Now, even though no changes have occurred, I''m getting a report like this every time it runs: Tue Mar 09 00:51:25 -0500 2010 Puppet (info): Applying configuration version ''1268079838'' What am I to do? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en.
Michael DeHaan
2010-Mar-09 15:01 UTC
Re: [Puppet Users] Tons of "configuration version" reports
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 2:03 AM, Kent Rankin <rankin.kent@gmail.com> wrote:> Now, even though no changes have occurred, I''m getting a report like > this every time it runs: > > Tue Mar 09 00:51:25 -0500 2010 Puppet (info): Applying configuration > version ''1268079838'' > > What am I to do? > > > Thanks. >Are you saying this is new behavior with the reports (judging from the "now"?) where before it would only report if something changed? I know lots of folks will run tmpwatch against the report directory, but I would generally agree a no-change report should probably not fill up the directory... though I would also like to know that the run happened. Complicated :) It''s come up before that we should keep trending data (last run, when run, changes made) seperate from some of the detailed information so that when reports are cleaned up we don''t have to get rid of all of that data. --Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en.
Kent Rankin
2010-Mar-09 16:35 UTC
Re: [Puppet Users] Tons of "configuration version" reports
This started about three days after I upgraded to 0.25 on EPEL. That time delay confused me a great deal. Is this the standard behavior on 0.25? Is there a configuration option to have it only show when changes are made? Thanks. On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Michael DeHaan <michael@reductivelabs.com> wrote:> On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 2:03 AM, Kent Rankin <rankin.kent@gmail.com> wrote: >> Now, even though no changes have occurred, I''m getting a report like >> this every time it runs: >> >> Tue Mar 09 00:51:25 -0500 2010 Puppet (info): Applying configuration >> version ''1268079838'' >> >> What am I to do? >> >> >> Thanks. >> > > Are you saying this is new behavior with the reports (judging from the > "now"?) where before it would only report if something changed? > > I know lots of folks will run tmpwatch against the report directory, > but I would generally agree a no-change report should probably > not fill up the directory... though I would also like to know that the > run happened. Complicated :) > > It''s come up before that we should keep trending data (last run, when > run, changes made) seperate from some of the detailed information > so that when reports are cleaned up we don''t have to get rid of all of > that data. > > --Michael > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. > To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en. > >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en.
R.I.Pienaar
2010-Mar-09 16:40 UTC
Re: [Puppet Users] Tons of "configuration version" reports
----- "Kent Rankin" <rankin.kent@gmail.com> wrote:> This started about three days after I upgraded to 0.25 on EPEL. That > time delay confused me a great deal. > > Is this the standard behavior on 0.25? Is there a configuration > option to have it only show when changes are made? >There''s a configuration option, its broken. The feature in 25 lets you tag a manifest with a version and the version is supposed to show up in reports and logs and so forth. you can specify a different way than the default (current timestamp) with config_version option on the master but its broken. You''d want to make it log your SVN revision for example alas its broken and the ticket is unloved. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en.
Kent Rankin
2010-Mar-09 18:15 UTC
Re: [Puppet Users] Tons of "configuration version" reports
Just a question, though... I''m getting that report on *EVERY* run, and by that, I mean to say that no changes have been made. It''s just throwing the same version over and over again. Is that normal? Thanks. On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 11:40 AM, R.I.Pienaar <rip@devco.net> wrote:> > ----- "Kent Rankin" <rankin.kent@gmail.com> wrote: > >> This started about three days after I upgraded to 0.25 on EPEL. That >> time delay confused me a great deal. >> >> Is this the standard behavior on 0.25? Is there a configuration >> option to have it only show when changes are made? >> > > There''s a configuration option, its broken. > > The feature in 25 lets you tag a manifest with a version and the version is supposed to show up in reports and logs and so forth. you can specify a different way than the default (current timestamp) with config_version option on the master but its broken. You''d want to make it log your SVN revision for example > > alas its broken and the ticket is unloved. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. > To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en. > >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en.
