Hi, I''ve used http://koivi.com/exim4-config/ to configure Exim, everything works fine but I''ve just found: " Installing and configuring Exim 4 on Debian. <http://koivi.com/exim4-config/> This document gives advice how to configure spamassassin, clamav and some implementation of "virtual domains". Please note that "virtual" is a very overused term and you might think of "virtual domains" as something different than the document''s author might think. Additionally, the documentation uses exim''s built-in content scanning interface to link to clamav, but uses sa-exim for spamassassin integration. This is double work since exim''s built-in content scanning can link to spamassassin as well." in PkgExim4UserFAQ ( http://wiki.debian.org/PkgExim4UserFAQ#head-143dbe79ffa3848284fbd0b0a2bb78dae3d75a18 ). So, what is the right way to configure Exim and spamassassin? Or, may be, clamav too. Thank you in advance. Best regards, Yuriy Padlyak
Marc Haber
2006-Oct-11 14:02 UTC
[Pkg-exim4-users] FAQ related question (Exim+spamassassin)
On Wed, Oct 11, 2006 at 04:57:01PM +0300, Yura wrote:> So, what is the right way to configure Exim and spamassassin? Or, may > be, clamav too.There is more than one way to do it, but I find the way described in spec.txt chapter 40 the most comfortable. It leaves some wishes open, but it works fine if it flexibility is enough for you. There are also a couple of helpful documents in the Upstream wiki. Greetings Marc -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marc Haber | "I don''t trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany | lose things." Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 621 72739834 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt | Fax: *49 621 72739835
Christian Schmidt
2006-Oct-11 14:44 UTC
[Pkg-exim4-users] FAQ related question (Exim+spamassassin)
Hello Yura, Yura, 11.10.2006 (d.m.y):> So, what is the right way to configure Exim and spamassassin? Or, may > be, clamav too.Disclaimer: Please don''t understand this as a "rant". The "right way" is the way that fits your needs. There are several means of using exim together with SpamAssassin and ClamAV, and _you_ have to choose the one that _you_ want to live with. If you want your system to do the job only with exim, SpamAssassin and ClamAV, this solution (scanning is done the smtp_data ACL) might be the right one for you. But it''s you who has to decide... Gruss/Regards, Christian Schmidt -- Der Stre? von heute ist die gute alte Zeit von ?bermorgen. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature Url : http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-exim4-users/attachments/20061011/a2375052/attachment.pgp
Chris Purves
2006-Oct-11 17:20 UTC
[Pkg-exim4-users] FAQ related question (Exim+spamassassin)
Yura wrote:> > So, what is the right way to configure Exim and spamassassin? Or, may > be, clamav too. >My setup uses sa-exim and calls clamav directly (very similar to http://koivi.com/exim4-config/) As far as integrating spamassassin with exim, using either exim''s built in acl or sa-exim allow you to reject spam at smtp. The main difference (as far as I know) is that exim will not allow spamassassin to add headers, or modify the message in any way, requiring you to set that up yourself. Sa-exim will let you make use of spamassassin''s built-in header reports and message rewriting features and also includes some other features. And of course, sa-exim is much easier to set up. The main thing you want for proper integration with exim is to be able to reject high-scoring mails which both options allow, so either way is the right way. -- Chris
Ross Boylan
2006-Oct-11 21:59 UTC
[Pkg-exim4-users] FAQ related question (Exim+spamassassin)
On Wed, Oct 11, 2006 at 04:57:01PM +0300, Yura wrote:> Hi, > > I''ve used http://koivi.com/exim4-config/ to configure Exim, everything > works fine but I''ve just found: > " Installing and configuring Exim 4 on Debian. > <http://koivi.com/exim4-config/> This document gives advice how to > configure spamassassin, clamav and some implementation of "virtual > domains". Please note that "virtual" is a very overused term and you > might think of "virtual domains" as something different than the > document''s author might think. Additionally, the documentation uses > exim''s built-in content scanning interface to link to clamav, but uses > sa-exim for spamassassin integration. This is double work since exim''s > built-in content scanning can link to spamassassin as well." in > PkgExim4UserFAQ ( > http://wiki.debian.org/PkgExim4UserFAQ#head-143dbe79ffa3848284fbd0b0a2bb78dae3d75a18 > ). > > So, what is the right way to configure Exim and spamassassin? Or, may > be, clamav too. >It sounds as if that configuration may be something you''re using instead of the one provided in the exim4-config package. But if you''re using the latter, there is a spot commented in the config for dropping in your content scanner. I think any kind of content scanning requires exim4-deamon-heavy (unless you go with sa-exim and don''t use a virus scanner). Ross Boylan
