Puppet users - Jan 2009 - Puppet playing badly with Debian etch rubygems

To install the ruby-augeas gem, I installed rubygems on Debian etch,
which lead to:

Setting up libgems-ruby1.8 (0.9.0-5) ...
Setting up ruby1.8-dev (1.8.5-4etch4) ...
Setting up rubygems (0.9.0-5) ...

Before this (I mean *immediately* before this) puppet worked fine
exceept for not being able to find a provider for Augeas.  After
this, though:

ec2-www1:/usr/src# puppetd -t
Failed to load feature test for rails: private method
`specification_version='' called for
#<Gem::Specification:0xb7e93c04>
/usr/lib/ruby/1.8/rubygems/source_index.rb:86:in `load_specification'':
private method `specification_version='' called for
#<Gem::Specification:0xb7ae48b0> (NoMethodError)
        from /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/rubygems/specification.rb:401:in
`initialize''
        from (eval):1:in `new''
        from (eval):1:in `load_specification''
        from /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/rubygems/source_index.rb:121:in `eval''
        from /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/rubygems/source_index.rb:86:in
`load_specification''
        from /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/rubygems/source_index.rb:121:in
`load_gems_in''
        from /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/rubygems/source_index.rb:120:in `each''
        from /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/rubygems/source_index.rb:120:in
`load_gems_in''
         ... 36 levels...
        from /usr/local/lib/site_ruby/1.8/puppet/util/settings.rb:724:in
`use''
        from /usr/local/lib/site_ruby/1.8/puppet/network/client/master.rb:197:in
`initialize''
        from /usr/sbin/puppetd:328:in `new''
        from /usr/sbin/puppetd:328

Installing libgems-ruby1.8 (1.1.1-1~bpo40+1) from etch-backports
fixes, but I wanted to mention it in case y''all wanted to fix it in
Puppet somehow.

-Robin

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On Jan 16, 2009, at 1:39 PM, Robin Lee Powell wrote:
>
> To install the ruby-augeas gem, I installed rubygems on Debian etch,
> which lead to:
>
> Setting up libgems-ruby1.8 (0.9.0-5) ...
> Setting up ruby1.8-dev (1.8.5-4etch4) ...
> Setting up rubygems (0.9.0-5) ...
>
> Before this (I mean *immediately* before this) puppet worked fine
> exceept for not being able to find a provider for Augeas.  After
> this, though:
>
> ec2-www1:/usr/src# puppetd -t
> Failed to load feature test for rails: private method  
> `specification_version='' called for
#<Gem::Specification:0xb7e93c04>
> /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/rubygems/source_index.rb:86:in  
> `load_specification'': private method
`specification_version='' called
> for #<Gem::Specification:0xb7ae48b0> (NoMethodError)
>        from /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/rubygems/specification.rb:401:in  
> `initialize''
>        from (eval):1:in `new''
>        from (eval):1:in `load_specification''
>        from /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/rubygems/source_index.rb:121:in
`eval''
>        from /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/rubygems/source_index.rb:86:in  
> `load_specification''
>        from /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/rubygems/source_index.rb:121:in  
> `load_gems_in''
>        from /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/rubygems/source_index.rb:120:in
`each''
>        from /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/rubygems/source_index.rb:120:in  
> `load_gems_in''
>         ... 36 levels...
>        from /usr/local/lib/site_ruby/1.8/puppet/util/settings.rb: 
> 724:in `use''
>        from /usr/local/lib/site_ruby/1.8/puppet/network/client/ 
> master.rb:197:in `initialize''
>        from /usr/sbin/puppetd:328:in `new''
>        from /usr/sbin/puppetd:328
>
> Installing libgems-ruby1.8 (1.1.1-1~bpo40+1) from etch-backports
> fixes, but I wanted to mention it in case y''all wanted to fix it
in
> Puppet somehow.
This is unfortunately a rubygems issue, not a Puppet issue, and  
because of how rubygems are (stupidly) written, we have to require  
rubygems in case any of our dependencies are installed that way.