R.I.Pienaar
2010-Mar-09 18:36 UTC
Re: [Puppet Users] Tons of "configuration version" reports
hello, ----- "Kent Rankin" <rankin.kent@gmail.com> wrote:> Just a question, though... I''m getting that report on *EVERY* run, > and by that, I mean to say that no changes have been made. It''s just > throwing the same version over and over again. >with report do you mean a log in syslog? Every run is a new compiled catalog, and by default the ''version'' of that compiled catelog is compile time.> Is that normal?it''s default yes, had the config option worked you could have made a static thing - it will still log that line though the line just wont change between runs till your manifests change. This is assuming you''re just talking about the syslog lines here -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en.
Kent Rankin
2010-Mar-09 18:41 UTC
Re: [Puppet Users] Tons of "configuration version" reports
Here''s what I''m seeing in syslog: Mar 9 12:23:52 XXXX puppetd[10249]: Caching catalog for XXXX Mar 9 12:23:52 XXXX puppetd[10249]: Applying configuration version ''1268079838'' Mar 9 12:23:56 XXXX puppetd[10249]: Value of ''preferred_serialization_format'' (pson) is invalid for report, using default (marshal) Mar 9 12:23:57 XXXX puppetd[10249]: Reporting failed: end of file reached Mar 9 12:23:57 XXXX puppetd[10249]: Finished catalog run in 4.60 seconds Mar 9 12:53:57 XXXX puppetd[10249]: Caching catalog for XXXX Here''s the emailed report: Tue Mar 09 13:24:03 -0500 2010 Puppet (info): Applying configuration version ''1268079838'' The emailed report comes in every 30 minutes, just like that, without making any changes on the client. This doesn''t seem like how it should function. Thanks for your help. On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 1:36 PM, R.I.Pienaar <rip@devco.net> wrote:> hello, > > ----- "Kent Rankin" <rankin.kent@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Just a question, though... I''m getting that report on *EVERY* run, >> and by that, I mean to say that no changes have been made. It''s just >> throwing the same version over and over again. >> > > with report do you mean a log in syslog? Every run is a new compiled catalog, and by default the ''version'' of that compiled catelog is compile time. > >> Is that normal? > > it''s default yes, had the config option worked you could have made a static thing - it will still log that line though the line just wont change between runs till your manifests change. This is assuming you''re just talking about the syslog lines here > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. > To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en. > >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en.
R.I.Pienaar
2010-Mar-09 18:45 UTC
Re: [Puppet Users] Tons of "configuration version" reports
hello, ----- "Kent Rankin" <rankin.kent@gmail.com> wrote:> > Tue Mar 09 13:24:03 -0500 2010 Puppet (info): Applying configuration > version ''1268079838'' > > The emailed report comes in every 30 minutes, just like that, without > making any changes on the client. This doesn''t seem like how it > should function.right, then that is something you should file as a bug - it might be that it wont report every time if the config option worked so hard to say what it is, but this shouldnt happen. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en.
