pkg kde talk - Jul 2008 - [ANNOUNCE] Samba 3.2.0 Available for Download

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=============================================================			"Patience
is the companion of wisdom."
					       Saint Augustine
=============================================================
Release Announcements
====================
This is the first stable release of Samba 3.2.0.

Please be aware that Samba is now distributed under the version 3
of the new GNU General Public License.  You may refer to the COPYING
file that accompanies these release notes for further licensing details.

Major enhancements in Samba 3.2.0 include:

  File Serving:
  o Use of IDL generated parsing layer for several DCE/RPC
    interfaces.
  o Removal of the 1024 byte limit on pathnames and 256 byte limit on
    filename components to honor the MAX_PATH setting from the host OS.
  o Introduction of a registry based configuration system.
  o Improved CIFS Unix Extensions support.
  o Experimental support for file serving clusters.
  o Support for IPv6 in the server, and client tools and libraries.
  o Support for storing alternate data streams in xattrs.
  o Encrypted SMB transport in client tools and libraries, and server.
  o Support for Vista clients authenticating via Kerberos.

  Winbind and Active Directory Integration:
  o Full support for Windows 2003 cross-forest, transitive trusts
    and one-way domain trusts.
  o Support for userPrincipalName logons via pam_winbind and NSS
    lookups.
  o Expansion of nested domain groups via NSS calls.
  o Support for Active Directory LDAP Signing policy.
  o New LGPL Winbind client library (libwbclient.so).
  o Support for establishing interdomain trust relationships with
    Windows 2008.

  Joining:
  o New NetApi library for domain join related queries (libnetapi.so)
    and example GTK+ Domain join gui.
  o New client and server support for remotely joining and unjoining
    Domains.
  o Support for joining into Windows 2008 domains.

  Users & Groups:
  o New ldb backend for local group mapping tables
  o Raised level of security defaults for authentication operations.
  o New NetApi library for user account related queries.



Now Licensed under the GNU GPLv3
===============================
The Samba Team has adopted the Version 3 of the GNU General Public
License for the 3.2 and later releases.   The GPLv3 is the updated
version of the GPLv2 license under which Samba is currently
distributed. It has been updated to improve compatibility with other
licenses and to make it easier to adopt internationally, and is an
improved version of the license to better suit the needs of Free
Software in the 21st Century.

The original announcement is available on-line at

    http://news.samba.org/announcements/samba_gplv3/


New Security Defaults for Authentication
=======================================
Support for LanMan passwords is now disabled in both client and server
applications.  Additionally, clear text authentication requests are
disabled by default in client utilities such as smbclient and all
libsmbclient based applications.  This will affect connection both
to and from hosts running DOS, Windows 9x/ME, and OS/2.  Please refer
to the "Changes" section for details on the exact parameters that were
updated.


Registry Configuration Backend
=============================
Samba is now able to use a registry based configuration backed to
supplement smb.conf settings.  This feature may be enabled by setting
"config backend = registry" in the [global] section of smb.conf for a
registry only configuration, or by specifying "include = registry" to
include global options from registry for a mixed setup.

The new parameter "registry shares = yes" in the [global] section of
smb.conf can be used to activate share definitions from registry.
These shares are loaded on demand by the server. Registry shares are
automatically activated by the global registry options above.

The configuration stored in registry can be conveniently managed using
the "net conf" command.

More information may be obtained from the smb.conf(5) and net(8) man
pages.


Removed Features
===============
Both the Python bindings and the libmsrpc shared library have been
removed from the tree due to lack of an official maintainer.

As smbfs is no longer supported in current kernel versions, smbmount has
been removed in this Samba version. Please use cifs (mount.cifs) instead.
See examples/scripts/mount/mount.smbfs as an example for a wrapper which
calls mount.cifs instead of smbmount/mount.smbfs.


Modified API for libsmbclient
=============================================================================
Maintaining ABI compatibility for libsmbclient has become increasingly
difficult to accomplish, while also keeping the code organization such that it
is easily readable.  Towards the goal of maintaining ABI compatibility and
also keeping the code easy to maintain and enhance, the API has been enhanced.
In particular, the fields in the SMBCCTX context structure are no longer
intended to be read/write by the user, and are marked as deprecated.  An
application that previously accessed the members of the SMBCCTX context
structure will now encounter warnings if recompiled.  This is intentional, to
encourage implementation of the small changes required for the new interface.
The number of changes is expected to be quite small for the vast majority of
applications, and no changes need be made for many applications.  The changes
required for KDE (konqueror) to conform to the new interface, for example, are
only four lines in only one file.