Marc Haber
2006-Oct-20 10:35 UTC
[Pkg-exim4-users] FAQ related question (Exim+spamassassin)
On Wed, Oct 11, 2006 at 11:22:06AM -0600, Chris Purves wrote:> And of course, sa-exim is much easier to set up. The main thing you > want for proper integration with exim is to be able to reject > high-scoring mails which both options allow, so either way is the right way.sa-exim has been orphaned in early 2006, nobody seems to take care of it in Debian. Additionally, there does not seem to be sa-exim knowledge on this list. I''d like to continue recommending to use exim''s built-in content filter. Greetings Marc -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marc Haber | "I don''t trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany | lose things." Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 621 72739834 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt | Fax: *49 621 72739835
Chris Purves
2006-Oct-20 17:38 UTC
[Pkg-exim4-users] FAQ related question (Exim+spamassassin)
Marc Haber wrote:> On Wed, Oct 11, 2006 at 11:22:06AM -0600, Chris Purves wrote: >> And of course, sa-exim is much easier to set up. The main thing you >> want for proper integration with exim is to be able to reject >> high-scoring mails which both options allow, so either way is the right way. > > sa-exim has been orphaned in early 2006, nobody seems to take care of > it in Debian. Additionally, there does not seem to be sa-exim > knowledge on this list. > > I''d like to continue recommending to use exim''s built-in content filter. >I hadn''t realised that the package was orphaned. Considering that it definitely makes more sense to use exim''s built-in SA integration if you''re starting out. -- Chris
Magnus Holmgren
2006-Dec-03 03:35 UTC
[Pkg-exim4-users] FAQ related question (Exim+spamassassin)
On Friday 20 October 2006 12:35, Marc Haber wrote:> On Wed, Oct 11, 2006 at 11:22:06AM -0600, Chris Purves wrote: > > And of course, sa-exim is much easier to set up. The main thing you > > want for proper integration with exim is to be able to reject > > high-scoring mails which both options allow, so either way is the right > > way. > > sa-exim has been orphaned in early 2006, nobody seems to take care of > it in Debian. Additionally, there does not seem to be sa-exim > knowledge on this list.Somebody is taking care of it now. :-) I hope you''re satisfied with the resolution of #378732. -- Magnus Holmgren holmgren@lysator.liu.se (No Cc of list mail needed, thanks) "Exim is better at being younger, whereas sendmail is better for Scrabble (50 point bonus for clearing your rack)" -- Dave Evans -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-exim4-users/attachments/20061203/68339879/attachment.pgp
Marc Haber
2006-Dec-03 11:16 UTC
[Pkg-exim4-users] FAQ related question (Exim+spamassassin)
On Sun, Dec 03, 2006 at 03:15:36AM +0100, Magnus Holmgren wrote:> On Friday 20 October 2006 12:35, Marc Haber wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 11, 2006 at 11:22:06AM -0600, Chris Purves wrote: > > > And of course, sa-exim is much easier to set up. The main thing you > > > want for proper integration with exim is to be able to reject > > > high-scoring mails which both options allow, so either way is the right > > > way. > > > > sa-exim has been orphaned in early 2006, nobody seems to take care of > > it in Debian. Additionally, there does not seem to be sa-exim > > knowledge on this list. > > Somebody is taking care of it now. :-)Not only somebody, but somebody with good knowledge. Thanks for caring.> I hope you''re satisfied with the resolution of #378732.Very. Thanks again. Greetings Marc -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marc Haber | "I don''t trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany | lose things." Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 621 72739834 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt | Fax: *49 621 72739835