Hello all, If i do a ps I see multiple copies of exim4 running Example: ps -elf |grep exim 5 S 102 10581 1 0 80 0 - 3492 - 14:00 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 10709 10581 0 80 0 - 3494 - 14:15 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 10722 10581 0 80 0 - 3494 - 14:15 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m I see that 10581 is the one started by init.d/exim4 and all the rest are child processes of it. This is a very low volume server, I see about 20 emails per day. System info: OS: Debian Lenny (Linux scoil 2.6.26-1-686 #1 SMP Wed Nov 26 19:14:11 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux) Exim 4.69 Any ideas? -- Gerard Hooton Systems Administrator Scoil an Chro? R? Naofa Blarney. Co. Cork
Can any one help me with this. The number of processes grows to a point where I get "too many connections" messages in the log file and the server stops excepting emials. Thanks //Ger "Gerard Hooton" <ghooton at bbns.ie> wrote:> > Hello all, > > > If i do a ps I see multiple copies of exim4 running > > > Example: > > > ps -elf |grep exim > 5 S 102 10581 1 0 80 0 - 3492 - 14:00 ? 00:00:00 > /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m > 1 S 102 10709 10581 0 80 0 - 3494 - 14:15 ? 00:00:00 > /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m > 1 S 102 10722 10581 0 80 0 - 3494 - 14:15 ? 00:00:00 > /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m > > > I see that 10581 is the one started by init.d/exim4 and all the rest are > child processes of it. > > > This is a very low volume server, I see about 20 emails per day. > > > System info: > > > OS: Debian Lenny (Linux scoil 2.6.26-1-686 #1 SMP Wed Nov 26 19:14:11 UTC > 2008 i686 GNU/Linux) > > > Exim 4.69 > > > Any ideas? > > > -- > Gerard Hooton > Systems Administrator > Scoil an Chro? R? Naofa > Blarney. > Co. Cork > > > _______________________________________________ > Pkg-exim4-users mailing list > Pkg-exim4-users at lists.alioth.debian.org > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-exim4-users >-- Gerard Hooton Systems Administrator Blarney Boy''s National School, Blarney. Co. Cork
On Fri, Jan 09, 2009 at 05:22:39PM +0000, Gerard Hooton wrote:> Can any one help me with this. > The number of processes grows to a point where I get > "too many connections" messages in the log file and the server stops > excepting emials.This is normal. I have just checked on one of our mail servers and ''ps aux | grep -c [e]xim'' shows ''30''. The ''too many connections'' message in the log is just one of the mechanisms to protect your system against overloading. You can specify how many connections you want to allow. Regards Johann -- Johann Spies Telefoon: 021-808 4036 Informasietegnologie, Universiteit van Stellenbosch "For the LORD is good; his mercy is everlasting; and his truth endureth to all generations." Psalms 100:5
Thanks Johann for you reply, My understanding is that for each connection a new exim4 process is started. When the connection is dropped (completed the delivery of a message to the server for example) then that process should die ?? It would appear that on my system the process remains after the connection drops. Is my understanding on this correct? Also, where do specify how many connections I want to allow? I have split config files on my debian server. //Ger "Johann Spies" <jspies at sun.ac.za> wrote:> On Fri, Jan 09, 2009 at 05:22:39PM +0000, Gerard Hooton wrote: >> Can any one help me with this. >> The number of processes grows to a point where I get >> "too many connections" messages in the log file and the server stops >> excepting emials. > > This is normal. > > I have just checked on one of our mail servers and ''ps aux | grep -c > [e]xim'' shows ''30''. > > The ''too many connections'' message in the log is just one of the > mechanisms to protect your system against overloading. You can > specify how many connections you want to allow. > > Regards > Johann > > -- > Johann Spies Telefoon: 021-808 4036 > Informasietegnologie, Universiteit van Stellenbosch > > "For the LORD is good; his mercy is everlasting; and > his truth endureth to all generations." > Psalms 100:5 > > _______________________________________________ > Pkg-exim4-users mailing list > Pkg-exim4-users at lists.alioth.debian.org > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-exim4-users >-- Gerard Hooton Systems Administrator Blarney Boy''s National School, Blarney. Co. Cork