Todd Zullinger
2010-Mar-09 19:39 UTC
Re: [Puppet Users] Tons of "configuration version" reports
R.I.Pienaar wrote:> There''s a configuration option, its broken. > > The feature in 25 lets you tag a manifest with a version and the > version is supposed to show up in reports and logs and so forth. > you can specify a different way than the default (current timestamp) > with config_version option on the master but its broken. You''d want > to make it log your SVN revision for example > > alas its broken and the ticket is unloved.Huh. I have 0.25.4 running and use config_version to spit out the git revision. It seems to work for me so I never dug around in redmine for reports to the contrary. In puppet.conf I have: config_version = ''git --git-dir /etc/puppet/.git rev-parse --short HEAD 2>/dev/null || echo'' And that outputs: info: Applying configuration version ''2d02e81'' Do you happen to know the bug number? A quick search in redmine shows a few revisions that close some bugs, but I didn''t find and open bugs mentioning "config_version". -- Todd OpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Wedding is destiny, and hanging likewise. -- John Heywood
R.I.Pienaar
2010-Mar-09 19:52 UTC
Re: [Puppet Users] Tons of "configuration version" reports
hey, ----- "Todd Zullinger" <tmz@pobox.com> wrote:> R.I.Pienaar wrote: > > There''s a configuration option, its broken. > > > > The feature in 25 lets you tag a manifest with a version and the > > version is supposed to show up in reports and logs and so forth. > > you can specify a different way than the default (current > timestamp) > > with config_version option on the master but its broken. You''d want > >to make it log your SVN revision for example > > alas its broken and the ticket is unloved. > > Huh. I have 0.25.4 running and use config_version to spit out the > git revision. It seems to work for me so I never dug around in redmine > for reports to the contrary. > > In puppet.conf I have: > > config_version = ''git --git-dir /etc/puppet/.git rev-parse --short > HEAD 2>/dev/null || echo'' > > And that outputs: > > info: Applying configuration version ''2d02e81'' > > Do you happen to know the bug number? A quick search in redmine shows > a few revisions that close some bugs, but I didn''t find and open bugs > mentioning "config_version".http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/3043 it seems to be related to the ongoing pain with execs -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en.
James Turnbull
2010-Mar-09 20:04 UTC
Re: [Puppet Users] Tons of "configuration version" reports
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 10/03/10 3:40 AM, R.I.Pienaar wrote:> > ----- "Kent Rankin" <rankin.kent@gmail.com> wrote: > >> This started about three days after I upgraded to 0.25 on EPEL. That >> time delay confused me a great deal. >> >> Is this the standard behavior on 0.25? Is there a configuration >> option to have it only show when changes are made? >> > > There''s a configuration option, its broken. > > The feature in 25 lets you tag a manifest with a version and the version is supposed to show up in reports and logs and so forth. you can specify a different way than the default (current timestamp) with config_version option on the master but its broken. You''d want to make it log your SVN revision for example > > alas its broken and the ticket is unloved. >Now, now http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/3043 isn''t unloved.... :) It''s assigned to the next stable release - 0.25.5. I''ve even now assigned it to an actual person - who may mind you tell me to sod off - but it''s on track to be fixed. James - -- Author of: * Pro Linux System Administration (http://tinyurl.com/linuxadmin) * Pulling Strings with Puppet (http://tinyurl.com/pupbook) * Pro Nagios 2.0 (http://tinyurl.com/pronagios) * Hardening Linux (http://tinyurl.com/hardeninglinux) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEVAwUBS5ap2SFa/lDkFHAyAQKDgQgA5XHiWPi3gE5/DF75Qf5QxWy6fVex8T6T UWUGd5OzJ9xTrshKHktZl/ZGK+dL1lmz0oCvFp05lJwy9C1fI6vtBryCM35ZwZOI UUP/Q4+Ud5Am4so12EXG9cAY+B0CP2mLWPCglqJ0uMBrrHw0/uAt4RdFrz0uLOhT hlrHe2nGejivYffLeM0zJvyOAOc6j1UjXZmTHHXXzasNdSPqom/KlB4ukfNsioUE yM8zZ9xyHJBWgtQoUXiA0kvuoY5wdIPPkuhjvRpicr9ersoLYhqGxxtIuTFFq98c LjovLS2S3Z01fMNemzq7gscpyj8fJx37q8NC0DEkiP9PrEEZahMZ1A==hxpH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en.
