pkg kde talk - Mar 2012 - Bug#664681: transition: KDE's 4.8 release of platform, applications and workspace

On Saturday 24 March 2012 22:10:07 you wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 22:07:22 +0100, Sune Vuorela wrote:
> > a couple of months ago, KDE released the januar feature release
> Should we do the qt multiarch change before this?
We can do the qt multiarch change first. we also can do it after. 

I would personally like to see the Qt multiarch change done, because it also 
brings in qt4.8

/Sune
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Hello,

On ?e?tadienis 24 Kovas 2012 23:45:02 Sune Vuorela
wrote:
> On Saturday 24 March 2012 22:10:07 you wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 22:07:22 +0100, Sune Vuorela wrote:
> > > a couple of months ago, KDE released the januar feature release
> > 
> > Should we do the qt multiarch change before this?
> 
> We can do the qt multiarch change first. we also can do it after.
> 
> I would personally like to see the Qt multiarch change done, because it
> also brings in qt4.8
With qt4-x11 multiarch done [1] and KDE Plasma Workspaces ready in experimental
[2],
when could we expect a transition slot?

[1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=653903 [ bug not closed
though ]
[2] http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/redir/kde-sc-buildd-experimental?compact=1

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Modestas Vainius <modax at debian.org>
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Hello,

Modestas Vainius <modax at debian.org>
(02/06/2012):
> With qt4-x11 multiarch done [1] and KDE Plasma Workspaces ready in
> experimental [2], when could we expect a transition slot?
> 
> [1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=653903 [ bug not
closed though ]
> [2]
http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/redir/kde-sc-buildd-experimental?compact=1
I just replied to [1], should be done quite soon; do we need to set up a
tracker for [2], or will you just be able to monitor everything on your
end?

I /think/ you should be able to go ahead right now. A ben file would
help us spot what could be entangled with other ongoing transitions.

Mraw,
KiBi.
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Hi,

Alle luned? 4 giugno 2012, Cyril Brulebois ha scritto:
> Modestas Vainius <modax at debian.org> (02/06/2012):
> > With qt4-x11 multiarch done [1] and KDE Plasma Workspaces ready in
> > experimental [2], when could we expect a transition slot?
> > 
> > [1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=653903 [ bug
> > not closed though ] [2]
> > http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/redir/kde-sc-buildd-experimental?
> > compact=1
> 
> I just replied to [1], should be done quite soon; do we need to set
> up a tracker for [2], or will you just be able to monitor everything
> on your end?
A "kde-workspace4.8" tracker would be nice, at least for the few 
workspace libraries that bumped soname:

* kde-workspace-dev/kdebase-workspace-dev (src:kde-workspace):
    libkwineffects1abi2     -> libkwineffects1abi3
    libkworkspace4          -> libkworkspace4abi1
    libplasmaclock4abi2     -> libplasmaclock4abi3
    libtaskmanager4abi2     -> libtaskmanager4abi3

The third party sources affected are the following:

    apper
    kdenetwork (**)
    kshutdown (*)
    ktorrent
    plasma-widget-adjustableclock
    plasma-widget-fastuserswitch
    plasma-widget-smooth-tasks (*)

(*) fails to compile with the newer workspace API
(**) fails to compile due to bumped soversion in libs which affects
     .install files
> I /think/ you should be able to go ahead right now. A ben file would
> help us spot what could be entangled with other ongoing transitions.
Modestas started to push the following sources:
    meta-kde
    oxygen-icons
    kactivities
    kde4libs
    kde-runtime
    kdepimlibs
    kde-wallpapers
    kde-workspace
    kdeplasma-addons
    kde-baseapps
and a fixed kdenetwork will follow too

Thanks,
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On Sat, 2012-06-09 at 22:52 +0200, Pino Toscano wrote:
> A "kde-workspace4.8" tracker would be nice, at least for the few 
> workspace libraries that bumped soname:
> 
> * kde-workspace-dev/kdebase-workspace-dev (src:kde-workspace):
>     libkwineffects1abi2     -> libkwineffects1abi3
>     libkworkspace4          -> libkworkspace4abi1
>     libplasmaclock4abi2     -> libplasmaclock4abi3
>     libtaskmanager4abi2     -> libtaskmanager4abi3
Added at
<URL:http://release.debian.org/transitions/html/kde-workspace4.8.html>.
There''s quite a few "unknown"s on there, but the good/bad
appear to map
to your list of affected packages.
> The third party sources affected are the following:
> 
>     apper
>     kdenetwork (**)
>     kshutdown (*)
>     ktorrent
>     plasma-widget-adjustableclock
>     plasma-widget-fastuserswitch
>     plasma-widget-smooth-tasks (*)
> 
> (*) fails to compile with the newer workspace API
Is there a plan for getting kshutdown and p-w-smooth-tasks fixed or
removed?