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 10:35:08AM +0000, Gerard Hooton wrote:> Thanks Johann for you reply, > My understanding is that for each connection a new exim4 process is started. > When the connection is dropped (completed the delivery of a message to the > server for example) then > that process should die ?? It would appear that on my system the process > remains after the connection drops. > Is my understanding on this correct?You will see separate processes of exim like this: 2287 ? S 0:00 \_ /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q1m 2289 ? S 0:00 \_ /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q1m 2291 ? S 0:00 \_ /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q1m 2296 ttyp2 S+ 0:00 | \_ grep exim 29446 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -Mc 1LMLKK-0007es-NQ 30092 ? S 0:00 \_ /usr/sbin/exim4 -Mc 1LMLKK-0007es-NQ 2147 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -Mc 1LMLP9-0000YV-Ma 2150 ? S 0:00 \_ /usr/sbin/exim4 -Mc 1LMLP9-0000YV-Ma The ones with the -bd -q1m are the daemons. The others are instances handling specific messages. You can see what exim is doing running ''exiwhat''.> > Also, where do specify how many connections I want to allow? > I have split config files on my debian server.Search Exim''s spec.txt.gz for smtp_accept_max and you will find your answers. Regards Johann -- Johann Spies Telefoon: 021-808 4036 Informasietegnologie, Universiteit van Stellenbosch "For the LORD is good; his mercy is everlasting; and his truth endureth to all generations." Psalms 100:5
when I run exiwhat I get :- scoil:~# exiwhat 1877 daemon: -q30m, listening for SMTP on [87.33.113.4]:25 When I dp ps I get :- scoil:~# ps -elf |grep exim 5 S 102 1877 1 0 80 0 - 3493 - Jan12 ? 00:00:01 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 4691 1877 0 80 0 - 3495 - Jan12 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 5301 1877 0 80 0 - 3495 - Jan12 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 5308 1877 0 80 0 - 3495 - Jan12 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 5310 1877 0 80 0 - 3495 - Jan12 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 5311 1877 0 80 0 - 3495 - Jan12 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 5804 1877 0 80 0 - 3495 - Jan12 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 6305 1877 0 80 0 - 3495 - Jan12 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 6310 1877 0 80 0 - 3495 - Jan12 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 6312 1877 0 80 0 - 3495 - Jan12 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 6319 1877 0 80 0 - 3495 - Jan12 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 6365 1877 0 80 0 - 3495 - Jan12 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 6382 1877 0 80 0 - 3495 - Jan12 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 6815 1877 0 80 0 - 3495 - Jan12 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 7095 1877 0 80 0 - 3495 - Jan12 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 7099 1877 0 80 0 - 3495 - Jan12 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 7100 1877 0 80 0 - 3495 - Jan12 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 7101 1877 0 80 0 - 3495 - Jan12 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 7913 1877 0 80 0 - 3495 - 00:47 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 7917 1877 0 80 0 - 3495 - 00:48 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 7918 1877 0 80 0 - 3495 - 00:48 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 7919 1877 0 80 0 - 3495 - 00:48 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 9351 1877 0 80 0 - 3495 - 04:47 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 9354 1877 0 80 0 - 3495 - 04:48 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 9517 1877 0 80 0 - 3495 - 05:12 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 9520 1877 0 80 0 - 3495 - 05:12 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 9521 1877 0 80 0 - 3495 - 05:12 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 9527 1877 0 80 0 - 3495 - 05:14 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 0 S root 27157 27079 0 80 0 - 546 - 08:58 pts/0 00:00:00 grep exim "Johann Spies" <jspies at sun.ac.za> wrote:> On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 10:35:08AM +0000, Gerard Hooton wrote: >> Thanks Johann for you reply, >> My understanding is that for each connection a new exim4 process isstarted.