Instead of the application manually changing or reading values in the context
structure, there are now setter and getter functions for each configurable
member in that structure.  Similarly, the smbc_option_get() and
smbc_option_set() functions are deprecated in favor of the setter/getter
interface.  The setters and getters are all documented in libsmbclient.h
under these comment blocks:

  Getters and setters for CONFIGURATION
  Getters and setters for OPTIONS
  Getters and setters for FUNCTIONS
  Callable functions for files
  Callable functions for directories
  Callable functions applicable to both files and directories

Example changes that may be required to eliminate "deprecated"
warnings:

  /* Set the debug level */
  context->debug = 99;
changes to:
  smbc_setDebug(context, 99);

  /* Specify the authentication callback function */
  context->callbacks.auth_fn = auth_smbc_get_data;
changes to:
  smbc_setFunctionAuthData(context, auth_smbc_get_data);

  /* Specify the new-style authentication callback with context parameter */
  smbc_option_set("auth_function", auth_smbc_get_data_with_ctx);
changes to:
  smbc_setFunctionAuthDataWithContext(context, auth_smbc_get_data_with_ctx);

  /* Set kerberos flags */
  context->flags = (SMB_CTX_FLAG_USE_KERBEROS |
                    SMB_CTX_FLAG_FALLBACK_AFTER_KERBEROS);
changes to:
  smbc_setOptionUseKerberos(context, 1);
  smbc_setOptionFallbackAfterKerberos(context, 1);




######################################################################
Changes
#######

smb.conf changes
- ----------------

    Parameter Name                      Description     Default
    --------------                      -----------     -------
    administrative share		New		No
    client lanman auth			Changed Default	No
    client ldap sasl wrapping		New		plain
    client plaintext auth		Changed Default	No
    clustering				New		No
    cluster addresses			New		""
    config backend			New		file
    ctdbd socket			New		""
    debug class				New		No
    lanman auth				Changed Default	No
    ldap connection timeout		New		2
    ldap debug level			New		0
    ldap debug threshold		New		10
    mangled map				Removed
    min receive file size		New             0
    open files database hashsize	Removed
    read bmpx				Removed
    registry shares			New		No
    smb encrypt				New		Auto
    winbind expand groups		New		1
    winbind rpc only			New		No

    New special meaning of "include = registry".


===============Download Details
===============
The uncompressed tarballs and patch files have been signed
using GnuPG (ID 6568B7EA).  The source code can be downloaded
from:

        http://download.samba.org/samba/ftp/

The release notes are available online at:

        http://www.samba.org/samba/ftp/history/samba-3.2.0.html

Binary packages will be made available on a volunteer basis from

        http://download.samba.org/samba/ftp/Binary_Packages/

Our Code, Our Bugs, Our Responsibility.
(https://bugzilla.samba.org/)

                        --Enjoy
                        The Samba Team



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=============================================================			"Patience
is the companion of wisdom."
					       Saint Augustine
=============================================================
Release Announcements
====================
This is the first stable release of Samba 3.2.0.

Please be aware that Samba is now distributed under the version 3
of the new GNU General Public License.  You may refer to the COPYING
file that accompanies these release notes for further licensing details.

Major enhancements in Samba 3.2.0 include:

  File Serving:
  o Use of IDL generated parsing layer for several DCE/RPC
    interfaces.
  o Removal of the 1024 byte limit on pathnames and 256 byte limit on
    filename components to honor the MAX_PATH setting from the host OS.
  o Introduction of a registry based configuration system.
  o Improved CIFS Unix Extensions support.
  o Experimental support for file serving clusters.
  o Support for IPv6 in the server, and client tools and libraries.
  o Support for storing alternate data streams in xattrs.
  o Encrypted SMB transport in client tools and libraries, and server.
  o Support for Vista clients authenticating via Kerberos.

