On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 02:45:04PM +0200, Rene Engelhard wrote:> Hi, > > Ana Guerrero wrote: > > With KDE 3 as default kde in unstable, the kde 3 support provided in > ^ 4? ;) > > > openoffice.org (-kde and -kab AFAIR) is not longer useful. Please stop > > building it. > > Last I loooked it still showed Qt dialogs even when used in KDE4.. So what > exactly is not useful anymore? The file picker? The KAB integration? > (The latter can be disabled on its own afair) >I am not an openffice.org user in debian, so i might have missed something, but so far: the -kab integration is linking against the old kde3 libraries, so it hardly can work with current kaddressbook et all. about -kde is supposed to show it integrated with kde4/qt4 and if that is working (i have not checked), it will be kde3/qt3 and you have to install kdelibs from kde3 that some users might have ride of already. For me it is ok to keep -kde if you rename it to -kde3, but not sure it is worth the bothering (NEW...) Ana PS: CC''ed pkg-kde-talk@ in case some heavy OOo users has something to add.
On Monday 13 April 2009 15:35:08 Ana Guerrero wrote:> about -kde is supposed to show it integrated with kde4/qt4 and if that is > working (i have not checked), it will be kde3/qt3 and you have to install > kdelibs from kde3 that some users might have ride of already.I agree that kde3 integration is not relevant in a kde4 environment. Using Qt3 dialogs sticks just as much out as "being wrong" as GTK or fltk dialogs. the kab parts might still be usable, I don''t think they *yet* have changed the storage format, but it is just a matter of time. /Sune -- Do you know how may I do for debugging the jumper to the processor from Photoshop? The point is that you have to link a FPU to close the coaxial periferic. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-kde-talk/attachments/20090413/a477a434/attachment.pgp>
tag 523899 + pending thanks Sune Vuorela wrote:> On Monday 13 April 2009 15:35:08 Ana Guerrero wrote: > > about -kde is supposed to show it integrated with kde4/qt4 and if that is > > working (i have not checked), it will be kde3/qt3 and you have to install > > kdelibs from kde3 that some users might have ride of already. > > I agree that kde3 integration is not relevant in a kde4 environment. Using Qt3 > dialogs sticks just as much out as "being wrong" as GTK or fltk dialogs.OK, then -kde and -kab will be disabled in the next upload on each branch (for 3.0.1 only if there actually will be another upload...) Gr??e/Regards, Ren? -- .''''`. Ren? Engelhard -- Debian GNU/Linux Developer : :'' : http://www.debian.org | http://people.debian.org/~rene/ `. `'' rene at debian.org | GnuPG-Key ID: 248AEB73 `- Fingerprint: 41FA F208 28D4 7CA5 19BB 7AD9 F859 90B0 248A EB73
On Monday 13 April 2009, Sune Vuorela wrote:> On Monday 13 April 2009 15:35:08 Ana Guerrero wrote: > > about -kde is supposed to show it integrated with kde4/qt4 and if that is > > working (i have not checked), it will be kde3/qt3 and you have to install > > kdelibs from kde3 that some users might have ride of already. > > I agree that kde3 integration is not relevant in a kde4 environment. Using > Qt3 dialogs sticks just as much out as "being wrong" as GTK or fltk > dialogs. > > the kab parts might still be usable, I don''t think they *yet* have changed > the storage format, but it is just a matter of time.We will provide compatibility adaptors though, the KABC API is part of kdepimlibs until KDE5. However it is likely that at some point any integration efforts will probably switch to the new API. Cheers, Kevin -- Kevin Krammer, KDE developer, xdg-utils developer KDE user support, developer mentoring -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-kde-talk/attachments/20090414/40f6afc8/attachment.pgp>
Hi, Rene Engelhard wrote:> Sune Vuorela wrote: > > On Monday 13 April 2009 15:35:08 Ana Guerrero wrote: > > > about -kde is supposed to show it integrated with kde4/qt4 and if that is > > > working (i have not checked), it will be kde3/qt3 and you have to install > > > kdelibs from kde3 that some users might have ride of already. > > > > I agree that kde3 integration is not relevant in a kde4 environment. Using Qt3 > > dialogs sticks just as much out as "being wrong" as GTK or fltk dialogs.That''s true, but OOo without any integration is really ugly (see also below, just try it :) )> OK, then -kde and -kab will be disabled in the next upload on each branch > (for 3.0.1 only if there actually will be another upload...)Had a quick discussion with calc on IRC (even a few days ago); Ubuntu still ships -kde: 23:51 <@_rene_> calc: btw, #523899... Day changed to 14 Apr 2009 00:15 -!- mikeadvo [~michael at p578b3c6a.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:20 -!- mikeadvo (Michael Stehmann) [~michael at p578b3c6a.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian-oo 00:53 < calc> _rene_: you may want to ask them to look at what OOo looks like with -kde removed currently... 00:53 < calc> we were thinking about removing it in Ubuntu this cycle but once the kde people saw how ugly native OOo looked they decided they wanted to keep kde3 support instead :) 00:55 < calc> kde users are likely to have kde3 apps still anyway since kde4 was largely a rewrite so will still be seeing kde3 file dialogs anyway 00:55 < calc> so dropping kde support entirely and going back to the horrific native dialogs is probably not something the users will really want, heh 00:56 < calc> best case is if someone that knows enough about kde could just update the file picker to work on kde4 Just FYI :) Gr??e/Regards, Ren? -- .''''`. Ren? Engelhard -- Debian GNU/Linux Developer : :'' : http://www.debian.org | http://people.debian.org/~rene/ `. `'' rene at debian.org | GnuPG-Key ID: 248AEB73 `- Fingerprint: 41FA F208 28D4 7CA5 19BB 7AD9 F859 90B0 248A EB73