Kent Rankin
2010-Mar-09 20:07 UTC
Re: [Puppet Users] Tons of "configuration version" reports
When is 0.25.5 scheduled to be fixed? If it''s not very soon, we''re going to have to jump on the CFEngine bandwagon. Thanks. On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 3:04 PM, James Turnbull <james@lovedthanlost.net> wrote:> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 10/03/10 3:40 AM, R.I.Pienaar wrote: >> >> ----- "Kent Rankin" <rankin.kent@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> This started about three days after I upgraded to 0.25 on EPEL. That >>> time delay confused me a great deal. >>> >>> Is this the standard behavior on 0.25? Is there a configuration >>> option to have it only show when changes are made? >>> >> >> There''s a configuration option, its broken. >> >> The feature in 25 lets you tag a manifest with a version and the version is supposed to show up in reports and logs and so forth. you can specify a different way than the default (current timestamp) with config_version option on the master but its broken. You''d want to make it log your SVN revision for example >> >> alas its broken and the ticket is unloved. >> > > Now, now http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/3043 isn''t > unloved.... :) > > It''s assigned to the next stable release - 0.25.5. I''ve even now > assigned it to an actual person - who may mind you tell me to sod > off - but it''s on track to be fixed. > > James > > - -- > Author of: > * Pro Linux System Administration (http://tinyurl.com/linuxadmin) > * Pulling Strings with Puppet (http://tinyurl.com/pupbook) > * Pro Nagios 2.0 (http://tinyurl.com/pronagios) > * Hardening Linux (http://tinyurl.com/hardeninglinux) > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iQEVAwUBS5ap2SFa/lDkFHAyAQKDgQgA5XHiWPi3gE5/DF75Qf5QxWy6fVex8T6T > UWUGd5OzJ9xTrshKHktZl/ZGK+dL1lmz0oCvFp05lJwy9C1fI6vtBryCM35ZwZOI > UUP/Q4+Ud5Am4so12EXG9cAY+B0CP2mLWPCglqJ0uMBrrHw0/uAt4RdFrz0uLOhT > hlrHe2nGejivYffLeM0zJvyOAOc6j1UjXZmTHHXXzasNdSPqom/KlB4ukfNsioUE > yM8zZ9xyHJBWgtQoUXiA0kvuoY5wdIPPkuhjvRpicr9ersoLYhqGxxtIuTFFq98c > LjovLS2S3Z01fMNemzq7gscpyj8fJx37q8NC0DEkiP9PrEEZahMZ1A=> =hxpH > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. > To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en. > >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en.
Todd Zullinger
2010-Mar-09 20:12 UTC
Re: [Puppet Users] Tons of "configuration version" reports
R.I.Pienaar wrote:> http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/3043 > > it seems to be related to the ongoing pain with execsAhh, I think I may have run into that and that''s why I ended up with the commands in the config_version directly. It''s been a while since I set that up to test so I''d forgotten. Thanks for the pointer to the bug. -- Todd OpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ So I don''t get hurt?! That''s the best you can come up with you dull-witted termagant! -- Stewie Griffin, on why he needs a car seat
James Turnbull
2010-Mar-09 20:18 UTC
Re: [Puppet Users] Tons of "configuration version" reports
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 10/03/10 7:12 AM, Todd Zullinger wrote:> R.I.Pienaar wrote: >> http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/3043 >> >> it seems to be related to the ongoing pain with execs > > Ahh, I think I may have run into that and that''s why I ended up with > the commands in the config_version directly. It''s been a while since > I set that up to test so I''d forgotten. Thanks for the pointer to the > bug. >Todd Do you get a report each time without a value specified in config_version? James - -- Author of: * Pro Linux System Administration (http://tinyurl.com/linuxadmin) * Pulling Strings with Puppet (http://tinyurl.com/pupbook) * Pro Nagios 2.0 (http://tinyurl.com/pronagios) * Hardening Linux (http://tinyurl.com/hardeninglinux) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEVAwUBS5atDCFa/lDkFHAyAQLheQf+Khveuug3RBxpNh96cD27rMmI9DGQ63q4 hDZVRLp8T13p2ARmmKNSeIuv5u7+4Mv6Dc0UZjyP6n+/+RcggI+6VJfcMX7CN5lT Uj/lGEc5gNe4bmkiVpWOsRpvr6fIOZr8WDZK3dvPHGWj+izXwoVMk4QHpqdhRIcD uCgp9qpXpJstqawygbnuzainBxQmGk3qm2AnRDigy/La0/B+LLpYw4iZdLWrRtRl 9VuOl3Wf6B3IES6qZRYnirrxTzqoD3x+CF3T1iv+tVRBxc2YabdD9LJOIFxb1VDE iBAA4XWjYafY//I7J3n56HfFbHUhl+cbhEUYS8nbx5adQ7VQO9EW9Q==kK3j -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en.