  Winbind and Active Directory Integration:
  o Full support for Windows 2003 cross-forest, transitive trusts
    and one-way domain trusts.
  o Support for userPrincipalName logons via pam_winbind and NSS
    lookups.
  o Expansion of nested domain groups via NSS calls.
  o Support for Active Directory LDAP Signing policy.
  o New LGPL Winbind client library (libwbclient.so).
  o Support for establishing interdomain trust relationships with
    Windows 2008.

  Joining:
  o New NetApi library for domain join related queries (libnetapi.so)
    and example GTK+ Domain join gui.
  o New client and server support for remotely joining and unjoining
    Domains.
  o Support for joining into Windows 2008 domains.

  Users & Groups:
  o New ldb backend for local group mapping tables
  o Raised level of security defaults for authentication operations.
  o New NetApi library for user account related queries.



Now Licensed under the GNU GPLv3
===============================
The Samba Team has adopted the Version 3 of the GNU General Public
License for the 3.2 and later releases.   The GPLv3 is the updated
version of the GPLv2 license under which Samba is currently
distributed. It has been updated to improve compatibility with other
licenses and to make it easier to adopt internationally, and is an
improved version of the license to better suit the needs of Free
Software in the 21st Century.

The original announcement is available on-line at

    http://news.samba.org/announcements/samba_gplv3/


New Security Defaults for Authentication
=======================================
Support for LanMan passwords is now disabled in both client and server
applications.  Additionally, clear text authentication requests are
disabled by default in client utilities such as smbclient and all
libsmbclient based applications.  This will affect connection both
to and from hosts running DOS, Windows 9x/ME, and OS/2.  Please refer
to the "Changes" section for details on the exact parameters that were
updated.


Registry Configuration Backend
=============================
Samba is now able to use a registry based configuration backed to
supplement smb.conf settings.  This feature may be enabled by setting
"config backend = registry" in the [global] section of smb.conf for a
registry only configuration, or by specifying "include = registry" to
include global options from registry for a mixed setup.

The new parameter "registry shares = yes" in the [global] section of
smb.conf can be used to activate share definitions from registry.
These shares are loaded on demand by the server. Registry shares are
automatically activated by the global registry options above.

The configuration stored in registry can be conveniently managed using
the "net conf" command.

More information may be obtained from the smb.conf(5) and net(8) man
pages.


Removed Features
===============
Both the Python bindings and the libmsrpc shared library have been
removed from the tree due to lack of an official maintainer.

As smbfs is no longer supported in current kernel versions, smbmount has
been removed in this Samba version. Please use cifs (mount.cifs) instead.
See examples/scripts/mount/mount.smbfs as an example for a wrapper which
calls mount.cifs instead of smbmount/mount.smbfs.


Modified API for libsmbclient
=============================================================================
Maintaining ABI compatibility for libsmbclient has become increasingly
difficult to accomplish, while also keeping the code organization such that it
is easily readable.  Towards the goal of maintaining ABI compatibility and
also keeping the code easy to maintain and enhance, the API has been enhanced.
In particular, the fields in the SMBCCTX context structure are no longer
intended to be read/write by the user, and are marked as deprecated.  An
application that previously accessed the members of the SMBCCTX context
structure will now encounter warnings if recompiled.  This is intentional, to
encourage implementation of the small changes required for the new interface.
The number of changes is expected to be quite small for the vast majority of
applications, and no changes need be made for many applications.  The changes
required for KDE (konqueror) to conform to the new interface, for example, are
only four lines in only one file.

Instead of the application manually changing or reading values in the context
structure, there are now setter and getter functions for each configurable
member in that structure.  Similarly, the smbc_option_get() and
smbc_option_set() functions are deprecated in favor of the setter/getter
interface.  The setters and getters are all documented in libsmbclient.h
under these comment blocks:

  Getters and setters for CONFIGURATION
  Getters and setters for OPTIONS
  Getters and setters for FUNCTIONS
  Callable functions for files
  Callable functions for directories
  Callable functions applicable to both files and directories

Example changes that may be required to eliminate "deprecated"
warnings:

  /* Set the debug level */
  context->debug = 99;
changes to:
  smbc_setDebug(context, 99);

