karanbir Singh has created? They work fairly well --> http://centos.karan.org/el5/ruby187/ > >> On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 8:53 PM, Dan White <ygor@comcast.net> wrote: > Great to hear this, but I am now looking for a reliable way to get Ruby 1.8.7 or 1.9.3 onto a RHEL-5 system. The environment I am working still has RHEL 3 and 4 machines running, and I would not hold my breath waiting for transition to RHEL 6 (which does have ruby 1.8.7 in it) > > One more thing: When I say "reliable", it has to be able to convince a non-technical PHB type. > > Suggestions ? > > On Apr 13, 2012, at 2:59 PM, Michael Stahnke wrote: > > > Puppet Labs is happy to announce full support for Ruby 1.9.3 will be part of > > the next major release of Puppet, codenamed Telly. Ruby 1.8.7 and 1.9.3 are > > considered the primary supported Ruby versions, on all platforms including > > Unix, Linux, Windows, and MacOS-X. Ruby 1.8.5 is also supported, on the agent > > only. > > > > The Puppet 2.7 series featured initial support for the Ruby 1.9 series, and we > > are happy to see that work completed and brought forward to full production > > support in the forthcoming release. > > > > Other Ruby versions including 1.8.6, 1.9.1, and 1.9.2 are not officially > > supported. Ruby implementations other than the "MRI" series are not officially > > supported. We will accept patches that fix issues on other (non MRI) > > Ruby systems. > > > > 1.9.3 was selected due to its inclusion in Fedora 17 (Beefy Miracle) and > > Ubuntu Precise Pangolin. > > > > Previews of Telly should be available in May. If you''d like to see some of the > > changes happening today, you are also welcome to run Puppet''s master branch. > > > > If you have questions or concerns, feel free to respond here. > > > > Mike Stahnke > > Community Manager > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. > To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en. > > > > > -- > > Gary Larizza > Professional Services Engineer > Puppet Labs > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. > To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en.
You might have the best luck going the route of "Well, my puppetmaster needs RHEL6 and that''s the only way it''s supported" because then you get 1.8.7 from an "official source". I completely sympathise with your situation, having been in it before. Your understanding is right to the best of my knowledge, I wouldn''t try and run the master on 1.8.5, but clients should work with the stock RHEL5 Ruby. On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Dan White <ygor@comcast.net> wrote:> I would have no problem trying either one of these, but the PHB-objections > I face are that these do not come from Red Hat or a "reliable source". > They might trust them if they came from PuppetLabs'' repository, but even > that is no guarantee. They are inconsistently paranoid about what they > will permit into their production environment. They had kittens when I > initially pulled Cobbler and Puppet from EPEL, while they build > replacements for some packages from source and install from the source > build rather than with an RPM. > > Please tell me if I understand the versioning requirements: > I need ruby 1.8.7 or 1.9.3 on the machine acting as Puppet Master. > The clients/agents can use ruby 1.8.5 for now. > > Is that accurate ? > > On Apr 15, 2012, at 12:03 AM, Craig White wrote: > > enterprise ruby (1.8.7 only) > > http://www.rubyenterpriseedition.com/download.html > > Craig > > > On Apr 15, 2012, at 12:55 AM, Gary Larizza wrote: > > Have you checked out the packages that Karanbir Singh has created? They > work fairly well --> http://centos.karan.org/el5/ruby187/ > > > > On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 8:53 PM, Dan White <ygor@comcast.net> wrote: > >> Great to hear this, but I am now looking for a reliable way to get Ruby >> 1.8.7 or 1.9.3 onto a RHEL-5 system. The environment I am working still >> has RHEL 3 and 4 machines running, and I would not hold my breath waiting >> for transition to RHEL 6 (which does have ruby 1.8.7 in it) >> >> One more thing: When I say "reliable", it has to be able to convince a >> non-technical PHB type. >> >> Suggestions ? >> >> On Apr 13, 2012, at 2:59 PM, Michael Stahnke wrote: >> >> > Puppet Labs is happy to announce full support for Ruby 1.9.3 will be >> part of >> > the next major release of Puppet, codenamed Telly. Ruby 1.8.7 and >> 1.9.3 are >> > considered the primary supported Ruby versions, on all platforms >> including >> > Unix, Linux, Windows, and MacOS-X. Ruby 1.8.5 is also supported, on >> the agent >> > only. >> > >> > The Puppet 2.7 series