>> When the connection is dropped (completed the delivery of a message tothe>> server for example) then >> that process should die ?? It would appear that on my system the process >> remains after the connection drops. >> Is my understanding on this correct? > > You will see separate processes of exim like this: > > 2287 ? S 0:00 \_ /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q1m > 2289 ? S 0:00 \_ /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q1m > 2291 ? S 0:00 \_ /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q1m > 2296 ttyp2 S+ 0:00 | \_ grep exim > 29446 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -Mc 1LMLKK-0007es-NQ > 30092 ? S 0:00 \_ /usr/sbin/exim4 -Mc 1LMLKK-0007es-NQ > 2147 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -Mc 1LMLP9-0000YV-Ma > 2150 ? S 0:00 \_ /usr/sbin/exim4 -Mc 1LMLP9-0000YV-Ma > > The ones with the -bd -q1m are the daemons. The others are instances > handling specific messages. You can see what exim is doing running > ''exiwhat''. > >> >> Also, where do specify how many connections I want to allow? >> I have split config files on my debian server. > > Search Exim''s spec.txt.gz for smtp_accept_max and you will find your > answers. > > Regards > Johann > > -- > Johann Spies Telefoon: 021-808 4036 > Informasietegnologie, Universiteit van Stellenbosch > > "For the LORD is good; his mercy is everlasting; and > his truth endureth to all generations." > Psalms 100:5 > > _______________________________________________ > Pkg-exim4-users mailing list > Pkg-exim4-users at lists.alioth.debian.org > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-exim4-users >-- Gerard Hooton Systems Administrator Blarney Boy''s National School, Blarney. Co. Cork
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 09:00:53AM +0000, Gerard Hooton wrote:> when I run exiwhat I get :- > > scoil:~# exiwhat > 1877 daemon: -q30m, listening for SMTP on [87.33.113.4]:25Which shows exim is not doing much at the moment.> When I dp ps I get :-too many instances of the daemon especially when it is apparently not handling any messages. I am not sure why but that was not ther reason for your original ''too many connections'' message. As far as I know exim it should kill the idle sub-processes. Do you use any other processes that exim may be waiting for to finish like virus or spam scanning? Regards Johann -- Johann Spies Telefoon: 021-808 4036 Informasietegnologie, Universiteit van Stellenbosch "Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall." I Corinthians 10:12
Maybe this is related to an issue I had with exim3. It''s a regexp error in /usr/sbin/exiwhat. It matches processes with either "/exim " or "/exim$" ($ being end of line). The exim init script starts exim processes as exim4; only after a reload (SIGHUP) exim respawns itself as exim without the 4. Try changing /usr/sbin/exiwhat: change the line egrep_arg=''/exim( |$)'' into egrep_arg=''/exim( |$|4 |4$)'' and then try running it again. HTH, Maarten On Tue, 13 Jan 2009, Gerard Hooton wrote:> when I run exiwhat I get :- > > scoil:~# exiwhat > 1877 daemon: -q30m, listening for SMTP on [87.33.113.4]:25 > > When I dp ps I get :- > > scoil:~# ps -elf |grep exim > 5 S 102 1877 1 0 80 0 - 3493 - Jan12 ? 00:00:01 > /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m > 1 S 102 4691 1877 0 80 0 - 3495 - Jan12 ? 00:00:00 > /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m > 1 S 102 5301 1877 0 80 0 - 3495 - Jan12 ? 00:00:00 > /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m > 1 S 102 5308 1877 0 80 0 - 3495 - Jan12 ? 00:00:00 > /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m > 1 S 102 5310 1877 0 80 0 - 3495 - Jan12 ? 00:00:00 > /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m > 1 S 102 5311 1877 0 80 0 - 3495 - Jan12 ? 00:00:00 > /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m > 1 S 102 5804 1877 0 80 0 - 3495 - Jan12 ? 00:00:00 > /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m > 1 S 102 6305 1877 0 80 0 - 3495 - Jan12 ? 00:00:00 > /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m > 1 S 102 6310 1877 0 80 0 - 3495 - Jan12 ? 00:00:00 > /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m > 1 S 102 6312 1877 0 80 0 - 3495 - Jan12 ? 