  /* Specify the authentication callback function */
  context->callbacks.auth_fn = auth_smbc_get_data;
changes to:
  smbc_setFunctionAuthData(context, auth_smbc_get_data);

  /* Specify the new-style authentication callback with context parameter */
  smbc_option_set("auth_function", auth_smbc_get_data_with_ctx);
changes to:
  smbc_setFunctionAuthDataWithContext(context, auth_smbc_get_data_with_ctx);

  /* Set kerberos flags */
  context->flags = (SMB_CTX_FLAG_USE_KERBEROS |
                    SMB_CTX_FLAG_FALLBACK_AFTER_KERBEROS);
changes to:
  smbc_setOptionUseKerberos(context, 1);
  smbc_setOptionFallbackAfterKerberos(context, 1);




######################################################################
Changes
#######

smb.conf changes
- ----------------

    Parameter Name                      Description     Default
    --------------                      -----------     -------
    administrative share		New		No
    client lanman auth			Changed Default	No
    client ldap sasl wrapping		New		plain
    client plaintext auth		Changed Default	No
    clustering				New		No
    cluster addresses			New		""
    config backend			New		file
    ctdbd socket			New		""
    debug class				New		No
    lanman auth				Changed Default	No
    ldap connection timeout		New		2
    ldap debug level			New		0
    ldap debug threshold		New		10
    mangled map				Removed
    min receive file size		New             0
    open files database hashsize	Removed
    read bmpx				Removed
    registry shares			New		No
    smb encrypt				New		Auto
    winbind expand groups		New		1
    winbind rpc only			New		No

    New special meaning of "include = registry".


===============Download Details
===============
The uncompressed tarballs and patch files have been signed
using GnuPG (ID 6568B7EA).  The source code can be downloaded
from:

        http://download.samba.org/samba/ftp/

The release notes are available online at:

        http://www.samba.org/samba/ftp/history/samba-3.2.0.html

Binary packages will be made available on a volunteer basis from

        http://download.samba.org/samba/ftp/Binary_Packages/

Our Code, Our Bugs, Our Responsibility.
(https://bugzilla.samba.org/)

                        --Enjoy
                        The Samba Team



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On Tue, Jul 01, 2008 at 05:59:01PM +0200, Karolin Seeger wrote:
[ 8< ]
> Binary packages will be made available on a volunteer basis from
> 
>         http://download.samba.org/samba/ftp/Binary_Packages/
RPM package installation sources of Samba 3.2.0 (STABLE) are
available at ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/samba/STABLE/

At ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/samba/TESTING/ you find at the moment the
same.  Soon there you find more recent snapshots, pre(views) and release
candiates.

Supported SUSE Linux based products currently are SUSE Linux 10.1, 10.2,
10.3, 11.0, SLES 9, SUSE Linux Enterprise (SLE) Desktop and Server 10,
and factory (i.e. the currently developed product).  For some
architectures - like ia64, ppc, s390(x) - you will find a limited
releases subset.

The same STABLE and TESTING package installation sources are also
available at http://download.Samba.org/samba/ftp/Binary_Packages/SuSE/

Please use a mirror close to your site.  A list of Samba.org mirrors is
available at http://Samba.org/  There choose a mirror at the right top
of the page.

There are also a number of SUSE mirrors.  A list of mirror sites is
available at http://en.opensuse.org/Mirrors_Released_Version

To support easier collaboration Samba packages are also provided by the
openSUSE Build Service (OBS).  Cf. http://en.opensuse.org/Build_Service/
and http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/network:/samba:/STABLE/ or
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/network:/samba:/TESTING/

The OBS supports an easy approach to create binary packages for CentOS,
Fedora, Mandriva, RedHat Enterprise (RHEL), SUSE Linux Enterprise (SLE),
and openSUSE.  Access is possible through https://build.openSUSE.org/
or a subversion-like command line tool named "OpenSUSE build service
command-line" (osc).  Bindings to perl are also available.  See
http://en.opensuse.org/Build_Service/CLI

If you encounter any problems with these packages please don''t blame
the
Samba Team.  Instead file a bug to https://bugzilla.Samba.org/, pick
product Samba 3.x, then select ''component'' Packaging and set
''assign to''
to samba-maintainers at suse dot de.  Or use http://bugzilla.Novell.com/
with the same assignee instead.

