Puppet users - Nov 2009 - deprecation notice: "Files found in modules without specifying 'modules' in file path"

Puppet 0.25.1.  I''m getting the following log message:

Nov 20 16:50:01 helium puppetmasterd[32124]: DEPRECATION NOTICE: Files
found in modules without specifying ''modules'' in file path
will be
deprecated in the next major release.  Please fix module
''firehol'' when no
0.24.x clients are present

I can''t understand what this means.  What does it mean,
"specifying
''modules'' in file path"?

I do have files served from a module-based file share.  I.e. I have

/etc/puppet/modules/
  firehol/
    files/
      firehol.conf
    manifests/
      init.pp

In firehol/manifests/init.pp I have

file { "/etc/firehol/firehol.conf":
  source => "puppet:///firehol/firehol.conf"
}

and in fileserver.conf I have

[modules]
  allow 127.*
  allow 192.168.*

As far as I can determine from the docs, this is what I''m supposed to
do.
So what else am I supposed to be doing that I''m not?

Thanks,
Andrew.

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> I can''t understand what this means.  What does it mean,
"specifying
> ''modules'' in file path"?
> [...]
> file { "/etc/firehol/firehol.conf":
>   source => "puppet:///firehol/firehol.conf"
> }
file { "/etc/firehol/firehol.conf":
   source => "puppet:///modules/firehol/firehol.conf"
}


but as the notice (it''s just a notice) tells you don''t do it
if there
are still 0.24.x clients around.

cheers pete

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> > I can''t understand what this means.  What does it mean,
"specifying
> > ''modules'' in file path"?
> > [...]
> > file { "/etc/firehol/firehol.conf":
> >   source => "puppet:///firehol/firehol.conf"
> > }
> 
> file { "/etc/firehol/firehol.conf":
>    source => "puppet:///modules/firehol/firehol.conf"
> }
> 
> but as the notice (it''s just a notice) tells you don''t do
it if there
> are still 0.24.x clients around.
Thanks.  That''s correct.  It seems that the documentation needs to be
updated to
explain this.  Andrew.

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Andrew Schulman wrote:
>>> I can''t understand what this means.  What does it mean,
"specifying
>>> ''modules'' in file path"?
>>> [...]
>>> file { "/etc/firehol/firehol.conf":
>>>   source => "puppet:///firehol/firehol.conf"
>>> }
>> file { "/etc/firehol/firehol.conf":
>>    source => "puppet:///modules/firehol/firehol.conf"
>> }
>>
>> but as the notice (it''s just a notice) tells you
don''t do it if there
>> are still 0.24.x clients around.
> 
> Thanks.  That''s correct.  It seems that the documentation needs to
be updated to
> explain this.  Andrew.
The wiki is open sand editable all you need to do is sign-up for an
account.

Regards

James Turnbull

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when behavior in puppet changes, i think the docs would need to be
updated by someone familiar with the changes. is it a good idea to
just assume someone in the community will figure out the new behavior
through experimentation and take it upon themselves to correct the
docs?

-drew

On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:47 AM, James Turnbull <james@lovedthanlost.net>
wrote:
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> Andrew Schulman wrote:
>>>> I can''t understand what this means.  What does it
mean, "specifying
>>>> ''modules'' in file path"?
>>>> [...]
>>>> file { "/etc/firehol/firehol.conf":
>>>>   source => "puppet:///firehol/firehol.conf"
>>>> }
>>> file { "/etc/firehol/firehol.conf":
>>>    source => "puppet:///modules/firehol/firehol.conf"
>>> }
>>>
>>> but as the notice (it''s just a notice) tells you
don''t do it if there
>>> are still 0.24.x clients around.
>>
>> Thanks.  That''s correct.  It seems that the documentation
needs to be updated to
>> explain this.  Andrew.
>
> The wiki is open sand editable all you need to do is sign-up for an
> account.
>
> Regards
>
> James Turnbull
>
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> The wiki is open sand editable all you need to do is sign-up for an
> account.
OK.

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2009/11/24 Andrew Dickson <drew@number88.com>:
> when behavior in puppet changes, i think the docs would need to be
> updated by someone familiar with the changes. is it a good idea to
> just assume someone in the community will figure out the new behavior
> through experimentation and take it upon themselves to correct the
> docs?
>
It was documented in the Release Notes and the announcement emails:

http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/ReleaseNotes#deprecations

Regards

James Turnbull

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> >>> I can''t understand what this means.  What does it
mean, "specifying
> >>> ''modules'' in file path"?
> >>> [...]
> >>> file { "/etc/firehol/firehol.conf":
> >>>   source => "puppet:///firehol/firehol.conf"
> >>> }
> >> file { "/etc/firehol/firehol.conf":
> >>    source => "puppet:///modules/firehol/firehol.conf"
> >> }
> >>
> >> but as the notice (it''s just a notice) tells you
don''t do it if there
> >> are still 0.24.x clients around.
> > 
> > Thanks.  That''s correct.  It seems that the documentation
needs to be updated to
> > explain this.  Andrew.
> 
> The wiki is open sand editable all you need to do is sign-up for an
> account.
Done:
http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/ModuleOrganisation?action=diff&version=45&old_version=44
.  I''d appreciate it if someone would check this to see if I got it
right.
Also, do the template paths need to be similarly changed to include a
''''modules/'''' component?  I''m not
using any templates yet, so I haven''t
tried to check this.

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2009/11/25 Andrew Schulman
<google-groups-andrex@sneakemail.com>:
>> >>> I can''t understand what this means.  What does it
mean, "specifying
>> >>> ''modules'' in file path"?
>> >>> [...]
>> >>> file { "/etc/firehol/firehol.conf":
>> >>>   source => "puppet:///firehol/firehol.conf"
>> >>> }
>> >> file { "/etc/firehol/firehol.conf":
>> >>    source =>
"puppet:///modules/firehol/firehol.conf"
>> >> }
>> >>
>> >> but as the notice (it''s just a notice) tells you
don''t do it if there
>> >> are still 0.24.x clients around.
>> >
>> > Thanks.  That''s correct.  It seems that the documentation
needs to be updated to
>> > explain this.  Andrew.
>>
>> The wiki is open sand editable all you need to do is sign-up for an
>> account.
>
> Done:
>
http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/ModuleOrganisation?action=diff&version=45&old_version=44
> .  I''d appreciate it if someone would check this to see if I got
it right.
> Also, do the template paths need to be similarly changed to include a
> ''''modules/'''' component?  I''m
not using any templates yet, so I haven''t
> tried to check this.
>
Thanks Andrew!  Much appreciated and apologies the page slipped
through getting updated - I usually cover most of the "this is
new/changed" stuff but this one didn''t get beyond the Release
Notes.

Regarding templates - that''s a good question and I don''t know.
:) I
don''t think so but I''ll check and get back to you (and update
the
docs).

I''ll take a quick look at your edits too!

Thanks

James Turnbull

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James Turnbull wrote:
>>
http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/ModuleOrganisation?action=diff&version=45&old_version=44
>> .  I''d appreciate it if someone would check this to see if I
got it right.
>> Also, do the template paths need to be similarly changed to include a
>> ''''modules/'''' component? 
I''m not using any templates yet, so I haven''t
>> tried to check this.
Edits look great.

Templates do not need a change in the path - they are a function rather
than file serving directly.

Regards

James Turnbull

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