pkg kde talk - May 2009 - Bug#528489: tasksel: kde-desktop neeeds adjusting for KDE4

Package: tasksel
Version: 2.78
Severity: important
X-Debbugs-CC: pkg-kde-talk at lists.alioth.debian.org

Hello,

while trying to get an initial view of migrating KDE4 to testing with
britney, I noticed that our "taskel-meta-faux" package [1] was
rendered
uninstallable because the kde-core metapackage is no longer provided. It
seems the KDE meta-packages have been re-organized for KDE4, and now
kde-full, kde-minimal and kde-standard are provided.

It''d be nice if you could be looking into updating tasksel to these new
metapackages, so that there''s a version ready to migrate together with
KDE4.

Thanks,

  [1]: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.devel.release/21309

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tags 528489 +patch
thanks

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:04:38AM +0200, Adeodato Sim?
wrote:
> Package: tasksel
> Version: 2.78
> Severity: important
> X-Debbugs-CC: pkg-kde-talk at lists.alioth.debian.org
> 
> Hello,
> 
> while trying to get an initial view of migrating KDE4 to testing with
> britney, I noticed that our "taskel-meta-faux" package [1] was
rendered
> uninstallable because the kde-core metapackage is no longer provided. It
> seems the KDE meta-packages have been re-organized for KDE4, and now
> kde-full, kde-minimal and kde-standard are provided.
> 
> It''d be nice if you could be looking into updating tasksel to
these new
> metapackages, so that there''s a version ready to migrate together
with
> KDE4.
>
The attached patch updates the task to KDE 4. It relies in the new metapackage
kde-standard that still needs to be updated [0]. The metapackage will need an 
update in a couple of months or so when KDE 4 is more "settled" in
Debian and
to review what to do with libqt-perl, debconf kde frontend, and kpackage.

Ana

[0] thread about this if you are curious:
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-kde-talk/2009-April/001254.html
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On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 02:19:17PM +0200, Frans Pop
wrote:
> How big would the resulting install be?
> 
> I''m asking because it is *essential* that the packages listed as
"Key"
> don''t install too large a system as they (plus all their Depends,
not
> Recommends) must easily fit on a single CD (together with D-I, 
> documentation (installation guide, release notes), base system, kernel, 
> X.org, etc.).
> 
> Will the kde-standard meta package fit that requirement?
Yes, I think it will do. Currently kde-standard is exactly the same than 
kde-minimal. The goal in the very close future is that kde-standard become 
something between kde-minimal and kde-full; this a similar to what the old 
task does, it contains kde-core and some modules. (Actually I think the
current list of key packages is too big, but that does not matter anymore)

The goal of kde-standard is provide what an average user would expect: browser,
file manager (those both are included in kde-standard), but also pdf reader
(okular, kdegraphics), etc... I think it will be a better selection that what
is currently listed "key".

> If not, it might be better to list something "smaller" as Key
package,
> with kde-standard as a "regular" package that''s to be
installed if
> available.
>
If kde-standard becomes too big, the task can be changed to kde-minimal 
plus subset of modules. And move the remaining to Packages-list, or even
directly list there kde-full (it does list kde now...)

But for what we (kde team) have in mind for kde-standard, it should fit
perfectly the task.
> And even after that, regular packages included in the task should also not 
> total too much. Preferably the whole task should be installable from CD1, 
> ideally with room to spare for at least some KDE l10n packages.

In any case, from now to one year that we will have to relook at this. KDE
upstream is in constantly doing changes and who knows how things will end up
for the time that we will be getting ready for squeeze (KDE 4.4 or KDE 4.5 or
who knows). 


Ana

Quoting Ana Guerrero (ana at debian.org):
> > Will the kde-standard meta package fit that requirement?
> 
> Yes, I think it will do. Currently kde-standard is exactly the same than 
> kde-minimal. The goal in the very close future is that kde-standard become 
> something between kde-minimal and kde-full; this a similar to what the old 
> task does, it contains kde-core and some modules. (Actually I think the
> current list of key packages is too big, but that does not matter anymore)

.../...

I think that Ana''s answer is well suited to answer Frans''
concerns. So, applying the patcjh *and uploading tasksel* would be OK,
IMHO.

Any objections to this??

(please note that I''m OK to apply the patch but, while I could
certainly upload tasksel as well, I''d prefer the "regular"
maintainers
to do so (looking for the recent past, that would mean Joey or
Otavio).


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