For general information about Samba as part of SUSE Linux based products
see http://en.openSUSE.org/Samba  For reporting bugs and how to collect
advanced debugging information see http://en.openSUSE.org/Bugs/Samba

Our customers, our products, our responsibility.

Have a lot of fun...

Lars Müller - for the Novell Samba Team
-- 
Lars Müller [ˈlaː(r)z ˈmʏlɐ]
Samba Team
SUSE Linux, Maxfeldstraße 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany

On Tue, Jul 01, 2008 at 05:59:01PM +0200, Karolin Seeger
wrote:
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> =============================================================> 		
"Patience is the companion of wisdom."
> 					       Saint Augustine
> =============================================================> 
> Release Announcements
> ====================> 
> This is the first stable release of Samba 3.2.0.
Great work Karolin - thanks a *lot* for driving
this release !

Jeremy.

On 2008/07/01 17:59 (GMT+0200) Karolin Seeger apparently typed:
> As smbfs is no longer supported in current kernel versions, smbmount has
> been removed in this Samba version. Please use cifs (mount.cifs) instead.
> See examples/scripts/mount/mount.smbfs as an example for a wrapper which
> calls mount.cifs instead of smbmount/mount.smbfs.
When was the last timestamp bug quashed? If it has not in fact been quashed,
then there is NO usable connectivity with OS/2 as of this release.
-- 
"Where were you when I laid the earth's
foundation?"		       Matthew 7:12 NIV

 Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409

Felix Miata  ***  http://fm.no-ip.com/

Quoting Karolin Seeger <ks@sernet.de>:
> Release Announcements
> ====================>
> This is the first stable release of Samba 3.2.0.
>
> Please be aware that Samba is now distributed under the version 3
> of the new GNU General Public License.  You may refer to the COPYING
> file that accompanies these release notes for further licensing details.
Thanks!

Ubuntu Hardy packages are available from my PPA:
http://launchpad.net/~pgquiles/+archive

-- 
Pau Garcia i Quiles
http://www.elpauer.org
(Due to my workload, I may need 10 days to answer)

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sinisa wrote:
> Karolin Seeger wrote:
>> Release Announcements
>> ====================>>
>> This is the first stable release of Samba 3.2.0.
>>
>> Please be aware that Samba is now distributed under the version 3
>> of the new GNU General Public License.  You may refer to the COPYING
>> file that accompanies these release notes for further licensing
details.
>>
>> Major enhancements in Samba 3.2.0 include:
>>
>>   File Serving:
>>   Winbind and Active Directory Integration:
>>    Joining:
>>   Users & Groups:
>>
> Missing from release candidate annoucements:
> 
>>   Documentation:
>>   o Inclusion of an HTML version of the 3rd edition of "Using
Samba"
>>     from O''Reilly Publishing.
It was pulled I believe because I didn''t get it into
the docs build dependencies.

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sinisa wrote:
> Karolin Seeger wrote:
>> Release Announcements
>> ====================>>
>> This is the first stable release of Samba 3.2.0.
>>
>> Please be aware that Samba is now distributed under the version 3
>> of the new GNU General Public License.  You may refer to the COPYING
>> file that accompanies these release notes for further licensing
details.
>>
>> Major enhancements in Samba 3.2.0 include:
>>
>>   File Serving:
>>   Winbind and Active Directory Integration:
>>    Joining:
>>   Users & Groups:
>>
> Missing from release candidate annoucements:
> 
>>   Documentation:
>>   o Inclusion of an HTML version of the 3rd edition of "Using
Samba"
>>     from O'Reilly Publishing.
It was pulled I believe because I didn't get it into
the docs build dependencies.

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Congratulations to samba team on the release of 3.2 !
> > Missing from release candidate annoucements:
>
> >>   Documentation:
> >>   o Inclusion of an HTML version of the 3rd edition of "Using
Samba"
> >>     from O'Reilly Publishing.
>
> It was pulled I believe because I didn't get it into
> the docs build dependencies.
>
Jerry, will "Using Samba", third edition be included in the next
release ?

Lasantha.

On Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 07:28:50AM +0200, Christian Perrier
wrote:
> > This is the first stable release of Samba 3.2.0.
> OK, now we have to make the decision: shall we provide it in lenny?
> I was initially against that (too close to the release, follow release
> managers'' wish to not bump upstream versions too close from the
> release, etc.) but upstream insisted for us to use 3.2 in our next
> stable release.
> Steve seemed also in favour of providing 3.2 *if we can*.
> So, I''m now more inclined to say "let''s go for
it".
> The only blocker I see are licensing reasons. GPLv3 and programs that
> build against libsmbclient.
> I have not investigated this yet because I think that Steve would be
> more efficient than me on this..:-)
Here''s the original list of packages I found in Debian that depended on
libsmbclient and appeared to be licensed GPL v2 only according to
debian/copyright:

gnome-cups-manager
mplayer
smbc
smbnetfs

And then, of course, we have kdebase.

Jelmer pointed out back then that smbc is listed upstream as having an "or
later" license.

I''ve inspected the gnome-cups-manager source, and all references to the
GPL
in the upstream source actually have the "or later" boilerplate.

A second look at mplayer shows debian/copyright currently quotes the "or
later" boilerplate, so I''m willing to assume this is applicable to
the whole
work.

The current version of smbnetfs in the archive also lists "or any later
version".

That leaves only kdebase to resolve.

I''ve heard from Simo Sorce, the member of the Samba Team who''s
responsible
for samba packaging at Red Hat, that they consider the license issue
resolved and that the next version of Fedora will include samba 3.2 only,
with KDE linked against it.

Can the KDE team confirm that this is accurate, and whether the relicensing
of kdebase applies to the 3.5.9 version currently in lenny, or if it only
applies to KDE 4 versions?

I think either way we should try to push forward with samba 3.2 for lenny;
it''s just a question of whether we also have to invest time into
getting a
GPLv2 libsmbclient package ready.

-- 
Steve Langasek                   Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS
Debian Developer                   to set it on, and I can move the world.
Ubuntu Developer                                    http://www.debian.org/
slangasek at ubuntu.com                                     vorlon at debian.org

On Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 12:47:03AM -0700, Steve Langasek
wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 07:28:50AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote:
> > > This is the first stable release of Samba 3.2.0.
> 
> > OK, now we have to make the decision: shall we provide it in lenny?
> 
> > I was initially against that (too close to the release, follow release
> > managers'' wish to not bump upstream versions too close from
the
> > release, etc.) but upstream insisted for us to use 3.2 in our next
> > stable release.
> 
> > Steve seemed also in favour of providing 3.2 *if we can*.
> 
> > So, I''m now more inclined to say "let''s go for
it".
> 
> > The only blocker I see are licensing reasons. GPLv3 and programs that
> > build against libsmbclient.
> 
> > I have not investigated this yet because I think that Steve would be
> > more efficient than me on this..:-)
> 
> Here''s the original list of packages I found in Debian that
depended on
> libsmbclient and appeared to be licensed GPL v2 only according to
> debian/copyright:
> 
> gnome-cups-manager
> mplayer
> smbc
> smbnetfs
> 
> And then, of course, we have kdebase.
> 
> Jelmer pointed out back then that smbc is listed upstream as having an
"or
> later" license.
> 
> I''ve inspected the gnome-cups-manager source, and all references
to the GPL
> in the upstream source actually have the "or later" boilerplate.
> 
> A second look at mplayer shows debian/copyright currently quotes the
"or
> later" boilerplate, so I''m willing to assume this is
applicable to the whole
> work.
> 
> The current version of smbnetfs in the archive also lists "or any
later
> version".
> 
> That leaves only kdebase to resolve.
> 
> I''ve heard from Simo Sorce, the member of the Samba Team
who''s responsible
> for samba packaging at Red Hat, that they consider the license issue
> resolved and that the next version of Fedora will include samba 3.2 only,
> with KDE linked against it.
> 
> Can the KDE team confirm that this is accurate, and whether the relicensing
> of kdebase applies to the 3.5.9 version currently in lenny, or if it only
> applies to KDE 4 versions?
> 
> I think either way we should try to push forward with samba 3.2 for lenny;
> it''s just a question of whether we also have to invest time into
getting a
> GPLv2 libsmbclient package ready.
>

When we talked about this some months ago, nobody looked at the exact KDE files 
because the main blocker was Qt3 licence, but this was updated in the beginning 
of this year to GPL v3 too and current qt3 is lenny has an updated copyright
file.

