Pkg exim4 users - Nov 2009 - pipe_transport unset in system_aliases router

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Hey guys

My first post to this list, but i am about to rip my hair out so sorry
if i come across annoyed.

I''ve been trying to setup mailman with exim, I''ve followed
like 100''s
of different documentations and not one of them worked. exim4-config
sets up exim to handle mail as a basic mail server pretty well. The
error is when posting to the list i get "pipe_transport unset in
system_aliases router" and the /etc/aliases are there but it
doesn''t
seem to pick them up so i read nothing but mailing lists, which isn''t
documentation lol.

But to fix my problem all i find is i need to add this to the routers
section pipe_transport = address_pipe, but my config is auto-generated
and is located: /var/lib/exim4/config.autogenerated

And when i add anything to this and restart it omits any changes and i
have no idea what to do. No-one in irc #debian is helping and I''ve
bugged the #exim guys to death and the #mailman guys lol.

Why does the config have to be 800+ lines long lol?

- --Phil
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On Wednesday 18 November 2009 15:45:16 Philip Herron
wrote:
> But to fix my problem all i find is i need to add this to the routers
> section pipe_transport = address_pipe, but my config is auto-generated
> and is located: /var/lib/exim4/config.autogenerated
Check /etc/exim4 for the source files from which that file is generated.  
After editing, I believe you can run update-exim4.conf to regenerate 
/var/lib/exim4/config.autogenerated.
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Hey

Thanks for the reply but that is the problem, i cant seem to add to my
config file when i add to the

/var/lib/exim4/config.autogenerated

and then i restart exim it regenerates itself again and my changes are
gone :S i must have done something really wrong its bugged the hell
out of me today :(

- --Phil

James Riach wrote:
> Hi Phil,
>
> I followed some guide to setup mailman but not sure which one, it
> works so maybe posting what I have setup will help?
>
> First I define a bunch of mailman macros at the top of my config:
>
> # Mailman Macros MM_HOME = /var/lib/mailman MM_UID = list MM_GID > list
MM_WRAP = MM_HOME/mail/mailman MM_LISTCHK >
MM_HOME/lists/${lc::$local_part}/config.pck
>
> Then in the routers section I have:
>
> mailman_router: driver            = accept domains        > jriach.co.uk
require_files        = MM_LISTCHK
> local_part_suffix_optional local_part_suffix    = -admin :\
> -bounces : -bounces+* :\ -confirm : -confirm+* :\ -join : -leave :\
>  -owner : -request :\ -subscribe : -unsubscribe transport        >
mailman_send
>
> Then in the transport section I have:
>
> mailman_send: driver            = pipe command        = MM_WRAP \
> ''${if def:local_part_suffix \
> {${sg{$local_part_suffix}{-(\\w+)(\\+.*)?}{\$1}}} \ {post}}'' \
> $local_part current_directory    = MM_HOME home_directory    > MM_HOME
user            = MM_UID group            = MM_GID
>
> I hope that helps, it works an absolute treat for me :)
>
> James
>
> Philip Herron wrote: Hey guys
>
> My first post to this list, but i am about to rip my hair out so
> sorry if i come across annoyed.
>
> I''ve been trying to setup mailman with exim, I''ve
followed like
> 100''s of different documentations and not one of them worked.
> exim4-config sets up exim to handle mail as a basic mail server
> pretty well. The error is when posting to the list i get
> "pipe_transport unset in system_aliases router" and the
> /etc/aliases are there but it doesn''t seem to pick them up so i
> read nothing but mailing lists, which isn''t documentation lol.
>
> But to fix my problem all i find is i need to add this to the
> routers section pipe_transport = address_pipe, but my config is
> auto-generated and is located: /var/lib/exim4/config.autogenerated
>
> And when i add anything to this and restart it omits any changes
> and i have no idea what to do. No-one in irc #debian is helping and
> I''ve bugged the #exim guys to death and the #mailman guys lol.
>
> Why does the config have to be 800+ lines long lol?
>
> --Phil
>>
>>
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Hi Phil,

I followed some guide to setup mailman but not sure which one, it works 
so maybe posting what I have setup will help?

First I define a bunch of mailman macros at the top of my config:

# Mailman Macros
MM_HOME = /var/lib/mailman
MM_UID = list
MM_GID = list
MM_WRAP = MM_HOME/mail/mailman
MM_LISTCHK = MM_HOME/lists/${lc::$local_part}/config.pck

Then in the routers section I have:

mailman_router:
    driver            = accept
    domains        = jriach.co.uk
    require_files        = MM_LISTCHK
    local_part_suffix_optional
    local_part_suffix    = -admin :\
                -bounces : -bounces+* :\
                -confirm : -confirm+* :\
                -join : -leave :\
                -owner : -request :\
                -subscribe : -unsubscribe
    transport        = mailman_send

Then in the transport section I have:

mailman_send:
    driver            = pipe
    command        = MM_WRAP \
                ''${if def:local_part_suffix \
                {${sg{$local_part_suffix}{-(\\w+)(\\+.*)?}{\$1}}} \
                {post}}'' \
                $local_part
    current_directory    = MM_HOME
    home_directory    = MM_HOME
    user            = MM_UID
    group            = MM_GID

I hope that helps, it works an absolute treat for me :)