featured initial support for the Ruby 1.9 series, >> and we >> > are happy to see that work completed and brought forward to full >> production >> > support in the forthcoming release. >> > >> > Other Ruby versions including 1.8.6, 1.9.1, and 1.9.2 are not officially >> > supported. Ruby implementations other than the "MRI" series are not >> officially >> > supported. We will accept patches that fix issues on other (non MRI) >> > Ruby systems. >> > >> > 1.9.3 was selected due to its inclusion in Fedora 17 (Beefy Miracle) and >> > Ubuntu Precise Pangolin. >> > >> > Previews of Telly should be available in May. If you''d like to see some >> of the >> > changes happening today, you are also welcome to run Puppet''s master >> branch. >> > >> > If you have questions or concerns, feel free to respond here. >> > >> > Mike Stahnke >> > Community Manager >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Puppet Users" group. >> To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en. >> >> > > > -- > > Gary Larizza > Professional Services Engineer > Puppet Labs > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Puppet Users" group. > To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Puppet Users" group. > To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en. >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en.
On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 08:29, Dan White <ygor@comcast.net> wrote:> I would have no problem trying either one of these, but the PHB-objections I > face are that these do not come from Red Hat or a "reliable source". They > might trust them if they came from PuppetLabs'' repository, but even that is > no guarantee. They are inconsistently paranoid about what they will permit > into their production environment. They had kittens when I initially pulled > Cobbler and Puppet from EPEL, while they build replacements for some > packages from source and install from the source build rather than with an > RPM. > > Please tell me if I understand the versioning requirements: > I need ruby 1.8.7 or 1.9.3 on the machine acting as Puppet Master. > The clients/agents can use ruby 1.8.5 for now.That is spot-on. -- Daniel Pittman ⎋ Puppet Labs Developer – http://puppetlabs.com ♲ Made with 100 percent post-consumer electrons -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en.
Michael Stahnke
2012-Apr-16 18:06 UTC
Re: [Puppet Users] Supported Ruby Versions for Telly
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 8:53 PM, Dan White <ygor@comcast.net> wrote:> Great to hear this, but I am now looking for a reliable way to get Ruby 1.8.7 or 1.9.3 onto a RHEL-5 system. The environment I am working still has RHEL 3 and 4 machines running, and I would not hold my breath waiting for transition to RHEL 6 (which does have ruby 1.8.7 in it) > > One more thing: When I say "reliable", it has to be able to convince a non-technical PHB type. > > Suggestions ?Other than the suggestions already listed in this thread, you might just want to not move to Telly. Obviously you''re running things that MUCH older than what telly is setup to do. Another option would be to run Puppet Enterprise (which includes Ruby 1.8.7), but doesn''t support RHEL 3 or 4. I''d probably talk to my boss about what end-of-life really means ;)> > On Apr 13, 2012, at 2:59 PM, Michael Stahnke wrote: > >> Puppet Labs is happy to announce full support for Ruby 1.9.3 will be part of >> the next major release of Puppet, codenamed Telly. Ruby 1.8.7 and 1.9.3 are >> considered the primary supported Ruby versions, on all platforms including >> Unix, Linux, Windows, and MacOS-X. Ruby 1.8.5 is also supported, on the agent >> only. >> >> The Puppet 2.7 series featured initial support for the Ruby 1.9 series, and we >> are happy to see that work completed and brought forward to full production >> support in the forthcoming release. >> >> Other Ruby versions including 1.8.6, 1.9.1, and 1.9.2 are not officially >> supported. Ruby implementations other than the "MRI" series are not officially >> supported. We will accept patches that fix issues on other (non MRI) >> Ruby systems. >> >> 1.9.3 was selected due to its inclusion in Fedora 17 (Beefy Miracle) and >> Ubuntu Precise Pangolin. >> >> Previews of Telly should be available in May. If you''d like to see some of the >> changes happening today, you are also welcome to run Puppet''s master branch. >> >> If you have questions or concerns, feel free to respond here. >> >> Mike Stahnke >> Community Manager > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. > To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en. >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en.
