Puppet users - Mar 2011 - Monitoring abstraction and test driven infrastructure deployment

Good afternoon (morning|night) all,
I''ve just posted an article on how I manage automatic monitoring with
Puppet
http://www.example42.com/?q=Test_Driven_Puppet_Infrastructures_deployment 
and besides the shameless spam on this list I''d like to take this
occasion
to raise again a topic discussed with Nigel, Dan and others in the last 
Puppetcamp, in this list and somewhere else in the past.

We all think, I suppose, that Puppet should somehow manage automatically the 
monitoring of the resources it provides.
How this is done is a whole universe of complexity, alternative approaches 
and design decisions.

What I''ve done is an attempt to use standard naming to define what to 
monitor in an abstract way (without reference to the tool actually used for 
monitoring) and a (working in different productions) implementation entirely 
based on Puppet DSL that prefers linearity and extendability over 
performance and optimization of resources.

I think it would be interesting to know how people are dealing with this 
topic and how/when this will eventually implemented directly in Puppet code. 


All the best
Al

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Hi, Al


I am interested to participate the effort to  add system monitoring
function/feature into puppet.

I like following equation ;)

puppet=configuration management + asset management + system monitoring

I am a xymon(hobbit/bb) user, I only see your doc mention nagios, so I
could be helpful.

Should open up wiki page on puppet wiki to document this effort ?
I can do the wiki init work if you agree.

tj

On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Al @ Lab42 <lab42.it@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Good afternoon (morning|night) all,
> I''ve just posted an article on how I manage automatic monitoring
with Puppet
> http://www.example42.com/?q=Test_Driven_Puppet_Infrastructures_deployment
> and besides the shameless spam on this list I''d like to take this
occasion
> to raise again a topic discussed with Nigel, Dan and others in the last
> Puppetcamp, in this list and somewhere else in the past.
>
> We all think, I suppose, that Puppet should somehow manage automatically
the
> monitoring of the resources it provides.
> How this is done is a whole universe of complexity, alternative approaches
> and design decisions.
>
> What I''ve done is an attempt to use standard naming to define what
to
> monitor in an abstract way (without reference to the tool actually used for
> monitoring) and a (working in different productions) implementation
entirely
> based on Puppet DSL that prefers linearity and extendability over
> performance and optimization of resources.
>
> I think it would be interesting to know how people are dealing with this
> topic and how/when this will eventually implemented directly in Puppet
code.
>
> All the best
> Al
>
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On Friday, March 18, 2011 5:33:25 PM UTC+1, T.J. Yang
wrote:
>
> Hi, Al
>
>
> I am interested to participate the effort to  add system monitoring
> function/feature into puppet.
>
> I like following equation ;)
>
> puppet=configuration management + asset management + system monitoring
>
Yeah, I totally agree,

I am a xymon(hobbit/bb) user, I only see your doc mention nagios, so
I
> could be helpful.
>
Interesting. If you want contact me privately, if you give me few quick 
hints and best practices on how to configure Xymon I think I can do the 
connector and the relevant module quite quickly. 
> Should open up wiki page on puppet wiki to document this effort ?
> I can do the wiki init work if you agree.
>
Well, why not, but I think we should ask to the PuppetLabs guys.
While generally the monitoring automation and abstraction is something 
probably interesting for everybody, my own implementation implies choices 
that might not be generally approved.

All the best
Al 

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