James

Philip Herron wrote:
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> Hey guys
>
> My first post to this list, but i am about to rip my hair out so sorry
> if i come across annoyed.
>
> I''ve been trying to setup mailman with exim, I''ve
followed like 100''s
> of different documentations and not one of them worked. exim4-config
> sets up exim to handle mail as a basic mail server pretty well. The
> error is when posting to the list i get "pipe_transport unset in
> system_aliases router" and the /etc/aliases are there but it
doesn''t
> seem to pick them up so i read nothing but mailing lists, which
isn''t
> documentation lol.
>
> But to fix my problem all i find is i need to add this to the routers
> section pipe_transport = address_pipe, but my config is auto-generated
> and is located: /var/lib/exim4/config.autogenerated
>
> And when i add anything to this and restart it omits any changes and i
> have no idea what to do. No-one in irc #debian is helping and I''ve
> bugged the #exim guys to death and the #mailman guys lol.
>
> Why does the config have to be 800+ lines long lol?
>
> - --Phil
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Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> On Wednesday 18 November 2009 15:45:16 Philip Herron wrote:
>> But to fix my problem all i find is i need to add this to the
>> routers section pipe_transport = address_pipe, but my config is
>> auto-generated and is located:
>> /var/lib/exim4/config.autogenerated
>
> Check /etc/exim4 for the source files from which that file is
> generated. After editing, I believe you can run update-exim4.conf
> to regenerate /var/lib/exim4/config.autogenerated.
>
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>
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If i am honest here, this is just really complicated my head is
melting isn''t there some do x y and z and it WILL work? to fix this
problem i don''t want to bother with exim auto figuring out the mailman
aliases itself i want to keep it in the /etc/aliases for now to keep
it simple. There are so many config''s all over the show where should i
add entries? some documentations got me to just create files and add
stuff is the configuration language pretty much a macro language?
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On Wednesday 18 November 2009 16:14:51 Philip Herron
wrote:
> Thanks for the reply but that is the problem, i cant seem to add to my
> config file when i add to the
> 
> /var/lib/exim4/config.autogenerated
> 
> and then i restart exim it regenerates itself again and my changes are
> gone :S i must have done something really wrong its bugged the hell
> out of me today :(
*Don''t edit autogenerated files.*  Edit the files under /etc/exim4,
which are
used as input to the generation routine.
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Philip Herron wrote:
>If i am honest here, this is just really complicated my head is
>melting isn''t there some do x y and z and it WILL work? 
Absolutely.  When I configure Mailman on Debian I just copy and paste the
configuration fragments from /usr/share/doc/mailman/README.Exim4.Debian (this is
from Lenny packages, Etch packages don''t have this file iirc).

Thanks.
Andrew.

On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:45:16 +0000
Philip Herron <herron.philip at googlemail.com> wrote:
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> Hey guys
> 
> My first post to this list, but i am about to rip my hair out so sorry
> if i come across annoyed.
> 
> I''ve been trying to setup mailman with exim, I''ve
followed like 100''s
> of different documentations and not one of them worked. exim4-config
> sets up exim to handle mail as a basic mail server pretty well. The
> error is when posting to the list i get "pipe_transport unset in
> system_aliases router" and the /etc/aliases are there but it
doesn''t
> seem to pick them up so i read nothing but mailing lists, which
isn''t
> documentation lol.
> 
> But to fix my problem all i find is i need to add this to the routers
> section pipe_transport = address_pipe, but my config is auto-generated
> and is located: /var/lib/exim4/config.autogenerated
>             
> And when i add anything to this and restart it omits any changes and i
> have no idea what to do. No-one in irc #debian is helping and I''ve
> bugged the #exim guys to death and the #mailman guys lol.
> 
> Why does the config have to be 800+ lines long lol?
(its a full blown mail server / macro language)

Hi Phil,
mate you can edit that file all you like shes not gunna touch it (well not in a
good sense) ...
best edit the stuff under /etc/exim/

I use the split conf style as then its in easier to digest pieces.
On this debian system the single conf style uses :
/etc/exim4/exim4.conf.template

They both should reference update.exim4.conf.conf
Read the head of that file(s)

yeah its a little bizzzaaar at first but actually works really well :)


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On Qua, 18 Nov 2009, Philip Herron wrote:
> Thanks for the reply but that is the problem, i cant seem to add to my
> config file when i add to the
>
> /var/lib/exim4/config.autogenerated
>
> and then i restart exim it regenerates itself again and my changes are
> gone :S i must have done something really wrong its bugged the hell
> out of me today :(
The name says it''s autogenerated, so changes will be lost. You have to
edit the source files. You''ll probably find reading the  
debian-specific README useful:

http://pkg-exim4.alioth.debian.org/README/README.Debian.html


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On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:14:51PM +0000, Philip Herron
wrote:
> Thanks for the reply but that is the problem, i cant seem to add to my
> config file when i add to the
> 
> /var/lib/exim4/config.autogenerated
> 
> and then i restart exim it regenerates itself again and my changes are
> gone :S i must have done something really wrong its bugged the hell
> out of me today :(
#########
# WARNING WARNING WARNING
# WARNING WARNING WARNING
# WARNING WARNING WARNING
# WARNING WARNING WARNING
# WARNING WARNING WARNING
# This file is generated dynamically from the files in
# the conf.d/ directory, or from exim4.conf.template respectively.
# Additional information is read from update-exim4.conf.conf
# This version of the file was created from the directory /etc/exim4
# Any changes you make here will be lost.
# See /usr/share/doc/exim4-base/README.Debian.gz and update-exim4.conf(8)
# for instructions of customization.
# WARNING WARNING WARNING
# WARNING WARNING WARNING
# WARNING WARNING WARNING
# WARNING WARNING WARNING
# WARNING WARNING WARNING
#########

Do we need to make the warning more explicit?

Greetings
Marc

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Hi,

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 09:45:16PM +0000, Philip Herron
wrote:
> Why does the config have to be 800+ lines long lol?
Because exim without config is rather dumb and needs a lot of
explaining in the config to know that it''s a mail server. This is the
root of exim''s flexibility.

Greetings
Marc

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