Regards,

Adam

Alle domenica 10 giugno 2012, Adam D. Barratt ha
scritto:
> On Sat, 2012-06-09 at 22:52 +0200, Pino Toscano wrote:
> > A "kde-workspace4.8" tracker would be nice, at least for the
few
> > workspace libraries that bumped soname:
> > 
> > * kde-workspace-dev/kdebase-workspace-dev (src:kde-workspace):
> >     libkwineffects1abi2     -> libkwineffects1abi3
> >     libkworkspace4          -> libkworkspace4abi1
> >     libplasmaclock4abi2     -> libplasmaclock4abi3
> >     libtaskmanager4abi2     -> libtaskmanager4abi3
> 
> Added at
> <URL:http://release.debian.org/transitions/html/kde-workspace4.8.html
> >.
Thanks for this.
> >There''s quite a few "unknown"s on there, but the
good/bad appear
> to map to your list of affected packages.
It is fine, since kde-workspace provides other libraries and
kde(base)-workspace-dev installs all of them, and only few of those had 
SONAME bumps.
> > The third party sources affected are the following:
> >     apper
> >     kdenetwork (**)
> >     kshutdown (*)
> >     ktorrent
> >     plasma-widget-adjustableclock
> >     plasma-widget-fastuserswitch
> >     plasma-widget-smooth-tasks (*)
> > 
> > (*) fails to compile with the newer workspace API
> 
> Is there a plan for getting kshutdown and p-w-smooth-tasks fixed or
> removed?
They are leaf packages so they can be always hinted out of testing until 
they get fixes.
- kshutdown has not been handled yet, we will do so soon
- plasma-widget-smooth-tasks is getting an update to a forked version of
  it (since the original seems to not be developed lately...)
the rest of the sources (those without */**) can be binNMUed now, I 
think (as kde-workspace compiled everywhere in release archs at least).

Thanks,
-- 
Pino Toscano
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On Thu, 2012-06-14 at 16:45 +0200, Pino Toscano wrote:
> Alle domenica 10 giugno 2012, Adam D. Barratt ha scritto:
> > On Sat, 2012-06-09 at 22:52 +0200, Pino Toscano wrote:
> >
<URL:http://release.debian.org/transitions/html/kde-workspace4.8.html
[...]
> > >     kshutdown (*)
[...]
> > >     plasma-widget-smooth-tasks (*)
> > > 
> > > (*) fails to compile with the newer workspace API
> > 
> > Is there a plan for getting kshutdown and p-w-smooth-tasks fixed or
> > removed?
> 
> They are leaf packages so they can be always hinted out of testing until 
> they get fixes.
> - kshutdown has not been handled yet, we will do so soon
> - plasma-widget-smooth-tasks is getting an update to a forked version of
>   it (since the original seems to not be developed lately...)
Okay; thanks.
> the rest of the sources (those without */**) can be binNMUed now, I 
> think (as kde-workspace compiled everywhere in release archs at least).
Yep.  Scheduled, minus apper/sparc which appears to have built more
recently than the other arches and already picked up the correct
dependency.

Regards,

Adam

Hi,

Alle gioved? 14 giugno 2012, Adam D. Barratt ha scritto:
> > They are leaf packages so they can be always hinted out of testing
> > until they get fixes.
> > - kshutdown has not been handled yet, we will do so soon
This has been fixed yesterday.
> > - plasma-widget-smooth-tasks is getting an update to a forked
> > version of
> >   it (since the original seems to not be developed lately...)
This still need to be fixed.
> Yep.  Scheduled, minus apper/sparc which appears to have built more
> recently than the other arches and already picked up the correct
> dependency.
Thanks, it seems everywhere binNMUs went fine.
Given that kde-workspace is 9/10, would it be possible to let it migrate 
tonight, hinting temporarly kshutdown and plasma-widget-smooth-tasks out 
of testing? The former would migrate again on its own in 10 days, the 
latter... dunno, it would not be a grave loss OTOH.

Thanks,
-- 
Pino Toscano
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Hi,

On 20.06.2012 11:22, Pino Toscano wrote:
> Alle gioved? 14 giugno 2012, Adam D. Barratt ha scritto:
>> Yep.  Scheduled, minus apper/sparc which appears to have built more
>> recently than the other arches and already picked up the correct
>> dependency.
>
> Thanks, it seems everywhere binNMUs went fine.
> Given that kde-workspace is 9/10, would it be possible to let it 
> migrate
> tonight, hinting temporarly kshutdown and plasma-widget-smooth-tasks 
> out
> of testing? The former would migrate again on its own in 10 days, the
> latter... dunno, it would not be a grave loss OTOH.
As discussed on IRC, after removing kshutdown and p-w-s-t everything 
else looks okay from a kde-workspace perspective.  The tidy up of old 
libraries in testing ends up incomplete however, because kdenetwork is 
only 3/10 and the testing version depends on libkworkspace4 - we can 
either age kdenetwork, or just live with the old library hanging around 
for a few more days; either works for me. :-)

