pkg kde talk - Jan 2009 - Bug#511287: debian-installer: Should have a task for installing KDE or XFCE instead of Gnome

On Fri, Jan 09, 2009 at 11:11:13AM +0100, Noel David Torres Ta??o wrote:
...
> Well, I''ll left it closed, but I was thinking in how newbie users
accustomed to KDE
> would install a Debian KDE computer without them being asked all the
''low'' questions
> and without having to type anything when they''re asked for
"graphical or text-mode" install.
> 
> XFCE was not the point, but the "extra goal". I knew how to do it
for myself, I was thinking in future Debian users.
Ah, that''s a slightly different point.

The fact that the installer installs Gnome by default is a consequence
of the generally accepted fact that some default -- any default -- is
better than none, especially for people who have heard of neither KDE,
Gnome, XFCE or anything else.

That said, anyone that _has_ heard of KDE should find all they want to
know here:

  http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde3.html

on the other hand, I''d guess that Debian newbies are most likely to end
up here:

  http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/

which does not appear to have a direct link to the installing page.

KDE Folks,
  Might I suggest that the front page be modified to have a link somewhere
  prominent, near the top, linking to the page about how to get KDE
  installed on debian

  Also, you should note that in Lenny the default desktop can be set by adding:

    desktop=kde

  at the boot prompt (which you can get to by hitting <TAB> in the boot
menu.

  Also, note that "desktop" in that case is an alias for
tasksel:tasksel/desktop
  so it can also be preseeded by providing a line like:

    tasksel tasksel/desktop string kde

  in a preseed file, so you could produce custom KDE media either by tweaking
the
  {sys,iso,pxe}linux.cfg files to include "desktop=kde", or by adding
a preseed.cfg
  to the root of your initrd image, containing the above line.

Cheers, Phil.

Hi,

IMHO, it''s too late to change things now for Lenny. But I guess,
we''ll need to
re-discuss the situation after Lenny release for KDE 4 series.

Especially when I read this:
http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3416

and the nice screenshot here:
http://en.opensuse.org/Image:OS11.0beta1-inst7.png
> That said, anyone that _has_ heard of KDE should find all they want to
> know here:
>
>   http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde3.html
>
> on the other hand, I''d guess that Debian newbies are most likely
to end up
> here:
>
>   http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/
>
> which does not appear to have a direct link to the installing page.
The link exist: on the left, in the menu, under "Try KDE!", "KDE
3.5"  is the
direct link to http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde3.html
> KDE Folks,
>   Might I suggest that the front page be modified to have a link somewhere
>   prominent, near the top, linking to the page about how to get KDE
>   installed on debian
>
>   Also, you should note that in Lenny the default desktop can be set by
> adding:
>
>     desktop=kde
>
>   at the boot prompt (which you can get to by hitting <TAB> in the
boot
> menu.
>
>   Also, note that "desktop" in that case is an alias for
> tasksel:tasksel/desktop so it can also be preseeded by providing a line
> like:
>
>     tasksel tasksel/desktop string kde
>
>   in a preseed file, so you could produce custom KDE media either by
> tweaking the {sys,iso,pxe}linux.cfg files to include
"desktop=kde", or by
> adding a preseed.cfg to the root of your initrd image, containing the above
> line.
Thanks, we will update the instructions for Lenny.

cheers,

Fathi

On Fri, Jan 09, 2009 at 11:12:12AM +0000, Philip Hands
wrote:
> 
> KDE Folks,
>   Might I suggest that the front page be modified to have a link somewhere
>   prominent, near the top, linking to the page about how to get KDE
>   installed on debian
> 
>   Also, you should note that in Lenny the default desktop can be set by
adding:
> 
>     desktop=kde
> 
>   at the boot prompt (which you can get to by hitting <TAB> in the
boot menu.
> 
>   Also, note that "desktop" in that case is an alias for
tasksel:tasksel/desktop
>   so it can also be preseeded by providing a line like:
> 
>     tasksel tasksel/desktop string kde
> 
>   in a preseed file, so you could produce custom KDE media either by
tweaking the
>   {sys,iso,pxe}linux.cfg files to include "desktop=kde", or by
adding a preseed.cfg
>   to the root of your initrd image, containing the above line.
>
I hope the website is a bit clearer now. Still have to update the instructions
for lenny.

Ana

On Friday 09 January 2009 17:18:42 Ana Guerrero wrote:
> I hope the website is a bit clearer now. Still have to update the
> instructions for lenny.
done.