00:00:00 > /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m > 1 S 102 6319 1877 0 80 0 - 3495 - Jan12 ? 00:00:00 > /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m > 1 S 102 6365 1877 0 80 0 - 3495 - Jan12 ? 00:00:00 > /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m > 1 S 102 6382 1877 0 80 0 - 3495 - Jan12 ? 00:00:00 > /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m > 1 S 102 6815 1877 0 80 0 - 3495 - Jan12 ? 00:00:00 > /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m > 1 S 102 7095 1877 0 80 0 - 3495 - Jan12 ? 00:00:00 > /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m > 1 S 102 7099 1877 0 80 0 - 3495 - Jan12 ? 00:00:00 > /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m > 1 S 102 7100 1877 0 80 0 - 3495 - Jan12 ? 00:00:00 > /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m > 1 S 102 7101 1877 0 80 0 - 3495 - Jan12 ? 00:00:00 > /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m > 1 S 102 7913 1877 0 80 0 - 3495 - 00:47 ? 00:00:00 > /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m > 1 S 102 7917 1877 0 80 0 - 3495 - 00:48 ? 00:00:00 > /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m > 1 S 102 7918 1877 0 80 0 - 3495 - 00:48 ? 00:00:00 > /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m > 1 S 102 7919 1877 0 80 0 - 3495 - 00:48 ? 00:00:00 > /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m > 1 S 102 9351 1877 0 80 0 - 3495 - 04:47 ? 00:00:00 > /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m > 1 S 102 9354 1877 0 80 0 - 3495 - 04:48 ? 00:00:00 > /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m > 1 S 102 9517 1877 0 80 0 - 3495 - 05:12 ? 00:00:00 > /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m > 1 S 102 9520 1877 0 80 0 - 3495 - 05:12 ? 00:00:00 > /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m > 1 S 102 9521 1877 0 80 0 - 3495 - 05:12 ? 00:00:00 > /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m > 1 S 102 9527 1877 0 80 0 - 3495 - 05:14 ? 00:00:00 > /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m > 0 S root 27157 27079 0 80 0 - 546 - 08:58 pts/0 00:00:00 > grep exim > > > > > "Johann Spies" <jspies at sun.ac.za> wrote: >> On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 10:35:08AM +0000, Gerard Hooton wrote: >>> Thanks Johann for you reply, >>> My understanding is that for each connection a new exim4 process is > started. >>> When the connection is dropped (completed the delivery of a message to > the >>> server for example) then >>> that process should die ?? It would appear that on my system the process >>> remains after the connection drops. >>> Is my understanding on this correct? >> >> You will see separate processes of exim like this: >> >> 2287 ? S 0:00 \_ /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q1m >> 2289 ? S 0:00 \_ /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q1m >> 2291 ? S 0:00 \_ /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q1m >> 2296 ttyp2 S+ 0:00 | \_ grep exim >> 29446 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -Mc 1LMLKK-0007es-NQ >> 30092 ? S 0:00 \_ /usr/sbin/exim4 -Mc 1LMLKK-0007es-NQ >> 2147 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -Mc 1LMLP9-0000YV-Ma >> 2150 ? S 0:00 \_ /usr/sbin/exim4 -Mc 1LMLP9-0000YV-Ma >> >> The ones with the -bd -q1m are the daemons. The others are instances >> handling specific messages. You can see what exim is doing running >> ''exiwhat''. >> >>> >>> Also, where do specify how many connections I want to allow? >>> I have split config files on my debian server. >> >> Search Exim''s spec.txt.gz for smtp_accept_max and you will find your >> answers. >> >> Regards >> Johann >> >> -- >> Johann Spies Telefoon: 021-808 4036 >> Informasietegnologie, Universiteit van Stellenbosch >> >> "For the LORD is good; his mercy is everlasting; and >> his truth endureth to all generations." >> Psalms 100:5 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pkg-exim4-users mailing list >> Pkg-exim4-users at lists.alioth.debian.org >> http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-exim4-users >> > > -- > Gerard Hooton > > > Systems Administrator > > > Blarney Boy''s National School, > > > Blarney. > > > Co. Cork > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pkg-exim4-users mailing list > Pkg-exim4-users at lists.alioth.debian.org > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-exim4-users >