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On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 02:08:30PM -0600, Luke Kanies
wrote:
> 
> On Jan 16, 2009, at 1:39 PM, Robin Lee Powell wrote:
> 
> >
> > To install the ruby-augeas gem, I installed rubygems on Debian etch,
> > which lead to:
> >
> > Setting up libgems-ruby1.8 (0.9.0-5) ...
> > Setting up ruby1.8-dev (1.8.5-4etch4) ...
> > Setting up rubygems (0.9.0-5) ...
> >
> > Before this (I mean *immediately* before this) puppet worked fine
> > exceept for not being able to find a provider for Augeas.  After
> > this, though:
> >
> > ec2-www1:/usr/src# puppetd -t
> > Failed to load feature test for rails: private method  
> > `specification_version='' called for
#<Gem::Specification:0xb7e93c04>
> > /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/rubygems/source_index.rb:86:in  
> > `load_specification'': private method
`specification_version='' called
> > for #<Gem::Specification:0xb7ae48b0> (NoMethodError)
> >        from /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/rubygems/specification.rb:401:in  
> > `initialize''
> >        from (eval):1:in `new''
> >        from (eval):1:in `load_specification''
> >        from /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/rubygems/source_index.rb:121:in
`eval''
> >        from /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/rubygems/source_index.rb:86:in  
> > `load_specification''
> >        from /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/rubygems/source_index.rb:121:in  
> > `load_gems_in''
> >        from /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/rubygems/source_index.rb:120:in
`each''
> >        from /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/rubygems/source_index.rb:120:in  
> > `load_gems_in''
> >         ... 36 levels...
> >        from /usr/local/lib/site_ruby/1.8/puppet/util/settings.rb: 
> > 724:in `use''
> >        from /usr/local/lib/site_ruby/1.8/puppet/network/client/ 
> > master.rb:197:in `initialize''
> >        from /usr/sbin/puppetd:328:in `new''
> >        from /usr/sbin/puppetd:328
> >
> > Installing libgems-ruby1.8 (1.1.1-1~bpo40+1) from etch-backports
> > fixes, but I wanted to mention it in case y''all wanted to fix
it in
> > Puppet somehow.
> 
> This is unfortunately a rubygems issue, not a Puppet issue, and  
> because of how rubygems are (stupidly) written, we have to require  
> rubygems in case any of our dependencies are installed that way.
OK, so how do I fix it?

-Robin

-- 
They say:  "The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons."
And I''m thinking:  "Does it even occur to you to try for something
other than the default outcome?" -- http://shorl.com/tydruhedufogre
http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/

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Le lundi 19 janvier 2009 à 15:33 -0800, Robin Lee Powell a écrit
:
> OK, so how do I fix it?
I think that debgem will be helpfull in a near future :
http://debgem.phusion.nl/

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Nicolas Szalay wrote:
> Le lundi 19 janvier 2009 à 15:33 -0800, Robin Lee Powell a écrit :
>> OK, so how do I fix it?
> 
> I think that debgem will be helpfull in a near future :
> http://debgem.phusion.nl/
> 
Except that it isn''t free.

Regards

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I think using debgem would possibly make gems more difficult to manage
thru Puppet. Even with the gem provider, gems and packages that have
the same name (mysql, puppet, ..) conflict. A fix for that sure would
be nice. :)

Gary

On Jan 20, 3:39 pm, James Turnbull <ja...@lovedthanlost.net>
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> > Le lundi 19 janvier 2009 à 15:33 -0800, Robin Lee Powell a écrit :
> >> OK, so how do I fix it?
>
> > I think that debgem will be helpfull in a near future :
> >http://debgem.phusion.nl/
>
> Except that it isn''t free.
>
> Regards
>
> James Turnbull
>
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Le mardi 20 janvier 2009 à 01:28 -0800, gary a écrit :
> I think using debgem would possibly make gems more difficult to manage
> thru Puppet. Even with the gem provider, gems and packages that have
> the same name (mysql, puppet, ..) conflict. A fix for that sure would
> be nice. :)
Packages created are using the debian naming conventions, so it should
not harm. But I''d like to see a free competitor for this system,
because
to me the idea is nice.

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I mean that some debgems and deb packages have the same name. If you
tried to install them both (like puppet), it could be difficult. Maybe
apt has some way to include certain packages from a particular repo
like yum.