Gary Larizza wrote:> Have you checked out the packages that Karanbir Singh has created? They > work fairly well --> http://centos.karan.org/el5/ruby187/They''re also not updated for recent security vulnerabilities, which should be a concern for anyone deploying them in production. Basically, this means that Telly won''t support el5 as a master, right? -- Todd OpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The most overlooked advantage to owning a computer is that if they foul up, there''s no law against whacking them around a little. -- Eric Porterfield
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Todd Zullinger <tmz@pobox.com> wrote:> Gary Larizza wrote: >> >> Have you checked out the packages that Karanbir Singh has created? They >> work fairly well --> http://centos.karan.org/el5/ruby187/ > > > They''re also not updated for recent security vulnerabilities, which should > be a concern for anyone deploying them in production. > > Basically, this means that Telly won''t support el5 as a master, right?This is my understanding, yes. We''ll support EL5 as a master with Puppet Enterprise, and as an agent with the vendor provided Ruby, but the cost of supporting Ruby 1.8.5 running a Puppet Master is quite high. I know this isn''t ideal, but Ruby 1.8.5 is extremely long in the tooth. -Jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en.
I''d like to recommend the frameos version instead. If you''re going to do it from source, the frameos ruby spec file is much simpler, with much smaller diff files against the distro, and doesn''t compile in a bunch of japanese and Tk stuff. I''ve been updating the spec file to track the latest ruby patchlevel with no other changes, and that works fine for me. https://github.com/frameos/ruby-rpm On Apr 14, 2012, at 9:55 PM, Gary Larizza wrote:> Have you checked out the packages that Karanbir Singh has created? They work fairly well --> http://centos.karan.org/el5/ruby187/ > > > On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 8:53 PM, Dan White <ygor@comcast.net> wrote: > Great to hear this, but I am now looking for a reliable way to get Ruby 1.8.7 or 1.9.3 onto a RHEL-5 system. The environment I am working still has RHEL 3 and 4 machines running, and I would not hold my breath waiting for transition to RHEL 6 (which does have ruby 1.8.7 in it) > > One more thing: When I say "reliable", it has to be able to convince a non-technical PHB type. > > Suggestions ? > > On Apr 13, 2012, at 2:59 PM, Michael Stahnke wrote: > > > Puppet Labs is happy to announce full support for Ruby 1.9.3 will be part of > > the next major release of Puppet, codenamed Telly. Ruby 1.8.7 and 1.9.3 are > > considered the primary supported Ruby versions, on all platforms including > > Unix, Linux, Windows, and MacOS-X. Ruby 1.8.5 is also supported, on the agent > > only. > > > > The Puppet 2.7 series featured initial support for the Ruby 1.9 series, and we > > are happy to see that work completed and brought forward to full production > > support in the forthcoming release. > > > > Other Ruby versions including 1.8.6, 1.9.1, and 1.9.2 are not officially > > supported. Ruby implementations other than the "MRI" series are not officially > > supported. We will accept patches that fix issues on other (non MRI) > > Ruby systems. > > > > 1.9.3 was selected due to its inclusion in Fedora 17 (Beefy Miracle) and > > Ubuntu Precise Pangolin. > > > > Previews of Telly should be available in May. If you''d like to see some of the > > changes happening today, you are also welcome to run Puppet''s master branch. > > > > If you have questions or concerns, feel free to respond here. > > > > Mike Stahnke > > Community Manager > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. > To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en. > > > > > -- > > Gary Larizza > Professional Services Engineer > Puppet Labs > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. > To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en.-- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : consonant endings by net philanthropy, open source and other randomness -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en.