Nigel Kersten
2010-Mar-09 20:23 UTC
Re: [Puppet Users] Tons of "configuration version" reports
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Kent Rankin <rankin.kent@gmail.com> wrote:> When is 0.25.5 scheduled to be fixed? If it''s not very soon, we''re > going to have to jump on the CFEngine bandwagon.Just for this feature? If it''s that critical to you, wouldn''t providing a patch be a more productive use of your time rather than converting your entire config management system?> > > Thanks. > > > On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 3:04 PM, James Turnbull <james@lovedthanlost.net> wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 10/03/10 3:40 AM, R.I.Pienaar wrote: >>> >>> ----- "Kent Rankin" <rankin.kent@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> This started about three days after I upgraded to 0.25 on EPEL. That >>>> time delay confused me a great deal. >>>> >>>> Is this the standard behavior on 0.25? Is there a configuration >>>> option to have it only show when changes are made? >>>> >>> >>> There''s a configuration option, its broken. >>> >>> The feature in 25 lets you tag a manifest with a version and the version is supposed to show up in reports and logs and so forth. you can specify a different way than the default (current timestamp) with config_version option on the master but its broken. You''d want to make it log your SVN revision for example >>> >>> alas its broken and the ticket is unloved. >>> >> >> Now, now http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/3043 isn''t >> unloved.... :) >> >> It''s assigned to the next stable release - 0.25.5. I''ve even now >> assigned it to an actual person - who may mind you tell me to sod >> off - but it''s on track to be fixed. >> >> James >> >> - -- >> Author of: >> * Pro Linux System Administration (http://tinyurl.com/linuxadmin) >> * Pulling Strings with Puppet (http://tinyurl.com/pupbook) >> * Pro Nagios 2.0 (http://tinyurl.com/pronagios) >> * Hardening Linux (http://tinyurl.com/hardeninglinux) >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) >> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ >> >> iQEVAwUBS5ap2SFa/lDkFHAyAQKDgQgA5XHiWPi3gE5/DF75Qf5QxWy6fVex8T6T >> UWUGd5OzJ9xTrshKHktZl/ZGK+dL1lmz0oCvFp05lJwy9C1fI6vtBryCM35ZwZOI >> UUP/Q4+Ud5Am4so12EXG9cAY+B0CP2mLWPCglqJ0uMBrrHw0/uAt4RdFrz0uLOhT >> hlrHe2nGejivYffLeM0zJvyOAOc6j1UjXZmTHHXXzasNdSPqom/KlB4ukfNsioUE >> yM8zZ9xyHJBWgtQoUXiA0kvuoY5wdIPPkuhjvRpicr9ersoLYhqGxxtIuTFFq98c >> LjovLS2S3Z01fMNemzq7gscpyj8fJx37q8NC0DEkiP9PrEEZahMZ1A=>> =hxpH >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. >> To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. > To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en. > >-- nigel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en.
Todd Zullinger
2010-Mar-09 20:53 UTC
Re: [Puppet Users] Tons of "configuration version" reports
James Turnbull wrote:> Do you get a report each time without a value specified in > config_version?Yes. With config_version commented out in puppet.conf, I get a report using the timestamp even if nothing has changed. With a command set for config_version, I also get a report when nothing has changed. -- Todd OpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Those of you who think you know everything are annoying to those of us who do.