I have the following : scoil:~# ps -elf |grep spam |grep -v grep 1 S root 2212 1 0 80 0 - 7706 - Jan11 ? 00:01:29 /usr/sbin/spamd --create-prefs --max-children 5 --helper-home-dir -d --pidfile=/var/run/spamd.pid 5 S root 2575 2212 0 80 0 - 9593 - Jan12 ? 00:05:37 spamd child 5 S root 2721 2212 0 80 0 - 9590 - Jan11 ? 00:09:47 spamd child scoil:~# ps -elf |grep clam |grep -v grep 1 S clamav 2418 1 0 80 0 - 47574 - Jan11 ? 00:01:09 /usr/sbin/clamd 1 S clamav 2512 1 0 80 0 - 786 - Jan11 ? 00:00:02 /usr/bin/freshclam -d --quiet Also, I have sa-exim installed Thanks //Ger "Johann Spies" <jspies at sun.ac.za> wrote:> On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 09:00:53AM +0000, Gerard Hooton wrote: >> when I run exiwhat I get :- >> >> scoil:~# exiwhat >> 1877 daemon: -q30m, listening for SMTP on [87.33.113.4]:25 > > Which shows exim is not doing much at the moment. > >> When I dp ps I get :- > > too many instances of the daemon especially when it is apparently not > handling any messages. > > I am not sure why but that was not ther reason for your original ''too > many connections'' message. > > As far as I know exim it should kill the idle sub-processes. > > Do you use any other processes that exim may be waiting for to finish > like virus or spam scanning? > > Regards > Johann > > -- > Johann Spies Telefoon: 021-808 4036 > Informasietegnologie, Universiteit van Stellenbosch > > "Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed > lest he fall." I Corinthians 10:12 > > _______________________________________________ > Pkg-exim4-users mailing list > Pkg-exim4-users at lists.alioth.debian.org > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-exim4-users >-- Gerard Hooton Systems Administrator Blarney Boy''s National School, Blarney. Co. Cork
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 09:40:57AM +0000, Gerard Hooton wrote:> scoil:~# ps -elf |grep spam |grep -v grepYou can do this with # ps -elf | grep [s]pam and there is no need for ''grep -v grep'' I don''t have the answers but if it were my server I would investigate the logs of both clam and spamassassin to see whether there are any problems. Also restart your exim and see whether this happens again. On the other hand if it does not burden your server to have a few idle exim daemons on it, just ignore it. Regards Johann -- Johann Spies Telefoon: 021-808 4036 Informasietegnologie, Universiteit van Stellenbosch "Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall." I Corinthians 10:12
Thanks Johann, If it was just a few idle exim daemons that would be fine. But the number grows day by day. I will take a look at the spamassassin logs, what do I look for? //Ger "Johann Spies" <jspies at sun.ac.za> wrote:> On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 09:40:57AM +0000, Gerard Hooton wrote: > >> scoil:~# ps -elf |grep spam |grep -v grep > > You can do this with > > # ps -elf | grep [s]pam > > and there is no need for ''grep -v grep'' > > > I don''t have the answers but if it were my server I would investigate > the logs of both clam and spamassassin to see whether there are any > problems. > > Also restart your exim and see whether this happens again. > > On the other hand if it does not burden your server to have a few idle > exim daemons on it, just ignore it. > > Regards > Johann > > -- > Johann Spies Telefoon: 021-808 4036 > Informasietegnologie, Universiteit van Stellenbosch > > "Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed > lest he fall." I Corinthians 10:12 > > _______________________________________________ > Pkg-exim4-users mailing list > Pkg-exim4-users at lists.alioth.debian.org > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-exim4-users >-- Gerard Hooton Systems Administrator Blarney Boy''s National School, Blarney. Co. Cork
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 10:25:58AM +0000, Gerard Hooton wrote:> If it was just a few idle exim daemons that would be fine. > But the number grows day by day. I will take a look at the > spamassassin logs, what do I look for?I would look for signs of timeouts, failure to scan etc. Also check exim''s paniclogs. If you cannot solve this problem with help from this list, I would suggest asking a question on the exim-user mailing list. Regards Johann -- Johann Spies Telefoon: 021-808 4036 Informasietegnologie, Universiteit van Stellenbosch "Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall." I Corinthians 10:12