Then, in kdebase it seems the only code that links against libsmbclient is the 
smb kioslave, the code is placed at kdebase/kioslave/smb/ and all the headers 
say GPL v2.1 or later. If somebody wants to take a quick check to see if i am
overlooking something is welcome.

About KDE 4, Qt4 is gpl v3 too and what needs libsmbclient should be looked
at, but a relicensing in this case will be easy to get, i think :)

Ana

[1] http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/KDE_Relicensing

Quoting Ana Guerrero (ana at debian.org):
> Then, in kdebase it seems the only code that links against libsmbclient is
the
> smb kioslave, the code is placed at kdebase/kioslave/smb/ and all the
headers
> say GPL v2.1 or later. If somebody wants to take a quick check to see if i
am
> overlooking something is welcome.

So, as of now and unless someone stands up and objects loudly, it
seems we can move along and work to upload 3.2.0 in unstable. Correct?


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On Wednesday 02 July 2008 15:48:55 Ana Guerrero wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 12:47:03AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > That leaves only kdebase to resolve.
> >
> > I''ve heard from Simo Sorce, the member of the Samba Team
who''s
> > responsible for samba packaging at Red Hat, that they consider the
> > license issue resolved and that the next version of Fedora will
include
> > samba 3.2 only, with KDE linked against it.
Fedora ships kde4. (+kde3libs +a very cut down version of kde3base)
> > Can the KDE team confirm that this is accurate, and whether the
> > relicensing of kdebase applies to the 3.5.9 version currently in
lenny,
> > or if it only applies to KDE 4 versions?
as far as I know, the relicensing effort of KDE is primarily targetted at KDE4. 
One of the major blockers were Qt, which is resolved.
> > I think either way we should try to push forward with samba 3.2 for
> > lenny; it''s just a question of whether we also have to invest
time into
> > getting a GPLv2 libsmbclient package ready.
>
> When we talked about this some months ago, nobody looked at the exact KDE
> files because the main blocker was Qt3 licence, but this was updated in the
> beginning of this year to GPL v3 too and current qt3 is lenny has an
> updated copyright file.
>
> Then, in kdebase it seems the only code that links against libsmbclient is
> the smb kioslave, the code is placed at kdebase/kioslave/smb/ and all the
> headers say GPL v2.1 or later. If somebody wants to take a quick check to
> see if i am overlooking something is welcome.
But kdelibs needs also to get a look. At least in theory, it is LGPL, but it 
is some time ago I have last reviewed all files in kdelibs.
> About KDE 4, Qt4 is gpl v3 too and what needs libsmbclient should be looked
> at, but a relicensing in this case will be easy to get, i think :)
Yeah. And there is also more help to get from other distributions.

/Sune
> [1] http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/KDE_Relicensing
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On Thu, Jul 03, 2008 at 08:32:59AM +0200, Sune Vuorela
wrote:
> > > I think either way we should try to push forward with samba 3.2
for
> > > lenny; it''s just a question of whether we also have to
invest time into
> > > getting a GPLv2 libsmbclient package ready.
> > When we talked about this some months ago, nobody looked at the exact
KDE
> > files because the main blocker was Qt3 licence, but this was updated
in the
> > beginning of this year to GPL v3 too and current qt3 is lenny has an
> > updated copyright file.
> > Then, in kdebase it seems the only code that links against
libsmbclient is
> > the smb kioslave, the code is placed at kdebase/kioslave/smb/ and all
the
> > headers say GPL v2.1 or later. If somebody wants to take a quick check
to
> > see if i am overlooking something is welcome.
> But kdelibs needs also to get a look. At least in theory, it is LGPL, but
it
> is some time ago I have last reviewed all files in kdelibs.
So at this point, we in the Debian Samba team are operating on the
assumption that the GPLv3 compatibility issues for KDE libsmbclient support
have been sorted out, or that any remaining issues can be sorted out before
release, and that we''re ok to ship Samba 3.2.0 in lenny without also
providing a 3.0 library for license compatibility.

Thanks for your feedback.

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