pkg kde talk - Feb 2009 - KDE in the transition queue

(please keep pkg-kde-talk in cc, but no need to keep me)

Hi release team!

We are as good as ready to push a new and better KDE into unstable at your 
command.

You basically have two choices. Brief and rough or less pain over a longer 
period of time.
The total breakages/pain is expected to be the same for both choices, so it is 
more like what fits the release team and its plans best.

The plan is to change all parts of kde3 except the kde3 libs to their kde4 
counterparts and some 3rd party things will break because they are plugins or 
extensions to the kde3 versions without any plans for a kde4 version of the 
plugin or extension.

Currently, we look at breaking around 50-100 source packages, some will have 
to be removed, some will have to be updated to newer versions and some will 
have to have parts removed. Some of that work is already in progress, but some 
maintainers promises to fix it when it becomes broken.
There is one unrelated piece of breakage, lurker, but the maintainer is aware 
and thinking of solutions.

So basically, dear release team, do you want it soft or rough - and when do 
you want it?

/Sune 
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On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 07:50:29PM +0100, Sune Vuorela
wrote:
> 
> We are as good as ready to push a new and better KDE into unstable at your 
> command.
> 
> You basically have two choices. Brief and rough or less pain over a longer 
> period of time.
The details about this at:
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-kde-talk/2009-February/001150.html
(about 6 mails thread not very long)


I disagree that the "brief and rough" way is shorter on time (and most
of sune''s
email) But you have the discussion in the above linked thread, no need to
repeat it here.

Cheers,
Ana

Okay, some coordination happen on IRC on this front. This is the
official ?Go!?, now that the ffmpeg/libraw1394/directfb mess is cleared
up.

So, feel free to start uploading kde4 stuff to unstable, but please do
not upload koffice until poppler is done (not sure if a koffice upload
was planned, but just in case). Let me know if you need me to notify you
when that happens.

As always, please come by for anything you need. Also, I guess you?ll be
taking care of the kde4libs/alpha FTBFS prior to uploading the rest of
stuff?

What?s exactly the difference between ?brief and rough? and ?less pain
over a longer period of time?, in terms of uploads? Brief and rough
sounds good to me, but I?d like to know what it entails!

Cheers,

--- Sune Vuorela [Sun, 15 Feb 2009 19:50:29 +0100]:
> (please keep pkg-kde-talk in cc, but no need to keep me)
> Hi release team!
> We are as good as ready to push a new and better KDE into unstable at your 
> command.
> You basically have two choices. Brief and rough or less pain over a longer 
> period of time.
> The total breakages/pain is expected to be the same for both choices, so it
is
> more like what fits the release team and its plans best.
> The plan is to change all parts of kde3 except the kde3 libs to their kde4 
> counterparts and some 3rd party things will break because they are plugins
or
> extensions to the kde3 versions without any plans for a kde4 version of the
> plugin or extension.
> Currently, we look at breaking around 50-100 source packages, some will
have
> to be removed, some will have to be updated to newer versions and some will
> have to have parts removed. Some of that work is already in progress, but
some
> maintainers promises to fix it when it becomes broken.
> There is one unrelated piece of breakage, lurker, but the maintainer is
aware
> and thinking of solutions.
> So basically, dear release team, do you want it soft or rough - and when do
> you want it?
> /Sune 
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