Todd Zullinger
2010-Mar-09 21:07 UTC
Re: [Puppet Users] Tons of "configuration version" reports
I wrote:> James Turnbull wrote: >> Do you get a report each time without a value specified in >> config_version? > > Yes. With config_version commented out in puppet.conf, I get a report > using the timestamp even if nothing has changed. With a command set > for config_version, I also get a report when nothing has changed.Though perhaps I should have tested more patiently. That was with puppetd -t, which implies --verbose. Waiting for a normal puppet run or using the equivalent options to --test, less --verbose, e.g.: puppetd --onetime --ignorecache --no-daemonize --no-usecacheonfailure I don''t get a report in either case when nothing changes. Sorry for the false report. Ken, are you running puppet as a daemon or via cron? Is the verbose option set in your configuration or on the command line? -- Todd OpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Let us think the unthinkable, let us do the undoable. Let us prepare to grapple with the ineffable itself, and see if we may not eff it after all. -- Douglas Adams
Kent Rankin
2010-Mar-09 21:25 UTC
Re: [Puppet Users] Tons of "configuration version" reports
Installed the EPEL package... it runs it as a daemon without options. Here''s the output from ps -ef|grep puppet: root 10249 1 0 Mar08 ? 00:02:17 /usr/bin/ruby /usr/sbin/puppetd --verbose Thanks. On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 4:07 PM, Todd Zullinger <tmz@pobox.com> wrote:> I wrote: >> James Turnbull wrote: >>> Do you get a report each time without a value specified in >>> config_version? >> >> Yes. With config_version commented out in puppet.conf, I get a report >> using the timestamp even if nothing has changed. With a command set >> for config_version, I also get a report when nothing has changed. > > Though perhaps I should have tested more patiently. That was with > puppetd -t, which implies --verbose. Waiting for a normal puppet run > or using the equivalent options to --test, less --verbose, e.g.: > > puppetd --onetime --ignorecache --no-daemonize --no-usecacheonfailure > > I don''t get a report in either case when nothing changes. > > Sorry for the false report. > > Ken, are you running puppet as a daemon or via cron? Is the verbose > option set in your configuration or on the command line? > > -- > Todd OpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Let us think the unthinkable, let us do the undoable. Let us prepare > to grapple with the ineffable itself, and see if we may not eff it > after all. > -- Douglas Adams > >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en.
Todd Zullinger
2010-Mar-09 21:57 UTC
Re: [Puppet Users] Tons of "configuration version" reports
Kent Rankin wrote:> Installed the EPEL package... it runs it as a daemon without options. > Here''s the output from ps -ef|grep puppet: > > root 10249 1 0 Mar08 ? 00:02:17 /usr/bin/ruby > /usr/sbin/puppetd --verboseThat --verbose is what''s causing this I think. That''s not part of the default EPEL setup AFAIK. What is the output of rpm -V puppet ? If /etc/sysconfig/puppet is modified, check if verbose is added to the puppet options there. Also check in /etc/puppet/puppet.conf for verbose = true (though that wouldn''t manifest itself in the command line options). -- Todd OpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The chains of habit are too weak to be felt until they are too strong to be broken -- Samuel Johnson (1709-1784)
Kent Rankin
2010-Mar-09 22:14 UTC
Re: [Puppet Users] Tons of "configuration version" reports
[root@XXXX ~]# rpm -V puppet
S.5....T c /etc/puppet/puppet.conf
[root@XXXX ~]# grep verbose /etc/init.d/puppet
[root@XXXX ~]# grep verbose /etc/sysconfig/puppet
[root@XXXX ~]# cat /etc/sysconfig/puppet
# The puppetmaster server
#PUPPET_SERVER=puppet
# If you wish to specify the port to connect to do so here
#PUPPET_PORT=8140
# Where to log to. Specify syslog to send log messages to the system log.
#PUPPET_LOG=/var/log/puppet/puppet.log
# You may specify other parameters to the puppet client here
#PUPPET_EXTRA_OPTS=--waitforcert=500
I''m not really seeing anything giving it the verbose option...
nothing''s been modified from EPEL other than the
/etc/puppet/puppetd.conf line:
report = true
Thanks.