Gary

On Jan 20, 5:31 pm, Nicolas Szalay <nsza...@qualigaz.com>
wrote:
> Le mardi 20 janvier 2009 à 01:28 -0800, gary a écrit :
>
> > I think using debgem would possibly make gems more difficult to manage
> > thru Puppet. Even with the gem provider, gems and packages that have
> > the same name (mysql, puppet, ..) conflict. A fix for that sure would
> > be nice. :)
>
> Packages created are using the debian naming conventions, so it should
> not harm. But I''d like to see a free competitor for this system,
because
> to me the idea is nice.
>
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On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 06:39:53PM +1100, James Turnbull
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> Nicolas Szalay wrote:
> > Le lundi 19 janvier 2009 à 15:33 -0800, Robin Lee Powell a écrit
> > :
> >> OK, so how do I fix it?
> > 
> > I think that debgem will be helpfull in a near future :
> > http://debgem.phusion.nl/
> 
> Except that it isn''t free.
[off-topic]

Staggeringly un-free, in fact; there''s no way I''d ever pay
those
prices for a service that''ll save me maybe half an hour a month, on
average.  Yeesh.

-Robin

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And I''m thinking:  "Does it even occur to you to try for something
other than the default outcome?" -- http://shorl.com/tydruhedufogre
http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/

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I look a little bit at this error and I believe the root cause is a
newer ruby gems trying to check ''specification'' on an older
rails gem.
(or perhaps the opposite)

Try an update on the rails gem and see if that helps.

One solution on a blog post was to uninstall all the debs and install
ruby packages from source.

Let us know what seems to work best for you.

On Jan 16, 12:39 pm, Robin Lee Powell <rlpow...@digitalkingdom.org>
wrote:
> To install the ruby-augeas gem, I installed rubygems on Debian etch,
> which lead to:
>
> Setting up libgems-ruby1.8 (0.9.0-5) ...
> Setting up ruby1.8-dev (1.8.5-4etch4) ...
> Setting up rubygems (0.9.0-5) ...
>
> Before this (I mean *immediately* before this) puppet worked fine
> exceept for not being able to find a provider for Augeas.  After
> this, though:
>
> ec2-www1:/usr/src# puppetd -t
> Failed to load feature test for rails: private method
`specification_version='' called for
#<Gem::Specification:0xb7e93c04>
> /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/rubygems/source_index.rb:86:in
`load_specification'': private method `specification_version=''
called for #<Gem::Specification:0xb7ae48b0> (NoMethodError)
>         from /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/rubygems/specification.rb:401:in
`initialize''
>         from (eval):1:in `new''
>         from (eval):1:in `load_specification''
>         from /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/rubygems/source_index.rb:121:in
`eval''
>         from /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/rubygems/source_index.rb:86:in
`load_specification''
>         from /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/rubygems/source_index.rb:121:in
`load_gems_in''
>         from /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/rubygems/source_index.rb:120:in
`each''
>         from /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/rubygems/source_index.rb:120:in
`load_gems_in''
>          ... 36 levels...
>         from /usr/local/lib/site_ruby/1.8/puppet/util/settings.rb:724:in
`use''
>         from
/usr/local/lib/site_ruby/1.8/puppet/network/client/master.rb:197:in
`initialize''
>         from /usr/sbin/puppetd:328:in `new''
>         from /usr/sbin/puppetd:328
>
> Installing libgems-ruby1.8 (1.1.1-1~bpo40+1) from etch-backports
> fixes, but I wanted to mention it in case y''all wanted to fix it
in
> Puppet somehow.
>
> -Robin
>
> --
> They say:  "The first AIs will be built by the military as
weapons."
> And I''m thinking:  "Does it even occur to you to try for
something
> other than the default outcome?"
--http://shorl.com/tydruhedufogrehttp://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/***http://www.lojban.org/
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On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 02:05:37AM -0800, gary wrote:
> 
> I mean that some debgems and deb packages have the same name. If you
> tried to install them both (like puppet), it could be difficult. Maybe
> apt has some way to include certain packages from a particular repo
man 5 apt_preferences

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