Regards,

Adam

Hi,

Alle mercoled? 20 giugno 2012, Adam D. Barratt ha
scritto:
> On 20.06.2012 11:22, Pino Toscano wrote:
> > Alle gioved? 14 giugno 2012, Adam D. Barratt ha scritto:
> >> Yep.  Scheduled, minus apper/sparc which appears to have built
> >> more recently than the other arches and already picked up the
> >> correct dependency.
> > 
> > Thanks, it seems everywhere binNMUs went fine.
> > Given that kde-workspace is 9/10, would it be possible to let it
> > migrate
> > tonight, hinting temporarly kshutdown and
> > plasma-widget-smooth-tasks out
> > of testing? The former would migrate again on its own in 10 days,
> > the latter... dunno, it would not be a grave loss OTOH.
> 
> As discussed on IRC, after removing kshutdown and p-w-s-t everything
> else looks okay from a kde-workspace perspective.  The tidy up of old
> libraries in testing ends up incomplete however, because kdenetwork
> is only 3/10 and the testing version depends on libkworkspace4 - we
> can either age kdenetwork, or just live with the old library hanging
> around for a few more days; either works for me. :-)
If the old libraries are not a problem for a week, I''d say if you could
temporarly keep them and wait for the kdenetwork migration (so we''re 
double sure it is safe enough).

Thanks,
-- 
Pino Toscano
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Hi,

On Wed, 2012-06-20 at 19:48 +0200, Pino Toscano wrote:
> Alle mercoled? 20 giugno 2012, Adam D. Barratt ha scritto:
> > On 20.06.2012 11:22, Pino Toscano wrote:
> > > Alle gioved? 14 giugno 2012, Adam D. Barratt ha scritto:
> > > Given that kde-workspace is 9/10, would it be possible to let it
> > > migrate
> > > tonight, hinting temporarly kshutdown and
> > > plasma-widget-smooth-tasks out
> > > of testing? The former would migrate again on its own in 10 days,
> > > the latter... dunno, it would not be a grave loss OTOH.
> > 
> > As discussed on IRC, after removing kshutdown and p-w-s-t everything
> > else looks okay from a kde-workspace perspective.  The tidy up of old
> > libraries in testing ends up incomplete however, because kdenetwork
> > is only 3/10 and the testing version depends on libkworkspace4 - we
> > can either age kdenetwork, or just live with the old library hanging
> > around for a few more days; either works for me. :-)
> 
> If the old libraries are not a problem for a week, I''d say if you
could
> temporarly keep them and wait for the kdenetwork migration (so
we''re
> double sure it is safe enough).
No problem.  kde-workspace and the remaining binNMUs migrated as planned
in tonight''s britney run.

Regards,

Adam

Hi,

Alle gioved? 21 giugno 2012, Adam D. Barratt ha scritto:
> On Wed, 2012-06-20 at 19:48 +0200, Pino Toscano wrote:
> > Alle mercoled? 20 giugno 2012, Adam D. Barratt ha scritto:
> > > On 20.06.2012 11:22, Pino Toscano wrote:
> > > > Alle gioved? 14 giugno 2012, Adam D. Barratt ha scritto:
> > > > Given that kde-workspace is 9/10, would it be possible to
let
> > > > it migrate
> > > > tonight, hinting temporarly kshutdown and
> > > > plasma-widget-smooth-tasks out
> > > > of testing? The former would migrate again on its own in 10
> > > > days, the latter... dunno, it would not be a grave loss
OTOH.
> > > 
> > > As discussed on IRC, after removing kshutdown and p-w-s-t
> > > everything else looks okay from a kde-workspace perspective. 
> > > The tidy up of old libraries in testing ends up incomplete
> > > however, because kdenetwork is only 3/10 and the testing version
> > > depends on libkworkspace4 - we can either age kdenetwork, or
> > > just live with the old library hanging around for a few more
> > > days; either works for me. :-)
> > 
> > If the old libraries are not a problem for a week, I''d say if
you
> > could temporarly keep them and wait for the kdenetwork migration
> > (so we''re double sure it is safe enough).
> 
> No problem.  kde-workspace and the remaining binNMUs migrated as
> planned in tonight''s britney run.
kdenetwork migrated tonight, so I think the old binaries could be 
removed and this transition (i.e. the kde-workspace one) declared done.

-- 
Pino Toscano
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Hi,

On 27.06.2012 09:22, Pino Toscano wrote:
> Alle gioved? 21 giugno 2012, Adam D. Barratt ha scritto:
>> On Wed, 2012-06-20 at 19:48 +0200, Pino Toscano wrote:
>> > If the old libraries are not a problem for a week, I''d
say if you
>> > could temporarly keep them and wait for the kdenetwork migration
>> > (so we''re double sure it is safe enough).
>>
>> No problem.  kde-workspace and the remaining binNMUs migrated as
>> planned in tonight''s britney run.
>
> kdenetwork migrated tonight, so I think the old binaries could be
> removed and this transition (i.e. the kde-workspace one) declared 
> done.
The old binaries are indeed gone automagically after kdenetwork''s 
migration last night.

Do we want to keep the bug open to track 
http://release.debian.org/transitions/html/kde4.8bis.html and anything 
else that might still be outstanding for 4.8?

Regards,

Adam