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Todd Zullinger <tmz@pobox.com>
wrote:> Kent Rankin wrote:
>> Installed the EPEL package... it runs it as a daemon without options.
>> Here''s the output from ps -ef|grep puppet:
>>
>> root 10249 1 0 Mar08 ? 00:02:17 /usr/bin/ruby
>> /usr/sbin/puppetd --verbose
>
> That --verbose is what''s causing this I think. That''s
not part of the
> default EPEL setup AFAIK. What is the output of rpm -V puppet ? If
> /etc/sysconfig/puppet is modified, check if verbose is added to the
> puppet options there.
>
> Also check in /etc/puppet/puppet.conf for verbose = true (though that
> wouldn''t manifest itself in the command line options).
>
> --
> Todd OpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> The chains of habit are too weak to be felt until they are too strong
> to be broken
> -- Samuel Johnson (1709-1784)
>
>
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Todd Zullinger
2010-Mar-09 22:34 UTC
Re: [Puppet Users] Tons of "configuration version" reports
Kent Rankin wrote:> [root@XXXX ~]# rpm -V puppet > S.5....T c /etc/puppet/puppet.conf > [root@XXXX ~]# grep verbose /etc/init.d/puppet > [root@XXXX ~]# grep verbose /etc/sysconfig/puppet > [root@XXXX ~]# cat /etc/sysconfig/puppet > # The puppetmaster server > #PUPPET_SERVER=puppet > > # If you wish to specify the port to connect to do so here > #PUPPET_PORT=8140 > > # Where to log to. Specify syslog to send log messages to the system log. > #PUPPET_LOG=/var/log/puppet/puppet.log > > # You may specify other parameters to the puppet client here > #PUPPET_EXTRA_OPTS=--waitforcert=500 > > I''m not really seeing anything giving it the verbose option... > nothing''s been modified from EPEL other than the > /etc/puppet/puppetd.conf line: > > report = trueI don''t know where this would be coming from then. I can''t reproduce it on a stock CentOS-5.4 system with the EPEL packages. You might want to try running the init script via sh -x /etc/init.d/puppet start and see if you see where it picks up the --verbose option. If anyone sees this with the EPEL packages, I''d be interested to know about it. -- Todd OpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I always wanted to be a procrastinator, never got around to it.
Kent Rankin
2010-Mar-15 16:31 UTC
Re: [Puppet Users] Tons of "configuration version" reports
I nearly forgot to write in that we removed the puppet client (EPEL) and reinstalled, and the --verbose went away. We never did figure out where it was coming from, though. Thanks for everyone''s help. On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 5:34 PM, Todd Zullinger <tmz@pobox.com> wrote:> Kent Rankin wrote: >> [root@XXXX ~]# rpm -V puppet >> S.5....T c /etc/puppet/puppet.conf >> [root@XXXX ~]# grep verbose /etc/init.d/puppet >> [root@XXXX ~]# grep verbose /etc/sysconfig/puppet >> [root@XXXX ~]# cat /etc/sysconfig/puppet >> # The puppetmaster server >> #PUPPET_SERVER=puppet >> >> # If you wish to specify the port to connect to do so here >> #PUPPET_PORT=8140 >> >> # Where to log to. Specify syslog to send log messages to the system log. >> #PUPPET_LOG=/var/log/puppet/puppet.log >> >> # You may specify other parameters to the puppet client here >> #PUPPET_EXTRA_OPTS=--waitforcert=500 >> >> I''m not really seeing anything giving it the verbose option... >> nothing''s been modified from EPEL other than the >> /etc/puppet/puppetd.conf line: >> >> report = true > > I don''t know where this would be coming from then. I can''t reproduce > it on a stock CentOS-5.4 system with the EPEL packages. You might > want to try running the init script via sh -x /etc/init.d/puppet start > and see if you see where it picks up the --verbose option. > > If anyone sees this with the EPEL packages, I''d be interested to know > about it. > > -- > Todd OpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > I always wanted to be a procrastinator, never got around to it. > >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en.